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To only just realise it was Peter Andre in the wrong not Katie P!

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Macbeth8 · 30/06/2022 23:40

This is a random thread..if you arent interested in Katie and Peter please dont bother reading...
Just had a binge watch of old episodes of Americas Next top model on youtube and it showed me Katie and Peter stateside - their opd documentary..I used to watch it and love them as a couple together. Was gutted when they split but like everyone else at the time I remember thinking how awful Katie was and how she was in the wrong during that infamous massive row they had in that shop in LA.
It pops back up and so I watch it again, near in mind this is after years of me seeing ir. And cant believe it! Its like a brand new argument - completely saw this in a different way.
Pete was the onein the wrong, not Katie. In fact he was awful, actually abusive? Swearing at her calling her a f*king b**ch, "a cow", "you think youre gonna get away with it?"
Bleeding hell, if this isnt abusive I dont know what is! Im more in shock because I remember all the stick KP got, the hate campaign and the "team Pete" . He deserves a medal and all that bollocks.
It just doesnt make sense. How can anyone see it for what itnwas? In fact watching it again, KP hardly spoke..it was all Pete winding her uo, qlmost goading her and then blasting her when she bit back at him..Im just really shocked I guess....😶 makes you wonder how things can get so easily misrepresented.
What does everyone think?

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EmeraldShamrock1 · 04/07/2022 01:18

How in heaven did she lose all her money, she was marketed everywhere early 2000's.

Lagertha6 · 04/07/2022 01:25

PA is utterly hideous inside.

Tiani4 · 04/07/2022 02:59

Macbeth8 · 04/07/2022 00:20

How is pointing out that it was Peter being abusive and not Katie in that particular clip ruining his reputation?
This was years and years ago thats why I simply posted about it. How perceptions can change.
At the time that I was aired I was 19 with not much life experience

Its fact. He was abusive in that clip..Ive rewatched it again and still have that opinion. I dont know anyone cannot..hes a carbon copy of my dp in that scene whos a abusive and narcissistic.
Other clips that have been posted also show him in this way too.

My actual narrative?
I dont dislike Peter and I dont dislike Katie. Fact.
I follow both of them on Instagram as I think they're interesting people.
They just were obviously a toxic couple.

And sorry I meant I can't recall Katie ever putting him down lookswise. If thats the case please link me?
I always remember her commenting he was gorgeous? Yeah she made digs about him and rolled eyes when he spoke but cant recall her saying anything derogative about his looks?

I agree

I didn't see the same level of abuse from KP to PA

How did we miss it? Yeah she was stroppy but now I see it as exasperation and resignation to ongoing emotional DA abuse from PA

persianmafia · 04/07/2022 06:31

but cant recall her saying anything derogative about his looks

She told the press he looked like a "fat sweaty freak" on their wedding day and often referred to him as the "fat greek".

Now imagine the reaction if a guy had said that about his ex.......

Trixiefirecracker · 04/07/2022 07:08

It appears KP is too busy on holiday to be at home to celebrate her child’s 15th birthday. Can see where her priorities lie.

RaleighDurham · 04/07/2022 07:58

Perhaps she didn't know it was her birthday? After all, she is on film as having to google the dates of the youngest two.
Great mum.

PixieAndProsecco · 04/07/2022 13:25

This thread is another classic example of hypocrisy.

Katie was the more well-known of the two with a traumatic background, addiction and mental health issues.
Pete was the lesser known, but known, who put her down, was verbally and emotionally abusive etc and she eventually retorted back.

Pete is the demon and it's poor Katie, despite everything she has done since.

Flip the genders on their heads and you have Johnny and Amber.
Johnny is the more well known of the two with a traumatic background, addiction and mental health troubles.
Amber is the lesser known who is verbally and emotionally abusive, pushing their partner until they retaliate.

Yet in this example Johnny was the devil because he was a man, despite him winning his court case and proving himself.

Katie is not a victim yet gets support. Johnny is a victim and gets hated.

Trixiefirecracker · 04/07/2022 14:22

@PixieAndProsecco what? For starters I knew who Peter Andre was, he had a massive hit and was everywhere for a time. Katie Price was just on page 3, as far as I was aware and didn’t register in my world at all. I would have said PA was the famous one. I don’t think you can compare the two to Jonny and Amber, that’s a whole different level.

RaleighDurham · 04/07/2022 15:29

How is it hypocrisy if I don't know anything, and care even less about Johnny Depp and Amber Heard?
Also, at least Peter Andre has a modicum of musical talent, whereas Katie became infamous for getting her tits out and behaving outrageously.
Who is more deserving of modern-day fame out of the two of them?

fairycakes1234 · 04/07/2022 16:55

Dont know anything about PA but lost all respect for Katie price when she was high on drugs and crashed a car, where was her kids? She could have killed someone, she's a disgusting human being and doesnt deserve to have her kids.

RaleighDurham · 04/07/2022 23:57

I believe that her kids live with their fathers full-time and that she has access to the younger ones for a couple of hours once a week, when she's not abroad somewhere. Junior doesn't see her at all, I don't think, and Princess only rarely. Harvey is in full-time residential care, year-round.
But yes, you would have hoped that the thought of them might have made her think twice about getting in that car, but there are local reports that she drives around quite often, despite being banned.

lljkk · 05/07/2022 02:48

I don't actually understand who PA is (other than KP's ex).

Anyway, can someone link to story from credible source about KP losing custody of her kids? I can only find stories about her sharing custody, about her kids sometimes staying at their dad's when KP was sorting her life out. But not "social services refuse to let her see her kids" more than a few hours story.

Mail 2022 story about her car crash & boyfriend being violent, I suppose, followed by charges dropped.

ReallyReallyReallyAm · 05/07/2022 06:10

Anybody remember when PA claimed to have written a song in 'the jungle' when he had actually released it years earlier?!

Hazy on the details but I was a massive PA fan back in the day. Met him once, he told me I was beautifulGrin
Then he claimed to of written a 'new' song & I was saying 'No he didn't! I heard him singing that years ago! He's not telling the truth!' (Then it all came out that he was lying)

As for this thread, it reminds me of JD & AH too, in that, KP might be a massive pain in the arse sometimes, nasty to PA & makes massively bad choices. REALLY bad choices since they split. All true.

None of that means that PA wasn't awful to her too.

Not sure about the 'It was years ago' comments either. Does a leopard change his spots? I suppose until somebody tells us different then we will have to believe that PA has change his spots...

ReallyReallyReallyAm · 05/07/2022 06:16

So I can't do links but there's a funny segment on 'Digital spy' titled 'Peters Insania amnesia' if anybody caresGrin

ItsSnowJokes · 05/07/2022 06:38

lljkk · 05/07/2022 02:48

I don't actually understand who PA is (other than KP's ex).

Anyway, can someone link to story from credible source about KP losing custody of her kids? I can only find stories about her sharing custody, about her kids sometimes staying at their dad's when KP was sorting her life out. But not "social services refuse to let her see her kids" more than a few hours story.

Mail 2022 story about her car crash & boyfriend being violent, I suppose, followed by charges dropped.

KP said it herself in an insta rant and then deleted it about 2 hours later. She has then every Wednesday for a supervised 2 hours.

Also it's quite obvious as she only posts new pictures of the kids on a Wednesday or Thursday, other than that she just puts up old pictures. You will notice that the latest boyfriend is never around any of the kids and wasn't allowed at the sisters wedding recently.

Macbeth8 · 05/07/2022 07:00

Yeah that's right. Her current squeeze Carl Woods is never ever seen around her kids anymore. They were always filming together especially lockdown.
There are a few clips online - predominantly YouTube.
But I get the gist Junior didn't really like Carl? Just from the clips I have seen he hardly talks to him. There's one snippet of them all celebrating Carl's Birthday, (thats all Katie's kids.))) They are singing happy birthday but Junior isnt.
He just looks bored and fed up.
Carl doesnt seem a good guy at all. I also think he seems abusive..she sticks to him like glue, young and good-looking and probably believes she can't do any better. Just like Peter once said to her "who's going to want a woman with 3 kids?" Just another example of Peter being abusive!
Absolutely vile..I am 99% her insecurities have stemmed from him.

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Trixiefirecracker · 05/07/2022 07:52

‘Absolutely vile..I am 99% her insecurities have stemmed from him’
…nothing to do with her being sexually abused and raped as a child or her early career modelling for page 3 and her constant obsession with plastic surgery then? Sounds to me she was already damaged and as a result keeps making very bad choices.

EmeraldShamrock1 · 05/07/2022 08:31

What is happening with the allegations against Ciaran too? KP reported him for sexually abusing a minor, yet he has custody of the smaller DC.

TheDuchessOfMN · 05/07/2022 08:46

I watched some of the videos. You don’t need a TikTok account, I just googled “Peter Andre abusive Katie Price TikTok” or something, and they all came up.

I never liked him anyway, but I was pretty shocked. He is abusive, angry, full of hatred for her. Says utterly vile things to her and is doing his very best to get her to retaliate. He actually seems to be enjoying doing it to her, almost walking around circling her.
She does bite back at one point and insults his singing career, and he gets even angrier, to the point that it almost felt unsafe for her.

I never bought his nice guy image anyway, but it’s still shocking to see him in such a light. His PR team have done a damn good job on him over the years.

I’m not a fan of KP now, her behaviour is inexcusable but I can see how her past relationships will have contributed to what has happened to her.

ItsSnowJokes · 05/07/2022 09:04

EmeraldShamrock1 · 05/07/2022 08:31

What is happening with the allegations against Ciaran too? KP reported him for sexually abusing a minor, yet he has custody of the smaller DC.

He turned up voluntarily at the police station and nothing has been heard since. It seems it was probably just a vile rant from KP as she was angry about custody and accused Keiran and his fiance of baiting her on social media. KP cares not what this does to her children, and as SS are heavily involved I am sure custody would have been removed from Keiran if their were any truth to the allegations.

Also let it be known that it was KP that reported it to the police and not the alleged victim.

lljkk · 05/07/2022 09:09

KP said it herself in an insta rant

Not just in 2016?
And in a reborn account , after 2020.
She must have a good company burying news stories for her from search engines, I can't find anything about her Instagram rants / social-services in last year.

ItsSnowJokes · 05/07/2022 09:40

lljkk · 05/07/2022 09:09

KP said it herself in an insta rant

Not just in 2016?
And in a reborn account , after 2020.
She must have a good company burying news stories for her from search engines, I can't find anything about her Instagram rants / social-services in last year.

Here's one of the rants that she deleted pretty quickly. There were others as well.

To only just realise it was Peter Andre in the wrong not Katie P!
lljkk · 05/07/2022 09:52

Found a Sun Story from Oct 2021 saying KH had full custody.

Poor kids. No wonder someone is paying firms to bury story on Internet.

Noglassjustthebottleandastraw · 05/07/2022 13:04

Wonder what ever happened to Alex Reid. I had forgotten about him until this thread.

burnoutbabe · 05/07/2022 13:26

Noglassjustthebottleandastraw · 05/07/2022 13:04

Wonder what ever happened to Alex Reid. I had forgotten about him until this thread.

think he was jailed recently for something. I was doing him and Katie P for a defamation exam (and her and PA) and googled where he was now.

(was 8 weeks jail last year for car insurance fraud)