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To wonder what we do now that will be frowned upon in 30-40 years time

559 replies

Lunar27 · 29/06/2022 07:55

This video is a prime example of how attitudes change. It seems we go just go from stupid to stupid all the time.

digg.com/video/this-1967-british-news-report-that-interviewed-drunk-drivers-before-it-became-illegal-is-bonkers

Another example is passive smoking. Obviously stupid and horrible to think we just smoked freely inside, thinking it was fine to breathe in smoke.

Fossil fueled cars will likely be the next as will idling cars outside of schools but I wonder what else we'll be scratching our heads over in future.

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Florenz · 30/06/2022 20:19

I think in 40 years time the world will be a completely different place to how it is today.

FootieMama · 30/06/2022 20:19

Underwired bras
Plastic wrap in everything
Lawns
I think more it is more like a wish list

Comedycook · 30/06/2022 20:29

Not frowned upon but I think future generations will be amazed at organ donation. I think in the future, organs will be made in a lab and done to order. People will be amazed that we had to wait for someone to die and that people had to go on a list in order to get one.

HettyMeg · 30/06/2022 20:42

Screen time for kids - how it shuts them off from conversation etc

ChompChamp · 30/06/2022 20:47

i think all of these things will be addressed (except gun laws in America because they’ll never get any legislation past) and in 40 years time people will look at this stuff and not understand why we allowed it.
I’d be amazed if the US even exists in 40 years. It’s a country on its deathbed. Sadly I’m not sure what replaces it will be an improvement.

BellePeppa · 30/06/2022 20:55

justagirlstandinginfrontofcake · 30/06/2022 16:33

The way we treat the trans community. They're treated in exactly the same way the gay community was 30 years ago. I hope in 30 years time we're much kinder to trans people.

I think people would be kinder now if it wasn’t for the entitled few who think they’re always right and only their feelings and their ‘truth’ matters. Pre-op Trans in women’s spaces and women’s sports are not encouraging warm, kind feelings.

Hillary17 · 30/06/2022 20:57

Allowing children on the internet. Screen time generally… and eating meat.

TheKeatingFive · 30/06/2022 21:02

They're treated in exactly the same way the gay community was 30 years ago.

That's utter hogwash though and a really dishonest argument.

No one in the gay community ever wanted to undermine other people's rights to serve their own. Neither did they seek to deny scientific reality and threaten those questioned that.

So no. Not at all.

ThickCutSteakChips · 30/06/2022 21:09

They're treated in exactly the same way the gay community was 30 years ago.

Were male gay people trying to enter women's sports events 30 years ago?

Were male gay people demanding that they be allowed into women's spaces, including female prisons and refuges, 30 years ago?

Were gay people advocating for teenage gay people to be pumped with powerful drugs that would potentially make them infertile and leave them with lifelong medical issues?

The answer to all of those is, of course, no.

Lockheart · 30/06/2022 21:19

Eating meat isn't about culture or tradition, it's literally in our biology. Homo sapiens is an omnivorous species.The fact that some people make a conscious choice to cut out meat or all animal products does not change our biology.

We have omnivorous teeth. We don't produce cellulase enzymes but we do produce proteases. We need vitamins like B12 (in the natural world found only in animal sources) and vitamin C (found in citrus fruits but also in offal - not many citrus fruits available in prehistoric northern Europe!) to be at our peak of health. There is evidence of hominids actively hunting, not just scavenging, from hundreds of thousands of years ago.

This is not to say that a vegan diet can't be healthy but you can't deny our biology or our evolution.

Andante57 · 30/06/2022 21:19

oh and the kardashians and similar. That’ll be seen as ridiculous

Hutchy in 40 years time will anyone know who the Kardashians were? I doubt my children know of many people who were famous for being famous 40 years ago.

Nesbo · 30/06/2022 21:27

I suspect we’ll still have meat eating but it will be lab produced - basically indistinguishable from what we have now but not requiring live animals.

Fritilleries · 30/06/2022 21:27

Lockheart · 30/06/2022 21:19

Eating meat isn't about culture or tradition, it's literally in our biology. Homo sapiens is an omnivorous species.The fact that some people make a conscious choice to cut out meat or all animal products does not change our biology.

We have omnivorous teeth. We don't produce cellulase enzymes but we do produce proteases. We need vitamins like B12 (in the natural world found only in animal sources) and vitamin C (found in citrus fruits but also in offal - not many citrus fruits available in prehistoric northern Europe!) to be at our peak of health. There is evidence of hominids actively hunting, not just scavenging, from hundreds of thousands of years ago.

This is not to say that a vegan diet can't be healthy but you can't deny our biology or our evolution.

Fair point. But is factory farming animals and then killing them on a huge scale in facilities full of noise, smells and unfamiliar sights ok?

I'm all for eating meat but I wish we had more humane processes. I mean, macerating male chicks at birth? Removing lambs from ewes that vocalise stress? The entire system stinks.

Neverendingdust · 30/06/2022 21:31

We’ll question why we ever thought it a good idea to allow under 12s the ability to access the internet and use devices from such young ages.

Vapig will be responsible for many respiratory issues as teens now start using them so early on, in 40 years they’ll all be in their mid to late 50s with emphysema, COPD and other chronic illnesses as Covid also slowly attacks the lungs over repeated infections.

Factory farming will be seen as medieval.

Our wilful ignorance towards environmental issues when we could have taken decisive action to prevent rising sea levels and other problems will be a wtf were we thinking moment. The youth of 2062 will likely hate the older generation for ruining the planet.

Brexit will have been reversed and again they will think what an odious generation we were.

Lockheart · 30/06/2022 21:40

Fritilleries · 30/06/2022 21:27

Fair point. But is factory farming animals and then killing them on a huge scale in facilities full of noise, smells and unfamiliar sights ok?

I'm all for eating meat but I wish we had more humane processes. I mean, macerating male chicks at birth? Removing lambs from ewes that vocalise stress? The entire system stinks.

I despise factory farming of animals. But people demand affordable meat, eggs etc and they demand them regularly.

I'm not vegetarian or vegan but I try to buy high-welfare meat and eggs which are obviously more expensive I miss my hens, so I don't eat meat every day because I couldn't afford to! I'm also lucky to have a good butcher and come from a farming community.

Noncomplyturkey · 30/06/2022 21:41

Shock that Donald and Boris were in charge of whole countries 😳

YellowSticker · 30/06/2022 21:41

The obsession some have with tattoos. (Another topic on this site about a Gran and a premature tattoo)
The obsession with going to university.
Hopefully we will then have a PM not an overgrown child. We will blush with embarrassment when we look at the present incumbent.

onlythreenow · 30/06/2022 21:45

People will look back at the world today actually eating flesh and tissue of dead animals and be properly and rightly horrified.

The world "today"????? People have been eating meat for millions of years, it's not just a fad of the modern world.

GoodThinkingMax · 30/06/2022 21:49

@rachmultiplemum I think I tend to agree about cities.

I wish we could ban private car ownership. It’s not just the awful pollution of cars@. It’s the swallowing up of so much land - a finite resource - for car parks and roads.

And the denigration of public transport.

Fritilleries · 30/06/2022 21:53

onlythreenow · 30/06/2022 21:45

People will look back at the world today actually eating flesh and tissue of dead animals and be properly and rightly horrified.

The world "today"????? People have been eating meat for millions of years, it's not just a fad of the modern world.

It's disingenuous to ignore the fact that modern meat consumption is nothing like consumption in the past. Early man didn't chow down on cheap chicken or meat produced from animals pumped with hormones.

Reigateforever · 30/06/2022 21:53

Maybe they would be astonished how people did not respect water and also how homes were not well insulated wasting energy.

Wondered of the extravagant lifestyle, living without being water or CO2 rationed.

GoodThinkingMax · 30/06/2022 21:55

ThickCutSteakChips · 30/06/2022 21:09

They're treated in exactly the same way the gay community was 30 years ago.

Were male gay people trying to enter women's sports events 30 years ago?

Were male gay people demanding that they be allowed into women's spaces, including female prisons and refuges, 30 years ago?

Were gay people advocating for teenage gay people to be pumped with powerful drugs that would potentially make them infertile and leave them with lifelong medical issues?

The answer to all of those is, of course, no.

Were gay people trying to ban or minimise marriage?

I think not

Were gay people trying to erase all references to heterosexuality?

I think not

Were gay people insisting our sexuality was “assigned” at birth, rather than innate?

I think not

Were gay people physically intimidating groups of straight people, and committing violent assault on 60 year olds?

I think not

Were gay people raping women in prison?

I think not

OneWildNightWithJBJ · 30/06/2022 22:01

Agree with pp’s saying eating meat.

Also, I hope, we will be horrified at how we tried to make most children fit into the same kinds of mainstream schools, with no thought to their individual needs. Not only that, but criminalising parents if their kids are unable to attend schools not suitable for them and that cause them huge anxiety.

Dancingwithhyenas · 30/06/2022 22:11

How much privacy people gave away - whether that be social media or in data to companies.

Meadowland · 30/06/2022 22:21

How much food we throw away.
Having more than 2 children.