To be totally gutted for American women?

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The US Supreme Court has reversed the Roe v Wade ruling. Millions of American women have lost their right to make decisions about what happens to their own bodies.

I have never had an abortion and personally, I'm not sure if I ever could, but I have always been passionately of the view that individual women should be able to make that choice for themselves. It's awful that this right has been removed for so many.

Cheers! I’m genuinely so upset and angry by today’s decision but looking forward to sticking around.

Is that meant to be making some kind of a point? Label it what you like.

@FreyaStorm

As to your sarcastic comment about contraception, in the US, you have to pay for it (great if you can afford it with spiralling costs!) but, again, another cost for the girls/women in poverty who this overturn will affect the most. You know--those feckless ones who dared have sex, be raped, or sexually abused, whatever.
But, you know, it's much better to bear and raise a child in poverty or abandon it then abort it whilst it's an embryo.

Abortion may not be your thing and more power to you. But you really shouldn't be celebrating the choice being taken away from other women, especially as it is the start of the erosion of women's rights in the US. First comes surgical abortion, then medical abortion, then MAP, then all contraception.

Contraception and abortion helped get women out of the home and into the workplace. It was facilitated full equal rights at work. Banning it may send us back. It will certainly increase female mortality and poverty rates of women and children.

Do you know the percentage of abortions that take place after 20 weeks? It's less than 2%, and that's including abortions where the foetus has been deemed as severely disabled or incompatible with life at the 20 week scan.

Pushing the narrative that women are bumbling along and then just decide at 20 weeks that they just can't he arsed with it, is just horseshit.

You’re thinking of a chemical abortion if it’s in the early weeks. Decidedly not brutal, agreed.
But it gets brutal later, say around 20 weeks

no, i’m thinking of a medical abortion. Which is the correct term for what you appear to think is a “chemical” abortion.

you are thinking of a surgical abortion. Harder for the mother, but not for the child who is already dead before the procedure.

@Brideandprejudice No I'm asking if you are pro-birth in this circumstance. What is your answer?

20 week old fetuses are classed as a late term miscarriage and no one throws anything at them to try and save them. Been there, done that. NICU does not get involved.

The vast majority of TOP in the UK take place prior to 10wks and almost all prior to 13wks. A very small percentage take place between 13wks and 24wks. Around 240 take place post-24wks and all of these are for medical reasons. Most women don't wait until 16/17/18+ weeks and suddenly decide to get a TOP for shits and giggles, the majority get it done as early as possible and for those done later there will be reasons.

All of these figures are available from the ONS website.

I came on to say what a shameful day this is for the USA.
Everyone should watch the episode of Family Guy which was banned in lots of southern states.
I agree with a woman’s right to choose.
If a man does not agree with a woman’s right to choose then there is a very simple solution. Stop putting your penis in women. Simple.

It’s awful. American women should withhold their labour for the day (including domestic labour and childcare) in protest.

If men had to wipe an arse, or miss a meeting for a sick child etc etc then might at least get a small idea of the value autonomous women bring to society.

I’m reminded of the film Revolutionary Road with Winslet and DiCaprio. It’s really tragic and heartbreaking

At least you’re admitting it now, that’s slightly less cowardly.

graphics.reuters.com/USA-ABORTION/GRAPHIC/zgpomdbeopd/index.html

Great infographics on the bans per state

I found this link on another thread:

academic.oup.com/jlb/article/9/1/lsac011/6575467?login=false

I've made my answer quite clear. Not entirely sure why you think asking the same question again with a different scenario would make me change my mind.

And what about how to take the contraceptive pill, or where to get an implant fitted? Or how you can access the morning after pill?

Admitting what? I've said in basically every post on this thread that I am against abortion.

That your a forced birther who doesn’t give a shit about prisoners of war (sometimes very young ones) being impregnated through rape.

*you’re, I’m typing too quickly.

@Brideandprejudice ok so you are pro birth in rape used as a weapon in war. How lovely you are.

So, just to be clear, you think that in a situation where a woman is raped as a weapon of war, that woman should not be allowed to legally access an abortion?

Wow....

Cameleongirl what is a red state?

@Brideandprejudice Does that include children?

Good to know that the one time I was able to become pregnant it was an ectopic pregnancy & that in some states in the USA I’d have been left to sue

Republican, right-wing, anti-abortion usually.

Why concentrate on keeping them safe in the womb, but give up on them once they’re out?

This is something that really worries me about the pro-lifers'views, in that they're happy to force their preferences on others, but ask any of the difficult questions and answers are either non-existent or very selective

It's perfectly true that the number of abortions because of appalling abuse might be small statistically, but without it those children will exist - and that's without all those born into dreadful disadvantage, the dead illegal-abortion-seekers and so on

But yet again the pro-lifers seem to dodge these issues, which is perhaps a little odd for those who claim to be adopting a moral position

Yes abortion for rape is a tricky one, because it should be allowed imo, but then proving it times out while the foetus grows.
I’m in favour of abortion for rape victims, of course.
We’d just have to take women’s word for it, so it probably wouldn’t decrease the number of abortions very much, but it may make women think about it more. Perhaps only have one abortion in a lifetime, rather than a few, like a girl I knew who had 3 by age 18.