To wonder why Covid is so rampant atm?

[Summerdayzhaze]

As title really, I know so many people that have it at the moment and cases are really high here, which is odd as we've had nothing but glorious sunshine here for the last couple of months really.

I thought it was a bit more dormant in the summer, especially if people are outside more in terms of bars/ restaurants etc which they certainly have been here due to the weather. Is it because the children haven't broken up yet I wonder?

Are cases high in your area atm?

The vaccines saved 20 million lives.
www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/covid-19-vaccine-saved-nearly-20-million-lives-in-a-year-study-says/

I have a permanent cough, sneezing etc. a result of all my chemo, radiotherapy and immunotherapy. I will always be like this, a considerably better option to being dead and leaving my four children without a parent (their father died 10 years ago). But you crack on.

It might make you wonder, everyone else with the least bit of common sense knows they did

Are there really people walking around who think the vaccines made no difference 🤗

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I'm still doing the basics when around others. Mask, social distance, hand washing.

Did catch my first cold in 4 years.

I don’t think it’s selfish to want to go back to normal. You could argue covid aside we could all live a sheltered life of never leaving the house with the slightest sniffle, wearing masks just in case, staying apart from people to protect those vulnerable to infection and illness anyway. But we as humans are animals and are sociable and need contact with others (some more than others). We naturally fall back into our normal pattern of behaviour and sadly those who are CEV just have an extra worry on their plate (I have many CEV family members so I do understand the concern but you can’t expect everyone to adapt for them).

Being super transmissable is not the same as it being dangerous.

We don't have to lock ourselves away for a cold, though we should for the flu. That kind of thing.

I've always wondered if all of the social distancing, lockdowns, etc only extended its course and perhaps altered it from developing into a mild flu-like illness in most cases into a particularly nasty one.

We would appear to have created perfect breeding grounds for a particularly adapted virus which had not been eradicated by killing its weak hosts (sorry to sound insensitive) and spreading at its normal speed through the population. It has had more time to adapt to its hosts because of that surely.

That doesn't answer my question.

People are talking about 'mitigations', but they haven't specified what 'mitigations' they believe would be effective in helping to stop the spread of a super contagious virus.

Hence my question.

Because we are mixing normally for the first time in 2 years with large scale events, people travelling to and from the UK etc etc. This is a good thing as it is showing that although covid levels are high the vaccinations are working as there aren't 100,000s of deaths

FWIW primary school aged DS has had 3 bouts of illness needing time off school in the last 6 weeks. None were covid (we did test as I had some test kits hanging around). I don't think this is a bad thing to be honest - his immune system is being challenged / built up again after 2 years

There's also the point that, two and a half years into this, people's ability to take the hit involved in keeping their child off nursery has reduced. It's simply less accessible than it was.

There are people who would've been able to and did keep sick DC off a year ago, because they had savings, or could cover all bills for the week even with the temporary loss of one income, or their employer would give them paid leave out of goodwill, but where these things no longer apply because they've had to do it 7 times since and the cost of living has skyrocketed.

Same with car seatbelts.

People still get killed in car crashes, so makes you wonder if they do anything...

@DashboardConfessional

Nice, and incorrect. I caught it after the second gig, tested positive 6 days later. Was that not clear?!

No, if wasn’t. I read it in the way PP did.

I can't believe people are still uploading test results - why?

It is absolutely ridiculous that people are deemed selfish for wanting to live, rather than exist, again after the best part of 2 years. One of my kids has spent nearly 1/4 of her life under covid restrictions of various levels- that's not natural or good for child development at all. Exactly when does it stop being "selfish" for people to focus on the needs of that generation versus those who will forever be terrified of this one particular virus? 2 years? 3 years? Forever? It's starting to resemble that Simpsons episode where the oldies get the kids locked up under curfew.

If you want to work from a laptop on the kitchen table forever, and only ever see your mum sat 2 m away at the end of her driveway - then fine, negotiate WFH with your employers and crack on with it - but forcing it onto other people was absolutely killing the fuck out of the economy and shredding lots of people's mental health (if you enjoyed the "slower pace of life" and still want to live out your banana bread fetish - again, crack on with it, but it really really did cause a lot of mental health problems for a lot of people). But if you're wanting everyone else to continue to live in that horrendously sterile, isolating and artificial fashion because you're feeling scared still (and viruses will ALWAYS be out there and there's much nastier than current covid lurking around) and you expect the world to continue in that TEMPORARY lockdown state to soothe your anxiety and things like cinemas to continue masked, distanced (cutting down on their takings and making them unviable to run as businesses) so YOU can go out and about and live but not wanting others to do the same... I think that we've now definitely hit the point where one side is selfish and doesn't care - and it's not those with a niggly cough from hayfever/asthma/lingering cold/20 Marlboro a day who have the urge to see the latest Top Gun.

Only time I do is if I know I'm going on a visit to a setting who are going to request the text confirmation. I'm against the whole test stuff and think it's bonkers but I'd like to stay employed so I have to grit teeth and bear that one on occasion.

It is not the killer of thousands it once was.
The hospital ICUs are not overrun.
Furlough payments have ceased and most likely will not be re introduced
Vaccinations have helped.

It is the same in most countries that have no restrictions anymore. However, as soon as hospitals struggle and large numbers of deaths occur, I think things will change.

Most people have given up giving a shit about each other

FFS - having to get on with our lives and not be constantly in cycles of lockdowns/testing/masks does not mean people don't give a shit about each other - don't be hysterical.

Because numpties are testing and uploading results

it specifically says online for adults in England NOT to test - that’s nhs and gov advice

it’s the lazy sods who’s workplaces still allow isolation that are doing it - mine included

We all just had it last week and my front line NHS husband was told to go into work regardless of me and our 5 month old testing positive- he ended up with a positive the day of his shift. He's a paramedic and would have been around dozens of people

I do the sneezing and nose blowing as well, there's not a lot I can do about it to be honest. I sound like I've got a cold all summer. Are you seriously saying anyone with hay fever should stay in all summer?

Although obviously not entirely responsible I can't help but think what on earth the people are thinking in the Ticktock craze where you take a mouth full of water ( often from a shared bottle /glass ) and stand at arms length from each other taking it in turns to slap each other across the face with a flour tortilla untill one of uou spits out the waterin the direction of someone only 2 foot away.

I am all for people finding cheep fun things to do but even without covid this baffles me , with the threat of it ? There lies madness .
Yes I know most people playing this will think they don't have covid but as we all know there tends to be no / few symptoms for the first day or two so . . . .

Because we’re living with it, as we have to, and as most other countries are. It’s never going away, and will continue to come in waves every three months for a very long time to come. If you want to wear masks and stay at home, crack on, although I don’t know why you bother as covid has already taken your life in that case, but leave everyone else alone.

Ugh excuse the poor grammar and spelling

Rampant here too.

The people going down with it are the ones not had it before.

Only a handful of people left now that I know of, who have not had it[those who are still being very careful]

It is like, a variation will catch everyone eventually.

Like, who never gets a cold? [yes i know covid is not a cold blah blah]