To only just realise it was Peter Andre in the wrong not Katie P!

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This is a random thread..if you arent interested in Katie and Peter please dont bother reading...
Just had a binge watch of old episodes of Americas Next top model on youtube and it showed me Katie and Peter stateside - their opd documentary..I used to watch it and love them as a couple together. Was gutted when they split but like everyone else at the time I remember thinking how awful Katie was and how she was in the wrong during that infamous massive row they had in that shop in LA.
It pops back up and so I watch it again, near in mind this is after years of me seeing ir. And cant believe it! Its like a brand new argument - completely saw this in a different way.
Pete was the onein the wrong, not Katie. In fact he was awful, actually abusive? Swearing at her calling her a f*king b**ch, "a cow", "you think youre gonna get away with it?"
Bleeding hell, if this isnt abusive I dont know what is! Im more in shock because I remember all the stick KP got, the hate campaign and the "team Pete" . He deserves a medal and all that bollocks.
It just doesnt make sense. How can anyone see it for what itnwas? In fact watching it again, KP hardly spoke..it was all Pete winding her uo, qlmost goading her and then blasting her when she bit back at him..Im just really shocked I guess....😶 makes you wonder how things can get so easily misrepresented.
What does everyone think?

I’m not sure about this, although it’s too hard to really comment on. She has set no boundaries with food and allows him and encourages him to eat a truly terrible diet. It’s obvious she really loves him and they are very close but I question some of the choices around harvey over the years. Calling at least 4 men daddy and putting herself in situations where she could go to prison, and Harvey would be without her? That’s what I really don’t understand

On Peter’s reality show with Emily there was an episode where they are both with the kids and she says it’s nice to have him doing stuff as usually she is on her own doing it all. Thought that was strange and doesn’t fit with the narrative he tries to run. It’s always struck me as a very strange relationship. I mean surely she has friends her own age - they met when she was at uni - and wouldn’t he stick out as middle aged compared to them and a bit cheesy? It seems v odd.

@TruJay

”she’s a bloody good mum”

You must have a very low bar. She’s a very troubled woman who consistently makes very poor choices and that has greatly affected her ability to parent (as agreed by the courts and SS). Peter Andre was not husband of the year by any stretch but that doesn’t automatically make her an angel.

I've seen this before and pretty sure that video of them singing without the auto tune is a spoof - they've deliberately used someone singing out of tune and put it on to make it sound like KP (or so my DS tells me!)

Do you have experience of autism and Prader-Willi syndrome, particularly how they affect eating?

i haven’t followed this much at all but did he do well in the divorce? It’s actually hard to earn the lifestyle he has - private schools (x4), top cars, huge house which must need gardeners and cleaners at a minimum, contribution to street security. I’d say £500k+ a year to maintain that lifestyle. He was popular but never stratospheric, tours barely break even..
To me it looks like he got a great divorce deal and had help in investing it wisely. It also seemed to be the start of her financial worries.

I recall thinking how abusive PA was at the time the show was aired. I remember thinking that in other series she had seemed to not like him much but then in the last series the tables turned and he seemed to despise her.

I also remember in one show he picked a row with her right before she was due to go on live TV and there then joint manager Claire saying to her that he always did that, ie caused an argument to upset her before a TV appearance.

I think KP is a mess and her own worst enemy. Wasn’t she sexually abused as a child? It strikes me that she is desperate to be loved but can only see that she has any value because of her sexuality.

She actually hands him entire cakes to eat by himself. There is a difference between managing a disorder that has an insatiable appetite and behavioural difficulties and filming content for your brand giving them a family sized cake to eat, or a double sized portion of chips. Surely the first stage of managing such a condition is managing their caloric intake and avoiding sugary, high fat foods?

IMO Peter Andre is only beaten by Phillip Schofield in the PR stakes. Anything to portray the perfect image. I don't think KP could live up to that perfection and so she was made to look like the bad one and then cut out - typical narc behaviour.

I am no Katie fan, but from the very, very start, I thought all the "I love Katie, but I don't love Jordan" bollocks = "I love you when you act the way I want you to".

Never liked him.

I think he’s a highly unpleasant individual and she’s an extremely vulnerable (although not less unpleasant) woman. But unfortunately because of her vulnerability these very unpleasant men will always seek her out.

What’s weird is that I grew up in and out of care and living in bad areas and I knew lots of women just like Katie Price. Chaotic, vulnerable, loads of bad relationships, social services involvement. And they were massively looked down in like the scum of the earth despite actually just being vulnerable women where there was little real help available. And yet someone thought it was a good idea to give her a TV show so the whole world could say she was awful/chavvy/the devil in human skin.

I don't particularly like KP but I've always thought that PA isnt as sweet and nice as he likes to portray. Its a facade he hides behind.

And unfortunately I don’t think she’s a great mum. I do think she loves her kids but in reality love isn’t enough. Being a good mum (or dad) means putting your kids first always and dealing with your own issues with a fierce determination so they don’t impact your kids.

Of course Mental Health issue can impact your understanding of the law?

I think they were both awful to each other

but KP and her desire to be in the public eye comes before everything. There is no excusing some of her behaviour and certainly not that she has mh issues it may drive some of her behaviour but she doesn’t take responsibility

any attention is good attention for KP and where is she now oh on holiday with yet another man who is disruptive to her children

I always thought he was a slimy git, even before they broke up he set off my creep alert. I’m not a fan of her either.

But it does seem like the general public need to declare one person the “bad one” and one the “good one”. I mean just look at the Amber Heard thing. Saying “it seems like both of these people suck and were terrible to each other” isn’t as exciting as having an angel and an evil monster out to ruin them.

So she's basically picked the new fella,all her kids have gone to live with their fathers.
And Harvey it seems has been shipped to residential care.

I loved her in the Jungle,she really showed people the real her.

Then fucked it up by picking crap men over and over again.

She's been done for harassing some exes gf.
I think it's time there's an intervention on her behalf,as it's not going to end well for her.

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Well, she absolutely can't. I don't think you need to be a trained professional to hear how bad that is!

He's not brilliant but he's passable.

Sound engineers did a good job.

she has a team of lawyers

her mh issues should never be used an excuse she is able to take on responsibility for her actions she chooses not to

Peter Andre is a prick for sure, but as far as Katie’s behaviour goes it’s always, always someone else’s fault. Her youngest daughters school has a restraining order against her as she was screaming cunt and threatening their stepmother in front of all of the children - and it was by no means an isolated incident.
’Bloody good mum’ indeed.

Agreed @Elfblossom

i absolutely identify her vulnerability if you think of Kerry Katona, I have always had a huge amount of empathy for her, she’s had a terrible childhood and is very vulnerable and was exploited. Kerry chose the path of children and sobriety and seems to still be chaotic, but has her priorities set on her kids ultimately and is open and honest. Kp is an integral part of her own toxic game, playing the media and exes it’s all so extremely toxic. I do believe many people have tried to help her she always rejects it. Now she’s on a path of self destruction

Katie Price is certainly no mother! She has only access 1 day a week to her youngest kids for two hours. After the alleged slapgate her current squeeze is not allowed around the youngest children. Harvey is in residential the best place for him. She parades him around nightclubs for a 6k fee!
She's a convicted criminal. Having many driving offences, in court again next week for another. Proven in court to have broken her restraining order against her ex husbands partner. Has a revenge porn conviction for another ex husband.

She's one seriously disturbing individual, enabled by her family.

Someone I know did some ghost writing for KP. She expected to loathe KP and thought PA was fine. After many hours of contact over the months she found herself liking KP but absolutely loathing PA and feeling he was not a very nice person at all.

I has the exact same thought a couple of months ago.
A random episode was on, god knows what channel and I watched it.
I used to watch it years ago but this time saw it differently. He was bloody awful. I couldn't believe the way he was speaking to her and actually said to my partner "I feel like I'm seeing this differently now I'm older". (I'm mid 30's now).

Same with the Newlyweds (with Jessica Simpson and Nick Lachey! 🤣).

Some of you probably don't know what this is but I used to love that programme. And I see that differently now too, because he was a disgrace the way he treated her.