To wonder what we do now that will be frowned upon in 30-40 years time

[Lunar27]

This video is a prime example of how attitudes change. It seems we go just go from stupid to stupid all the time.

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Another example is passive smoking. Obviously stupid and horrible to think we just smoked freely inside, thinking it was fine to breathe in smoke.

Fossil fueled cars will likely be the next as will idling cars outside of schools but I wonder what else we'll be scratching our heads over in future.

We all simply need to eat less.

I think everyone agrees with that.

The question this thread is posing is whether it will be frowned up in 30/40 years.

Gender changing surgery

Really? Post-Covid I’ve seen about 1% people still wearing masks and using hand gel; most hand gel stations on public transport or public places are empty and have fallen out of use. If the unprecedented times of a 2-year pandemic couldn’t change behaviour…

I think it could go either of two ways, become more liberal or more reactionary.

If society continues to become more liberal (which is more likely) then a lot of things we do know will seem outrageous:
-Meat eating
-Fossil fuel use
-Restrictions on relationships with animals
-The age of consent being 16, it will go much lower
-That Russia was allowed 30 years to recover from the collapse of the USSR, leading to a huge, ongoing European war.
-Transphobia, particularly the idea that transpeople cannot compete as the gender of their choosing in sport, or that there are locations or services restricted to people born of a particular sex
-Restrictions on drug use
-The concept that people have to work to earn a living
-Animal ownership (it will be seen as offensive as "owning" a human now)

If society becomes more reactionary, which is less likely but will be inevitable at some point - liberalism is generally combatted with more liberalism, but eventually there will be no further to go:
-Tolerance generally will be seen as outrageous, whether it's racial tolerance, transphilia, homophilia etc - expect laws which annul same-sex marriages
-Abortion
-The fact we allow in thousands of asylum seekers and refugees each year
-Our lack of personal freedom and our aquiescence in allowing our freedoms to be stripped away over the past century or so

On what basis do PPs think pet ownership will be gone in 30-40 years?? Pets are as popular as ever, why is this likely to suddenly change?

Hopefully allowing men to decide to be a woman one day, use female toilets and compete in sport against actual women. Not talking about gender reassignment just the other crap

I don't know if it will become frowned upon but I can think of reasons it might be, at least for meat eating pets - the number of animals that need to be bred and slaughtered to feed them being a big one, both for the animal rights reasons and for the environmental impact - I have seen estimates that a medium sized dog has a bigger carbon footprint that running a SUV.

In 30-40 years everyone are not going to be Angels who live a perfect life. Some of the comments are ridiculous.

I think it could go either of two ways, become more liberal or more reactionary

The left tends to prosper in stable periods and the right in unstable periods. As I think future decades are looking pretty tough I’d lean towards society being far more right leaning in forty years.

I’ve posted this meme before but it stands up to scrutiny I think.

The concept that people have to work to earn a living

Where will money to pay bills come from? Will robots do all the work? Who will oversee the robots?

Restrictions on relationships with animals
I’m tired so I may not be reading this right, but are you saying in 30-40 years bestiality will be cool and we’ll all be frowning on that uptight time when you couldn’t shag a horse? Yet at the same time, in this future liberals want, we won’t own pets? We’ll date them instead?

Sugar, kids eat so much of it, we all do. I'm pretty sure of this one We all know it causes diabetes, and exacerbates many other conditions but it's everywhere.

Oh and people being rude to each other on social media. Seriously.

Tattoos and piercings have been around for as long as humans. I doubt it will be any different in 30 years. There are tattoo parlors everywhere

Plus they harm no one

The age of consent would go much lower? What are you on about????

Well, that's fucking creepy... 🤔

Age of consent is not likely to lower.

I can see the age of consent to marriage rising to 18. This has already been suggested in the news over the last few years.

I agree! I think 18 is the right age for marriage.

That previous poster is quite frightening....

I think you've defined liberalism rather oddly here. Some of the examples you've listed under liberalism are more the trademark of oppressive/dictatorial regimes than liberal ones.

Animal ownership (it will be seen as offensive as "owning" a human now)

Sorry but this is not going to happen.

If society continues to become more liberal (which is more likely) then a lot of things we do know will seem outrageous:
-Meat eating
-Fossil fuel use
-Restrictions on relationships with animals
-The age of consent being 16, it will go much lower
-That Russia was allowed 30 years to recover from the collapse of the USSR, leading to a huge, ongoing European war.
-Transphobia, particularly the idea that transpeople cannot compete as the gender of their choosing in sport, or that there are locations or services restricted to people born of a particular sex
-Restrictions on drug use
-The concept that people have to work to earn a living
-Animal ownership (it will be seen as offensive as "owning" a human now)

What will happen to dogs then? Will they just be wild?

As more information comes out on the development of teenage brains, the age of consent will only rise. 16 year olds are still viewed as children. Safeguarding gets more pronounced every day and will continue to do so. Why would the age of consent drop to the age on the Victorian era when nobody knew anything? Wherever we are on history young teens are still children. Why would they make child sex legal?

We may no longer have free roaming cats. New Zealand wants domestic cats to cease by 2050, various councils in Australia have brought in 12 or 24 hour curfews because of the damage they cause to wildlife. I couldn't bear having a cat that wasn't allowed outside, it would be a sad existence.

How exactly do you propose a solution to this? I think you have a problem.

Hmm, I don’t know if Australia are indicative of popular trends regarding ecosystems. They’re notoriously protective of their habitat and have been for some time. Not many other countries have gone to their extremes.

I have a house cat and know of many other people who do. Though they're mostly pedigree cats rather than moggies. I know of one cross breed cat kept indoors and he seems perfectly happy, lovely cat, large four storey house.