To wonder what we do now that will be frowned upon in 30-40 years time

[Lunar27]

This video is a prime example of how attitudes change. It seems we go just go from stupid to stupid all the time.

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Another example is passive smoking. Obviously stupid and horrible to think we just smoked freely inside, thinking it was fine to breathe in smoke.

Fossil fueled cars will likely be the next as will idling cars outside of schools but I wonder what else we'll be scratching our heads over in future.

Do you eat meat yourself though? As if you do people probably see that differently in the same way smokers don't feel the need to excuse their smoking to others who smoke.

I don't eat a lot of meat as it happens, I never have done. However there is a world of difference between eating less meat and not eating any meat. Surely you can see that the people at pains to tell you how little meat they eat and how awful it is are doing so because you don't eat meat - I would probably say something similar myself if I met you! It doesn't actually mean that they don't enjoy eating meat.

Also, I'm talking about young people in the UK, and not those going into farming, as clearly they wouldn't be the demographic that objected to consuming animal products.

I didn't imagine people were going into farming in a big way in the UK, as it's not known as an agricultural country - but there are many young people from the UK, (as well as many other parts of the world) working on farms in this country.

This is not a thread about the ethics of meat eating by the way, but about what will be frowned upon in 30-40 years time, and anyone who thinks eating meat is one of those things is living in fantasyland and speaking from their heart, not their head.

There is a delegation from my country, including the PM, in Europe at the moment negotiating trade deals for our products - so there must still be a demand for them.

It's just a guess, and maybe I end up looking like the stupid tinfoil hat wearer, but I believe that the use of laser treatment for cosmetic processes will be discovered to be dangerous.

Tattoos particularly sleeve ones.
Also the (earrings?) that make big holes in your earlobes.
Brexit
Boris
The Royal Family
Takeaways/ Fast Food

Having pets like dogs, cats, hamsters, rabbits , birds etc etc

We have 60% pet ownership in this country now. Surely this is unprecedented... And it's a trend that is going nowhere. I do think standards of care would improve though!

Paying thousands of pounds for designer dogs, which is hugely exploitative and results in foul breeding abuse whilst simultaneously healthy dogs are being put to sleep. This seems nuts go me..it’s all very well wanting the latest trend with material goods but it shouldn’t extend to animals too.
large families, each to their own but the world is f&cked and nobody’s genes are that special so something has got to give
over demand for meat which again means horrible cruelty to animals which many atm don’t wants to think about

Single use plastics

Giving children unfettered access to the internet

Allowing ultra processed foods to be sold like they are real foods

Self-ID (for changing birth certificates to a different sex, for example)

Expecting that people from vastly different cultures will integrate seamlessly into new countries happily adopting all the host-country norms and standards

Couldn’t get past the second page. I do hope the future brings less people who seem to know better than me how I should be living my my life.

Jesus you all have painted a joyless grim existence.

Some of this is highly unusual. Someone even wrote lawns. It’s like some posters are just writing what they are intolerant of.

if you want to know what will be frown on in 30-40 years then look at what our teens frown on. As they are the generation who will drive the culture.

so it will be bigotry, intolerance of others, lack of acceptance, anything damaging to the environment,

we will strive for a cleaner more accepting world. It won’t be a car free, meat free trans free lawn free tattoo free pet free takeaway free porn free social media free alcohol free phone free alcohol free air travel free world some folks would love.

Good zoos are institutions of preservation. If we carry on they way we are we will need them more than ever. Amazes me how ignorant people are on the work of them- London Zoo is a good example. We need the zoos.

I agree @Dirtylittleroses this thread is just about ignorance and intolerance.

Well said @Dirtylittleroses, and yes I agree with you about zoos @Bangolads

Keeping people alive with a painful terminal illness for as long as we possibly can....its madness. The sooner voluntary euthanasia is allowed, the better.

Again, you miss my point. Its precisely because the thread is about things being frowned upon as opppse to illegal/no longer done at all that I include eating meat. I'm not for a moment suggesting no one will eat meat, rather that they will do so with a level of shame and embarrassment, as with many smokers now, because most people will consider it unhealthy/ unethical/unsustainable and it will be a guilty pleasure.
The fact that people play down their meat consumption is an indication this attitude is creeping in already. I don't eat pears, but no one has ever tried to minimise or excuse to me the fact that they do!
I'm aware the threads not about ethics. I specifically said my driver for veganism is not ethical, but increasingly people ARE struggling with the ethics of eating meat, and ethics drive behaviour.
For people who love and care for animals, which is very much part of UK culture, eating meat involves a huge level of cognitive dissonance. The increased publicity around the issues, whether you agree with those views or not, is getting harder to ignore.
Do I think no one will eat meat in 40 years? No. They will. Do I think it will be frowned upon like smoking, getting drunk every night, or giving your baby sweets and chicken nuggets? Absolutely.

Hopefully fatshaming - the last ‘ism’ still ok is fatism.

Hopefully social media

I think people are listing things they want to happen rather than things that are likely to happen. Social media is not going to be frowned upon in 30 years. If anything, it will be normal to live your entire life on it.

For people who love and care for animals, which is very much part of UK culture, eating meat involves a huge level of cognitive dissonance. The increased publicity around the issues, whether you agree with those views or not, is getting harder to ignore.

I don't believe loving and caring for animals is exclusive to the UK culture. Whether or not I agree with the views about meat eating is nothing to do with the subject. If you bothered to read the full thread you will see that I am not the only poster who has stated that eating meat is not going to be frowned upon in 30-40 years time.

The fact that people play down their meat consumption is an indication this attitude is creeping in already. I don't eat pears, but no one has ever tried to minimise or excuse to me the fact that they do!

You still don't seem to grasp the idea that people might only be downplaying their meat consumption because you don't eat meat - I doubt they would do it if talking to a meat eater. As for your comment about eating pears, that is just ridiculous!

Do I think it will be frowned upon like smoking, getting drunk every night, or giving your baby sweets and chicken nuggets? Absolutely.

Eating meat can in no way be compared to smoking, or getting drunk every night, or giving babies sweets and chicken nuggets (who the hell does that anyway). Smoking and getting drunk every night are nothing like eating, they are choices - everyone has to eat, and whether you like it or not, many millions of people eat meat and will continue to do so. The only people frowning upon it will be people like you.

Euthanasia has been legal in Belgium for quite some time now, and this isn't the case. It's allowed to shorten severe pain at the end of life and needs to be certified by two doctors. I would definitely use it if it happened to me

Touching things that other people touch... like doors/light switches/touch screens etc. Think the world will become more and more sanitised.

LaDoIceVita · 29/06/2022 08:31
I sincerely hope it will come to be seen as unaccetable that people were kept alive for years with no quality of life and poor care, rather than allowing them an earlier, peaceful and dignified death.

This all sounds a bit Logan's Run!

I think Brexit will frowned upon

And once again....
I don't personally frown on it. I don't eat it for my health. If I thought my health would be better eating meat, I probably would.
We are talking about what theoretical people in 40 years may frown on. Not me now. In 40 years time, even my vegan diet is unlikely to have me in a position to frown on anything, given I'm already 53.
And I didn't say I thought eating meat was like smoking etc, I speculated future people would see it that way, as the thread invited me to.

I think Brexit will frowned upon Only 16% think it is going well now, it is only die hard Brexiteers who still think it was the right thing to do!

People in the west eat far more meat/fish/protein than they require.

if you want to use the foraging idea then put it in context. Meat would have been an occasional part of the human diet. Not a daily thing which it has become for the rich west.

mass production of meat (1 billion chickens in the uk) is polluting and uses incredible amounts of medication and feed. We all simply need to eat less. Once a week would still use those teeth.