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AIBU to think my neighbour has lost the plot.

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ActualMadness · 27/06/2022 20:35

I have name changed for this as having massive problems with my neighbour for various reasons so could be identified. My neighbours are horrible and extremely antisocial but that’s a thread for another time. The man has just come knocking on my door ranting and raving I chose not to answer, so he came to my open kitchen window and started shouting about how we have been constantly racist towards him and his family as well as lots of other accusations and unpleasantness. The reason I think he has lost the plot is that both our families are white British, so putting the fact that nobody in my household is racist to one side for a moment how on earth does he think this is even a possibility. I knew he was crazy but this encounter has cemented it for me, I am just hoping and praying they decide to move soon.

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RJnomore1 · 28/06/2022 13:55

This is a thread written by a UK poster about a UK incident (op I agree you weren’t racist btw). WTF does what racism means elsewhere have to do with this?

My point is that racism as defined by the law the op is resident within refers to nationality as well as colour or ethnic origin. Within UK there are at least four distinct nationalities as well as other ethnic origin (travellers) and it is this possible to be racist to another UK white person. Whatever the law somewhere else states is heehaw to do with this conversation. Anti Irish racism, the example I gave, is alive, well, and legally defined in the country relevant to the topic at hand.

ShetlandPony1 · 28/06/2022 14:18

I would keep complaining to the council, environmental health, police and HA for every single incident.

I used to have the exact same problem. We owned our house and either side where HA. One was lovely but the others were nutters.

In the end we moved as we couldn't take it anymore but I was so sad to be driven out of my beautiful house by them.

A quick google shows some good advice on citizens advice www.citizensadvice.org.uk/housing/problems-where-you-live/complaining-about-your-neighbour/

Meraas · 28/06/2022 14:28

Anti Irish racism, the example I gave, is alive, well, and legally defined in the country relevant to the topic at hand.

Relevant how? OP says she and the neighbour are white British, no one is Irish in the topic at hand.

RJnomore1 · 28/06/2022 14:44

Because anyone born in Northern Ireland is a British citizen. This isn’t hard.

Meraas · 28/06/2022 14:55

RJnomore1 · 28/06/2022 14:44

Because anyone born in Northern Ireland is a British citizen. This isn’t hard.

OP hasn’t said she is in Northern Ireland Confused

CupidStunt22 · 28/06/2022 15:01

RJnomore1 · 28/06/2022 14:44

Because anyone born in Northern Ireland is a British citizen. This isn’t hard.

Anyone born in NI is entitled to be a British citizens. Many are Irish citizens instead.
If you're going to go off on a tangent, at least get the basics right.

carefullycourageous · 28/06/2022 16:19

Buythebag40 · 28/06/2022 13:50

CupidStunt22

Just catching up on the thread and I see some are still trying to make this about race, it would be funny if it wasn't so shockingly obtuse.

I guess the saying "You can't argue with stupid" applies here!

If that was aimed at me, I'm not stupid. I have at no point said the OP has been racist. I also have experience of supporting residents dealing with these type of issues.

What I have said is that the OP is dismissing the racism issue/allegation by saying she thinks he is white British. If he is not white British, it would be better if she dealt with that allegation better.

After all, presumably the OP wants this actually resolved.

carefullycourageous · 28/06/2022 16:25

ActualMadness · 28/06/2022 11:06

@carefullycourageous i get you point, I was just explaining badly that I have not been racist, I have not physically crossed paths with this family for over a year. I set an alarm to peg washing out at 4:30 because that is a safe time to enter my own enclosed garden, I absolutely do not want to have any form of contact with this individual. He is completely unstable and targets every single property in the street not just me. He regularly stand outside people houses shouting abuse and vile accusations, it really is not on.

Thank you - I am glad you do. I do not think you have been racist.

I am concerned that if this person is not white British, and makes these allegations, it could cause you additional problems.

Perhaps it was useful to air it here, as you have seen how that issue can create a side drama. It may create a similar side drama in your HA if he repeats the allegation there.

I would get advice but if it the allegation were put to me I would say something like 'there is no way I have been racist towards this person, firstly I do not know what race they are, secondly I am not racist and thirdly I have actively avoided any interaction.'

I really wish you good luck in pursuing it. It takes persistence but it can work out. I think the key is getting your neighbours together so you are not the only one fighting this. Even if the situation doesn't improve immediately, solidarity helps. Brew

RJnomore1 · 28/06/2022 16:46

The sheer amount of people determined to prove that there is no way you can be racist to another white UK resident and failing is staggering. I’m very sorry op as it’s somewhat detailed your thread but I asked earlier because I wondered if it was still possible he perceived you had somehow slighted him eg anti Irish comment. You are in a pretty awful situation and I hope you get it sorted and follow the good advice on here.

For the benefit of previous posters, the op may not be in Northern Ireland but people from Northern Ireland are allowed to move within the UK they are not told they must not move to England, Scotland etc so your confused little face is rather puzzling.

For our friend with very apt user name, the majority of NI citizens have either UK or dual citizenship. However even if they DONT it does nothing to remove the point that they are still covered by racism legislation and ideology in the UK. If in fact they are Irish citizens it still applies to them just as much so does nothing to defend your idiotic argument. And before you say the op said white UK, I’d defy anyone to tell the difference in accent between two Irish people born in the same street and raised in the same town with different passports.

Meraas · 28/06/2022 17:04

The sheer amount of people determined to prove that there is no way you can be racist to another white UK resident and failing is staggering.

No, what's happened is some people have paid attention to what OP said:

  • she states categorically that she is not racist and nor is anyone else in her household
  • she has not spoken to these people in 13 months
  • she does not answer the door to this man
  • she hangs out her washing at 4.30 to avoid these people
  • she does not leave her house if they are out on their drive
  • if she comes home and they are outside, OP leaves and drives around to avoid him
So your attempts to shoe horn in anti-Irish racism when OP hasn't been racist is making people bemused.
IncompleteSenten · 28/06/2022 17:09

The OP said he has a Liverpudlian accent.
I'm not sure how Ireland is relevant.

CupidStunt22 · 28/06/2022 17:10

The sheer amount of people determined to prove that there is no way you can be racist to another white UK resident and failing is staggering

That's not the point. You can be. But only if you have percieved some difference in them from yourself, perfectly obviously!

Fullofhotcrossbuns · 28/06/2022 17:42

Some people need to have a word themselves as they have derailed this thread instead of helping a victim

moofolk · 28/06/2022 17:52

Have you tried speaking to the wife?

She may be suffering from DV if she can report him and get a restraining order then maybe you can both be free of him.

carefullycourageous · 28/06/2022 20:16

moofolk · 28/06/2022 17:52

Have you tried speaking to the wife?

She may be suffering from DV if she can report him and get a restraining order then maybe you can both be free of him.

Gosh, don't do this! If there is DV, you would be risking the person's physical safety or even worse. You can't ask a wife to take sides against her violent husband.

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