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AIBU to think my neighbour has lost the plot.

140 replies

ActualMadness · 27/06/2022 20:35

I have name changed for this as having massive problems with my neighbour for various reasons so could be identified. My neighbours are horrible and extremely antisocial but that’s a thread for another time. The man has just come knocking on my door ranting and raving I chose not to answer, so he came to my open kitchen window and started shouting about how we have been constantly racist towards him and his family as well as lots of other accusations and unpleasantness. The reason I think he has lost the plot is that both our families are white British, so putting the fact that nobody in my household is racist to one side for a moment how on earth does he think this is even a possibility. I knew he was crazy but this encounter has cemented it for me, I am just hoping and praying they decide to move soon.

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harriethoyle · 27/06/2022 21:19

@ActualMadness seeing you have ring footage I would also report to the police.

dropthevipers · 27/06/2022 21:19

if it's as described (and I have no reason to suppose otherwise) this guy sounds like a complete nutjob. If he reliably kicks off then gathering filmed evidence should be easy enough.

WishILivedInThrushGreen · 27/06/2022 21:22

Ah... you should have mentioned this before.

Then you need to keep a log of every incident and keep reporting, if necessary.

It will be difficult for you as the only way for this issue to truly end is if either your family or his family moves.
It looks like he's blaming you for the intervention.

ActualMadness · 27/06/2022 21:24

@whynotwhatknot yes it was reported to their housing association and the police, the police did go and talk to him but it wasn’t in the public interest to charge him apparently. I am no the only person to have reported him to the housing association a couple of other households have as he has verbally abused them also, knocked on their doors kicking off for random reasons, I will say the women and child have not given my family any problems. The housing association said although there is video/audio evidence it is externally hard to evict tenants with life tenancies so unfortunately it doesn’t look positive.

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Ohtoberoavingagain · 27/06/2022 21:33

Keep on at the housing association. It should be in his tenancy agreement that he mustn’t aggravate neighbours, cause a nuisance etc…. I’ve always put this in every tenancy agreement I’ve ever issued. They just don’t want the bother of evicting someone.
Take your doorbell evidence to the police. Ask what they are going to do about a court order banning him from your property.

Mammyof22020 · 27/06/2022 21:39

Contact the noise and antisocial behaviour team at your local Council and report again to the police. Both have powers under the 2014 antisocial behaviour, crime and police act to tackle this sort of behaviour. Housing associations are also able to use some of these powers in the act such as Civil Injunctions to stop this type of behaviour and to protect you and your family. Keep on them and keep reporting, speak to your local councillor and MP as well.

Isaidnoalready · 27/06/2022 21:40

Life tenancy doesn't count when there is antisocial behaviour

ActualMadness · 27/06/2022 21:44

@Mammyof22020 thank you for the advice I will contact the council tomorrow as I haven’t approached them for help as of yet. The police visit the property more than once a week for reasons I am unaware of so they clearly know there is a very serious issue going on. The housing association make all the right noises but never actually take any action alert from to write to them which escalates the situation, after they told me they couldn’t really evict him due to his tenancy type I have stopped contacting them so much as it just makes him worse.

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ActualMadness · 27/06/2022 21:46

I am just absolutely desperate at this point, I have young children that can’t play outside in the garden and we are unable to safely leave our house as and when we please.

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Justfeelsunfair · 27/06/2022 21:50

You need to report to both Police and housing association. Every single incident.

Buythebag40 · 27/06/2022 21:50

Honestly? Id just move house. If what your saying is true they sound completely batshit and the amount of stress and effort it will take to try and get them evicted / get a restraining order or whatever will just be a huge effort and strain and may not work anyway.

Do you own or rent your house?

Justfeelsunfair · 27/06/2022 21:50

asbhelp.co.uk/

carefullycourageous · 27/06/2022 21:51

ActualMadness · 27/06/2022 20:53

@beeeeeeeeeeeeeeee also he is white and has an accent that is very identifiable from a certain area of the UK.

These things do not mean that person identifies as white British.

People who identify as travellers are white and may have a regional accent for example.

carefullycourageous · 27/06/2022 21:53

You must get everyone involved as if there are allegations against you it is best to have full involvement.

ActualMadness · 27/06/2022 21:54

@Buythebag40 we own ours do would have to declare neighbour issues, I couldn’t rent it out to a family knowing what they are moving into, I would feel far to guilty.

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LethargeMarg · 27/06/2022 21:54

Buythebag40 · 27/06/2022 21:50

Honestly? Id just move house. If what your saying is true they sound completely batshit and the amount of stress and effort it will take to try and get them evicted / get a restraining order or whatever will just be a huge effort and strain and may not work anyway.

Do you own or rent your house?

Yea but not easy with a nightmare neighbour as legally you have to declare it which will make it hard to sell.
You could sell to a house buying company which will mean taking a hit on the price but they're less likely to be bothered about problem neighbours
Although I'd keep logging and reposting / if the police are already involved or may nor take much for him to get into trouble - harrassment can be punished with a custodial sentence

RJnomore1 · 27/06/2022 21:54

Which area of the UK is he from?

Buythebag40 · 27/06/2022 21:54

These things do not mean that person identifies as white British.

People who identify as travellers are white and may have a regional accent for example.

I don't think any of this is relevant. It is clear from the Op's posts that this man is completely batshit and/or has a substance abuse issue.

This isn't about the man's "race" or what he "identifies" as. It's about the poor Op having an abusive, aggressive and frankly dangerous sounding neighbour and she is asking for advice as it sounds like the HA and council are as much use as a chocolate teapot.

ActualMadness · 27/06/2022 21:55

I wish they would just move as I am pretty sure we can’t be this unlucky twice.

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Summerfun54321 · 27/06/2022 21:57

Please report every single incident and encourage your non abusive neighbours to do the same. If he ever threatens any violence towards you or your family also report that. I’m so sorry you’re going through this, it’s awful. In the short term, you could rent out your house and rent somewhere else if you really feel that unsafe it’s just not worth it.

carefullycourageous · 27/06/2022 21:58

Buythebag40 · 27/06/2022 21:54

These things do not mean that person identifies as white British.

People who identify as travellers are white and may have a regional accent for example.

I don't think any of this is relevant. It is clear from the Op's posts that this man is completely batshit and/or has a substance abuse issue.

This isn't about the man's "race" or what he "identifies" as. It's about the poor Op having an abusive, aggressive and frankly dangerous sounding neighbour and she is asking for advice as it sounds like the HA and council are as much use as a chocolate teapot.

Just pointing out that the op doesn't know this person is white British but keeps saying it!

PersonaNonGarter · 27/06/2022 21:59

OP, it’s so tough to live like this. It’s honestly worth it being really really organised with recording dates times and incidents and reporting them to the housing association, local council, local councillors and so on.

ActualMadness · 27/06/2022 21:59

@Buythebag40 that sums it up perfectly. This man has ruined my life for far to many years and I just don’t know what to go. Tonight’s episode had pushed me completely over the edge where I have been tethering for sometime.

For the person who asked he has an accent from the Liverpool area, we do not live in Liverpool or remotely near it as down in Surrey.

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Mammyof22020 · 27/06/2022 22:02

Having dealt with a number of Housing Associations over the years regards noise and asb I can tell you most of them are utter rubbish. They do have an obligation to investigate and tackle noise and asb issues and they do have powers to do so.

I would ask the police and local authority to either consider a Community Protection Warning on your neighbour (no evidence needed to serve a warning, based on probability or likelihood nuisance is occurring) or a Civil Injunction.