To wonder why Covid is so rampant atm?

[Summerdayzhaze]

As title really, I know so many people that have it at the moment and cases are really high here, which is odd as we've had nothing but glorious sunshine here for the last couple of months really.

I thought it was a bit more dormant in the summer, especially if people are outside more in terms of bars/ restaurants etc which they certainly have been here due to the weather. Is it because the children haven't broken up yet I wonder?

Are cases high in your area atm?

What do you suggest people do?

Define rampant?

The dashboard shows a 30% increase but rates are still very low compared to other waves.

Apparently they've seen the same in some other countries recently but they were raised waves rather then full on ones iyswim?

Problem is that no one will follow restrictions now after what we learned about DS etc. so we need to reply on people using common sense based on the public health issues we've learnt about the last 2 or so years.

You're quick to jump on people. People are quick to jump on you. 🤷‍♀️

It doesn't really matter. Around 1 in TWENTY people have it in Scotland at the moment. Hospitals are not suffering from Covid issues - the are suffering from backlogs. People aren't dropping in the streets. If 1/20 people have it at any one time and it's all ok, it just becomes as problematic as any other illness. Everyone is triple vaccinated who wants to be. It can't get much worse than 1/20 having it! People blaming masks etc! What is the point. The aim isn't prevention at all costs. If 3 vaccines aren't enough, nothing ever will be. People have lost perspective.

It's rampant because the newest variants of Omicron, BA.4 and BA.5 are on the up and previous infection, even with Omicron, isn't that great at giving immunity to them.
The vaccines were a while ago for most people so their effectiveness has also waned, though they are still helping prevent serious illness for many.
We have completely abandoned any other mitigations, such as mask wearing, WFH, avoiding large indoor events, free tests and isolating while infectious etc.

No judgment on any of this. I'm glad life is better for many but the downside will be another wave and struggles for the NHS.

The measures you mention didn't prevent the spread of Omicron when we still had them, which would seem to indicate that it isn't the absence of them that's the problem. The bulk of the rest of the population simply aren't willing to indulge those of you who retain faith based attachments to masks and the like, and given the rising cost of living the purchase of tests and isolation on SSP is a luxury many people simply cannot afford. It is not us who are being selfish.

OP the answer is that it's an extremely contagious variant of the virus and one that we aren't able to do a great deal about. Additionally, a lot of people had either an infection or a vaccine in December/January time and any immunity from that may be wearing off around now so are ripe for reinfection.

It will become like flu in a few years and become most prevalent in the winter but until that happens there will be waves every few months.
Comments such as people living like it doesn’t exist are so stupid. People are just living normally, they know it’s never going away so no point doing anything else. It’s just taking its place among all the other viruses.

I was on holiday in Scotland at the beginning of June and travelled on a very crowded train as Scotrail had cancelled the previous one and the one after but as we had to catch the ferry from Aberdeen we really needed to get on. We got home the following Tuesday and Dh tested positive on the Wednesday and I tested positive on the Thursday.

Dh had had his fourth dose of vaccine about 4 weeks before we went away and was only ill for 2 days but I have only had 3 doses and I felt really unwell and dizzy for 10 days. Fortunately our Dd lives close so she was able to get shopping but I didn't feel safe to drive for 2 weeks. I was very relieved to have had my vaccines

The thing is, its a virus, it spreads from person to person, just as all viruses do. Given that we are, for the most part, living normally again - no masks, no social distancing, people going to concerts, nightclubs, school, offices, restaurants etc - coming into often large numbers of people on a regular basis, numbers are actually very low compared to some of the early waves we had when restrictions were in place (particularly looking at numbers in ICU etc).

Actually, no, it wasn't at all clear. Maybe you should go back and reread it, so you can see why @ItsSnowJokes and I both thought you knew you had it and knowingly came into contact with thousands of people.

"I've got it for the first time and I went to my first gig..." sounds like you got it and then went to the gig.

If you have a hospital appointment, you can't pretend you don't have it. They will test you and find out, @CaptainMyCaptain

I don't think they are high where I am in Wales its 1 in 45 apparently.

I've seen the media blame Jubilee weekend - but the train strike this last weekend there was a huge list of big events potentially affected and it stopped DD1 doing another university open day. DH off in a few weeks to big conference in his area of expertise.

We actually not back to normal - more working from home less going out still at weekends - but we still need to do some things - like see where DD1 might want to spend 3 years of her life and literally thousands of pounds or doing things with work like conferences. GP went two year without seeing our children - as they and us are reliant on public transport - they waited out the extended exam period but will be coming down soon.

So social mixing basically - and I'm not sure it is desirable to curtail this - and more transmissible variants.

Everyone I know is vaccinated as much as they are allowed to be - I expect they'll do flu and corvid vaccination campaigns this winter.

My DD eldest tested positive a couple of weeks ago. It cost £60 plus a box of 10 NHS test. She stayed in, I worked from home and DH tested everyday before work, unable to work from home.
Then he tested positive, took holiday from work and I tested positive next day. We all stayed in house and online food shopped.
I felt rubbish and spent 7 days watching box sets until I was negative.
I’ve done my bit.
It’s a virus, it’s doing it’s thing.

I knew what you meant but writing 'this week' might have been a bit confusing to others.

So much this

it is not about being ‘selfish’ or not in most cases

And indeed, some of the people complaining about others not observing certain behaviours are themselves being selfish.

As previously mentioned, really. No rules around contact, testing costs rather a lot of money now! No masks. Everyone thinking it’s definitely only mild because we all know “someone who didn’t know they even had it” therefore it doesn’t matter!

I think it's because of the lack of measures in place. I've currently got it for the first time...
Coincidence that only a few weeks ago my work dropped mask wearing and the same on public transport...the 2 places where I'm with a lot of people? I think not.

I’ve just got it for the first time think from someone at work, but there seems to be a lot going around our village at the moment. I have been worried about catching it as I have got type 1 diabetes.

No they don't.

I've had literally dozens of hospital appointments since the start of the pandemic and they absolutely do not test. Besides, by the time you're at the hospital for your appointment you're already at the hospital for your appointment, so what exactly would it prevent?

We all have covid here.... Im convinced I got it off a selfish woman in the cinema last week who coughed so much I was convinced she was choking.

I myself only tested by chance when i noticed I couldn't smell......)

Why was she selfish?

3 other people on the thread understood just fine.

The reason I am annoyed is that reading my post in this way implies that I would come on Mumsnet, where people have lost family members and are are frightened for CEV family, and post that I had deliberately gone out and infected a whole football stadium of people. Why? Why would I? I'd get my arse handed to me (clearly). Does it not make more sense that I was merely commenting that I'd finally permitted myself to go a gig and been unlucky first time?

Funny how nobody who somehow knows how they got covid ever seems to attribute it to asymptomatic transmission.

@hoopyloopy2 except lots of people are feeling really shitty and missing time off work. I did and lost money.
Early symptoms are like hayfever, mine were, so if people aren't testing then, it's too late to reduce transmission to others.

Actually I was unwell for weeks and weeks and so was my partner. It took us ages to properly recover.