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To wonder why Covid is so rampant atm?

269 replies

Summerdayzhaze · 27/06/2022 14:07

As title really, I know so many people that have it at the moment and cases are really high here, which is odd as we've had nothing but glorious sunshine here for the last couple of months really.

I thought it was a bit more dormant in the summer, especially if people are outside more in terms of bars/ restaurants etc which they certainly have been here due to the weather. Is it because the children haven't broken up yet I wonder?

Are cases high in your area atm?

OP posts:
Wheresthebeach · 27/06/2022 16:31

No masks, no testing, no isolation - it really isn't rocket science. And unsurprisingly a new variant or two swishing around.

kitcat15 · 27/06/2022 16:32

deydododatdodontdeydo · 27/06/2022 16:10

Don't think it's rampant in my area. March/April I knew dozens with it. I haven't known anyone catch it for weeks now. Since April probably.
Maybe it's high in London?
The figures certainly don't make it look rampant.

Cos hardly anyone tests anymore and if they do they don't upload results

PinkSparklyPussyCat · 27/06/2022 16:33

mirrorballer · 27/06/2022 16:07

@DizzyWhoreI8O4 you don't think it was selfish to go to a cinema with a cough?

I have a permanent cough in the summer thanks to hayfever. What do you think I should do, not go anywhere because of it?

PutinSmellsPassItOn · 27/06/2022 16:34

Oh ffs. It wasn't just coughing.

It was sneezing and nose blowing too and for what it's worth no....I wouldn't go out if I was ill like that. Wouldn't send my dc into school in that state either.

Snuffy28 · 27/06/2022 16:34

xfgdhfgnhkk007 · 27/06/2022 14:47

Makes you wonder if our vaccines did anything at all....

Er, they prevented a lot of people from dying.

mirrorballer · 27/06/2022 16:35

Apologies, of course I realise that people cough without having a contagious virus and should have said so.

The poster has clarified though that they were clearly unwell so I don't feel that bad.

ApplesandBunions · 27/06/2022 16:35

PinkSparklyPussyCat · 27/06/2022 16:33

I have a permanent cough in the summer thanks to hayfever. What do you think I should do, not go anywhere because of it?

That's the only possible conclusion. Evidently it's your responsibility to placate people who are worried about getting covid but too selfish to give up going to the cinema to protect themselves. It'll be you that's in the wrong, though.

Honestly, anyone going in a confined public space like a cinema at the moment is choosing to encounter covid, whether fellow patrons are coughing or not. There's no way round that.

IndigoC · 27/06/2022 16:41

A new, super transmissible variant and zero mitigations.

DizzyWhoreI8O4 · 27/06/2022 16:41

PutinSmellsPassItOn · 27/06/2022 16:34

Oh ffs. It wasn't just coughing.

It was sneezing and nose blowing too and for what it's worth no....I wouldn't go out if I was ill like that. Wouldn't send my dc into school in that state either.

First of all, you didn't say that in your first post, just that she was coughing.

Second, all of those symptoms could well be hayfever.

It's like masks all over again - you have no idea about anyone's personal circumstances, so best not to judge. And if you're uncomfortable around people who are coughing/sneezing/blowing their nose, stay away from them. But good luck with that, what with it being one of the worst hay fever seasons in years.

Sniffypete · 27/06/2022 16:42

rookiemere · 27/06/2022 14:57

Most of my friends have never tested positive- us included although we think we had it early doors.
This seems to mean that some people must be getting it multiple times and that having had it before doesn't provide any immunity. But death rates and hospitalisation rates are not a cause for concern, so nor should we be overly worried about the high volume of cases.

Had it in October 21 (positive lft, negative PCR) had it again February 22, by now lft was all needed.

Vaccinated twice plus booster!

Pretty sure I had it again May 22, but lft was negative.

Sandra1984 · 27/06/2022 16:43

I'm a UK based Spaniard and half of my family living in the different Spanish regions are all testing positive for covid. I'm talking about different households with half of the family testing positive, including my elderly parents who live by themselves. Nobody has needed to go to hospital, they're just at home feeling a bit down with the flu. Yes, covid is going up very fast again (at least in Spain). And these family members are all vaccinated!

DizzyWhoreI8O4 · 27/06/2022 16:43

IndigoC · 27/06/2022 16:41

A new, super transmissible variant and zero mitigations.

This 'zero mitigations' bollocks is driving me bonkers.

We. Have. Vaccines.

Possibly the most effective mitigation of all.

AmaryIlis · 27/06/2022 16:43

People mixing for sport and festivals won't help.

IcedPurple · 27/06/2022 16:43

I can't believe that people are still trotting out the 'selfish' and 'nobody cares' line.

Let me guess. These folks are from the 'laptop class' WFH so very 'productively' and who, like so many on MM, consider their fellow humans other than their 'DH' and 'DC' mainly as sources of annoyance and of course 'germs'. The comment about parties being 'germ soup' is typical. These people quite enjoyed lockdown, whether they'll admit it or not, and are nostalgic for being able to wag fingers at Gemma from number 14 for having guests over for coffee.

If you want to lock yourself up to avoid a virus which is mild for the majority of people and which is so contagious that nothing short of a full lockdown, if that, is going to make any inroads, suit yourself. But maybe look a little closer to your comfy home before calling others 'selfish' for simply going about their lives.

Hotpinkangel19 · 27/06/2022 16:44

Because people send their ill children into nurseries dosed up on calpol rather than taking care of them at home.

IcedPurple · 27/06/2022 16:44

IndigoC · 27/06/2022 16:41

A new, super transmissible variant and zero mitigations.

But if it's 'super transmissible' then surely 'mitigations' are going to help?

IcedPurple · 27/06/2022 16:47

AmaryIlis · 27/06/2022 16:43

People mixing for sport and festivals won't help.

It'll certainly help the millions whose mental and physical health suffered from not being able to properly practice sport for the best part of two years, as well as the beleaguered events industry which has been decimated by lockdowns.

DangerNoodles · 27/06/2022 16:47

I am the same @PinkSparklyPussyCat I'm pretty much immune to dirty looks now, especially when I am at work. I'm hardly going to give up my job so others can feel a bit more comfortable about going out!

It did upset me when DS had a cough that lasted several weeks after covid, he's 4 but the pure looks of disgust from some people were awful.

SamphirethePogoingStickerist · 27/06/2022 16:48

IcedPurple · 27/06/2022 16:44

But if it's 'super transmissible' then surely 'mitigations' are going to help?

Depends on what the reasons for not mitigating it are. Letting it run and burn itself out so that it is less virulent in winter, or most people will have had the extant strain, etc.

That kind of discussion was had on the various podiums, online, etc. It isn't an error or an oversight. It is policy. Just as it was last summer.

ApplesandBunions · 27/06/2022 16:49

If you want to lock yourself up to avoid a virus which is mild for the majority of people and which is so contagious that nothing short of a full lockdown, if that, is going to make any inroads, suit yourself. But maybe look a little closer to your comfy home before calling others 'selfish' for simply going about their lives.

Exactly this.

AnwenDolly · 27/06/2022 16:49

PutinSmellsPassItOn · 27/06/2022 16:10

Dizzy Because she was coughing, sneezing and retching so badly for two hours that when she stopped at one point I looked over to check she hadn't dropped dead.

She either had an extremely heavy cold or she had covid. Either way she knew she was ill and she knew sitting in a cinema around people puts others at risk of also being ill. How is that not selfish?

Perhaps a bit of popcorn went down the wrong way. It does happen... 😉

IcedPurple · 27/06/2022 16:49

Depends on what the reasons for not mitigating it are.

But given how incredibly transmissible these 'sub variants' are, what 'mitigations' would actually help to stop the spread?

DangerNoodles · 27/06/2022 16:50

Hotpinkangel19 · 27/06/2022 16:44

Because people send their ill children into nurseries dosed up on calpol rather than taking care of them at home.

Because they can't justify the financial hit if the child only has a mild illness.

The bottom line is people care about thier nearest and dearest over everyone else. Restrictions have caused a financial crisis and some are really struggling.

AmericanWerewolf · 27/06/2022 16:51

It’s definitely on the rise, OP. It’s going through my workplace rapidly!
I’ve been off for a week (last week) with ‘something’ NHS Wales weren’t bothered when I rang, just said to stay in bed whilst feeling rough, don’t bother with a test, and then go back to work when I feel better🤷‍♀️ It started last Sunday with the sore throat from hell, then awful fatigue, aching body, no appetite and shocker of a headache. From Wednesday onwards, felt generally better but lost my voice!! My appetite came back but I’m still a little weary. Nobody (health authority) seems at all interested, and the Dr who rang me back said that Covid is now no different to a cold!
Not sure how this will play out over winter, especially as we’ll be cutting back with heating and decent quality food etc. I found it a bit concerning to be honest.

Lilifer · 27/06/2022 16:52

TheKeatingFive · 27/06/2022 14:43

We're in another wave. Surge then retreat, repeat, that's the pattern. Get used to it.

This ⬆️