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Mick Lynch

575 replies

KangFang · 23/06/2022 13:08

Anyone else here loving his work?

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ApplesandBunions · 23/06/2022 16:29

JassyRadlett · 23/06/2022 16:08

I think I'd fallen in to the 'strikes are unpopular with the people inconvenienced by them' narrative without actually checking whether there was a basis for it.

There are definitely people who'd like you to think that, so I can understand it.

TullyApplebottom · 23/06/2022 16:29

JassyRadlett · 23/06/2022 16:08

I think I'd fallen in to the 'strikes are unpopular with the people inconvenienced by them' narrative without actually checking whether there was a basis for it.

I am not sure that a couple of opinion polls are convincing evidence of large scale public support for above inflation pay demands.
but just in case they are, I’ll resurrect my emigration plans - because in that case we’ve really had it

the80sweregreat · 23/06/2022 16:32

I had to look up the Richard Madeley interview.
Calling his question ' twaddle' was funny. As was him calling the junior minister a liar to his face! He isn't scared of people. The media are not used to this line of defense.
He made Piers Morgan look stupid too even if he did pretend to understand his position (At first anyway )
The only one who showed him any respect was Nick Ferrari today , he obviously knew he couldn't try it on too much with the Lynch and he is generally a bit of a bulldog.
Not seen the Kay burley one yet..

SpinningTheSeedsOfLove · 23/06/2022 16:35

SofiaSoFar · 23/06/2022 13:45

Can't stand him.

You won't see much criticism on here - people daren't speak out if it's criticism of socialist actions - but the voting will soon tell you he's not unanimously supported even on such a left-biased site as this.

I thought we were all right-wing Daily Mail reading Christian evangelical nutters?

ClaudineClare · 23/06/2022 16:35

I am over 55 and fully support the strikes. Not all of us are out of touch reactionaries!

@TullyApplebottom what a shame Brexit means that it will be less easy for you to relocate to the EU. Or are you planning to go further afield?

ApplesandBunions · 23/06/2022 16:37

I am not sure that a couple of opinion polls are convincing evidence of large scale public support for above inflation pay demands

Yet it's more evidence than you supplied upthresd when you suggested other workers weren't likely to be sympathetic. Perhaps the problem isn't so much the quality of the evidence as what it says...

DancesWithFelines · 23/06/2022 16:38

I’m a rail worker and although I’m in a different union, I think Mick Lynch has been excellent. I must say that this time around there has been so much public support, and a lot of that will be to do with the way Mick has conducted himself and how he has been able to explain the issues. I stopped by my local picket line on Tuesday for a chat and was so surprised to hear all the car horns and cheers of support (middle class, eternally Conservative suburb).

I think that people are finally waking up to the fact that teachers, TAs, nurses, lower paid rail workers, fire fighters etc have huge responsibilities for others, rigorous training, unsocial hours, rules and regs coming out of their ears yet anyone under 35 in these roles now is very unlikely to be able to afford a modest standard of living.

I honestly think we are headed back to the days (in London at least) when multiple unrelated families would live in the same house, ie. Parents and kids renting two rooms and another family with children living downstairs, sharing bills etc.

If you are hauling your arse across London on a night bus for a 5am start at a skilled full time role and your partner is doing the same but you cannot afford to rent or buy a modest flat in a city suburb plus cover bills then something is deeply wrong.

The working class have no options here but to get behind unions. Inflation is at 11% and rising fast, the RMT have asked for a very modest 7% (still a real terms cut) to be told you are greedy bastards.

“oh they shouldn’t be striking coz inflation” Yeah, but there’s always a reason not to give the workers a fair rise, isn’t there? The recession of 08/09, Cameron’s Age of Austerity, then May told us there was no magic money tree for us. Then Covid, now we can’t do it because of inflation. Funny how all this never seems to hit the rich in the pocket though. Property prices shored up and banks bailed out until the cows come home.

ApplesandBunions · 23/06/2022 16:38

SpinningTheSeedsOfLove · 23/06/2022 16:35

I thought we were all right-wing Daily Mail reading Christian evangelical nutters?

I like to rotate on a weekly basis. Keeps things fresh.

IcecreamForAlcohol · 23/06/2022 16:43

KangFang · 23/06/2022 13:08

Anyone else here loving his work?

Someone needs to take this corrupt government to task. I hope he is their downfall.

Along with the other unions balloting for strike. Teachers, Royal Mail, Civil Servants.

A year of discontent could be just what we need for political change.

IcecreamForAlcohol · 23/06/2022 16:44

GrabbyGabby · 23/06/2022 13:23

This made me giggle

That's great 😀

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 23/06/2022 16:45

Just seen British Airways are striking. They were given a 10% wage cut during Covid and it isn’t being reinstated.🤬Hobestly what do they expect?

Power to the People!💪🏻💪🏻This is so refreshing and exactly what’s this country needs.

GCRich · 23/06/2022 16:48

TullyApplebottom · 23/06/2022 15:09

are you honestly suggesting that a Labour movement representing a very narrow sectional interest is comparable to advocacy for basic rights for half the human race?
seriously?

No, I am saying that fighting for the rights of a relatively underprivileged group is a good thing, whether the group is very large or very small. Hence fighting for women in a patriarchal society is good, fighting for workers, or a particular subset of workers, is also good.

WatchoRulo · 23/06/2022 16:49

User135644 · 23/06/2022 16:26

Comes down to demographics though. The core Tory voter is pension age. Nothing against pensioners but the average MN poster is not a pensioner.

Tories have a huge deficit with under 40s.

I'm 60 and the Tories have a huge fucking deficit with me and always have.

LazyDaisy22 · 23/06/2022 16:51

Another over 55 here and very impressed with Mick and in full support of the strike. The way he responded to Kay Burley was excellent - cool, calm and not rising to her obvious baiting.

the80sweregreat · 23/06/2022 16:54

I've watched all of Mike Lynch's 'greatest hits' now with the media and he is just so different to the norm.
Articulate, sound and sticking by his workers. A lot of people won't like this , of course , but it's refreshing to hear someone calling out the fat cats and the inequality we live with on a daily basis. If only the Labour Party leader was as good as he is at staying with the points and refusing to bow down to the likes of Burley and Morgan.
He is a 'marmite' person for sure, but it has made a change from the usual political chit chat we get which takes us nowhere , even if many do not agree with him or these planned rail strikes.

RevoltingHumanHead · 23/06/2022 16:58

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 23/06/2022 16:45

Just seen British Airways are striking. They were given a 10% wage cut during Covid and it isn’t being reinstated.🤬Hobestly what do they expect?

Power to the People!💪🏻💪🏻This is so refreshing and exactly what’s this country needs.

Good for British Airways workers. Cheeky fucks using the pandemic as an excuse to cut pay by 10%. A strike sounds entirely reasonable to me.

WatchoRulo · 23/06/2022 16:59

ILoveAllRainbowsx · 23/06/2022 15:07

What is so great about someone who can hold the whole country to ransom?

What skills do you need to grind the country to a halt simply by telling your members to go on strike?

I and anyone else over the age of 10 could do that.

Not sure where you've been recently but we have some of the most restrictive trade union legislation in the World. Union leaders don't just tell the members to have a strike.

Crikeyalmighty · 23/06/2022 17:01

Admire his style- he's clear and not easily phased- don't agree with his Brexit/lexiter views but I suspect that's because he hasn't been in a business situation and is a bit green on the subject

IcecreamForAlcohol · 23/06/2022 17:02

NellieJean · 23/06/2022 16:17

He’s given up having breakfast at home as he’s eating the likes of Kay Burley etc instead.
He is on Question Time tonight. The govt is sending Rachel McLean, I don’t like bloodsports but I’ll make an exception.

Thanks for mentioning this. I'll look forward to it.

GreenLunchBox · 23/06/2022 17:03

Wouldloveanother · 23/06/2022 14:46

I don’t think I’ve ever seen a presenter as flustered as Kay Burley in that interview. It was fantastic.

And yet she actually used the word 'flustered' to describe his performance in the interview. twitter.com/KayBurley/status/1539166310227116034?t=ivEP9W9HCiXMiWDv29519A&s=19

Projection or what?! Confused

I despise what this country has become. Literally copying Trump's 'alternative facts' bullshit. Well guess what folks, America has grown up and thrown out the idiot. When the fuck will Britain wake up?

ClaudineClare · 23/06/2022 17:04

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 23/06/2022 16:45

Just seen British Airways are striking. They were given a 10% wage cut during Covid and it isn’t being reinstated.🤬Hobestly what do they expect?

Power to the People!💪🏻💪🏻This is so refreshing and exactly what’s this country needs.

BA staff were absolutely shafted in 2020, they had to either take redundancy or accept hugely detrimental new terms and conditions. Now they are being expected to bear the brunt of the effects of the loss of staff that resulted from that. Good for them, I hope they win.

I am an unpaid carer. I wish we could band together and ask for more than £69.70 per week (£1.99 an hour) but we have not got the power that rail and airline workers have, sadly. So I stand behind everyone who is holding the government to account.

GreenLunchBox · 23/06/2022 17:04

TullyApplebottom · 23/06/2022 14:48

Nope, sorry. Claiming the current government is fascist is an insult to victims of fascism everywhere, and posting bad poetry doesn’t change that.

It really isn't. Wake up

ApplesandBunions · 23/06/2022 17:05

LazyDaisy22 · 23/06/2022 16:51

Another over 55 here and very impressed with Mick and in full support of the strike. The way he responded to Kay Burley was excellent - cool, calm and not rising to her obvious baiting.

There are definitely over 55s who are in support too of course. Here's another one, by the looks of things.

www.thelondoneconomic.com/news/gb-news-cut-interview-short-after-taxi-driver-says-he-100-backs-workers-out-on-strike-326934/

GreenLunchBox · 23/06/2022 17:06

RevoltingHumanHead · 23/06/2022 16:58

Good for British Airways workers. Cheeky fucks using the pandemic as an excuse to cut pay by 10%. A strike sounds entirely reasonable to me.

Good!

I was wondering when people were going to take action and actually DO something.

Time for a general strike

ApplesandBunions · 23/06/2022 17:08

Many aviation industry workers were treated shamefully during the pandemic. I'm not surprised to see them take action.