Mick Lynch

[KangFang]

Anyone else here loving his work?

I love him, what a hero. The fact that he dealt with Richard Madeley in such a withering manner put the cherry on the cake for me.

He said in an interview that he's not a labour member.

He also cleared up the lie that the RMT donate to the Labour party that a so-called journalist casually spouted as fact

I am laughing at the idea that people on AIBU will not criticise socialist actions. It is AIBU. People on here criticise everything.

100 % this. Mick seems to be shining a light on all their prejudice. What happened to impartiality?

had half-expected to see that in the polling, @TullyApplebottom, and was quite surprised that the only age demographic that doesn't doesn't overall think the strikes are justified was the over 55s - so the demographic where the majority aren't in work

Im 58. I think he’s a 🌟so do all my friends and family ( all over 55)

To be fair I don't think he is marmite. I think he's an engaging, likeable guy. Some people just don't like unions (not least after 40 years or Murdoch, Daily Mail and the other right wing press waging war on them anyone associated with a union) and fear the plebs actually being told the truth, rather than the pack of lies you get from the Tories and their fat cat backers in the press.

Hold on a minute. The premise of this thread was around whether we agree with the OP regarding the sun shining out of Mick Lynch's rear passage.

There must be a bit missing where we're now accountable to you if we don't agree.

What an entertaining misrepresentation of my post. Where did you pull the idea that I think anyone at all is accountable to me?

Someone engaged with you on the substance of comments you made. You declined to engage on substance of their questions, because it's 'fuck all to do with them'. (Charming manners, incidentally.) I've pointed out the oddness of being unwilling to engage with a poster about your views when you had been complaining that discussing those views was not allowed/forbidden.

I do stand by my observation, though. No one's stopping you from sharing your political views. You just seem curiously unwilling to discuss them in any depth on a political thread.

That's how discussion works, you know? Someone says something, you respond to it, they may respond to you in turn, and so it goes. Threads that are policed so that only the original post is allowed to be discussed are desperately dull and unenlightening.

The working class have no options here but to get behind unions. Inflation is at 11% and rising fast, the RMT have asked for a very modest 7% (still a real terms cut) to be told you are greedy bastards.

And given it's what they've asked for they'd take a bit less given the way negotiations work.

The Tories have purposely spoiled for a fight. IMO Johnson and his government were hoping for some Scargill figure he could run rings around and boost his popularity and it's backfired.

And a large number of over 55s agree with you (44%, according to ComRes this week). It's just not the outright majority it is in the other adult age groups.

Sorry - can you clarify for me which part of the ask is above inflation? I thought it was 7% but may be mistaken. Thanks.

had half-expected to see that in the polling, @TullyApplebottom, and was quite surprised that the only age demographic that doesn't doesn't overall think the strikes are justified was the over 55s - so the demographic where the majority aren't in work

Yeah but the Boomers/over 55's, as a voting/polling majority, will always go for the Daily Mail position on absolutely anything. It's uncanny on absolutely any polling issue at all. There's massive generational divides in political opinion. A lot of it is the fact people, generally, become more conservative in older age, but it's also that generation that still buy newspapers and have read the Mail all their lives, or Murdoch and his influence.

I admire the fact he doesn't rise to their bait.
Kay tried it on, Richard was trying to be a bit amusing , Piers Morgan was obsessed by the 'hood ' photo on his social media account, they all wanted to show him up in a bad light and try and make it ' Lynch v the public'.
In fact his speech about the inequalities that we all just put up with was spot on but that will largely go unnoticed by the ones who hate unions and strike action. Even I had him down as a ' 1970s throwback ' type , but I actually listened to the interviews and a lot of what he said did make a lot of sense. I don't get trains anywhere though , so my view is skewed. If I paid 2k a year or whatever and not be able to get to work , I'd have a completely different view of it.
The cabbies up London must be doing well when it's on , so there are always winners too.

Mick Lynch is doing Keir Starmer's job.

Wasn't there some research that indicated the conversion point from broadly liberal to broadly conservative was starting to shift older? Lots of factors at play of course but workforce participation, education levels and media consumption are all likely to be in play.

I fully support the points he makes, and believe he makes them well. I am particularly fond of how he takes down the Tory politicians and media. I have socialist beliefs.

But there's something in his sneering, prickly responses that makes me think he might be a bit of a bully. I can't quite put my finger on it, but I wouldn't say I like him as such. But I do admire the way he is on top of his brief.

@the80sweregreat
"The cabbies up London must be doing well when it's on , so there are always winners too."

Not just them - I tried to hire a car in Cornwall for the weekend as ours has died and I wanted to go to an event on Saturday. No trains in the entire county, buses are impossible for that journey, and Enterprise could only hire me a massive long wheel base van for £300 or a Vauxhall Corsa for £900..... For three days.

Mick Lynch is doing Mick Lynch's job. Keir Starmer is doing Keir Starmer's. Different people, different styles, common enemy.

Yeah but the Boomers/over 55's, as a voting/polling majority, will always go for the Daily Mail position on absolutely anything. It's uncanny on absolutely any polling issue at all

This is such a horrible generalisation. Who do you think fought for the workers/womens/gay and lesbian rights that exist now? Who was out campaigning against the Tories during the Thatcher years? Who fought for marital rape to become illegal etc. etc. etc? Boomers and the over 55s, that's who.

Oh and Mick Lynch is a Boomer

He is

+Yeah but the Boomers/over 55's, as a voting/polling majority, will always go for the Daily Mail position on absolutely anything. It's uncanny on absolutely any polling issue at all. There's massive generational divides in political opinion. A lot of it is the fact people, generally, become more conservative in older age, but it's also that generation that still buy newspapers and have read the Mail all their lives, or Murdoch and his influence*

NO! Not all of us at all. NO! No! NO! I hate Murdoch and the Daily Mail in my 20’s and hate them now. I’d bloody love to meet these right wing over 55’s. Because l know NO ONE in my age group like this. I wonder if it’s a north/south thing?

He is on Question Time tonight, I can't wait to see him wiping the floor with another Tory.

@ClaudineClare

Absolutely agree. That statement is dreadful.

Things we fought for or supported
Greenham Common
Amti Nazi League
Rock against Racism
The Red Wedge
Marital Rape
Equal rights in the workplace
Sexism in the workplace
Lesbian and Gay activism
Youth unemployment in the 80’s
Thatcher shafting the north if Englsnd
The Miners
CND

Yeah we’re all right wing old bags aren’t we?

I'm not a boomer , but I am over 55 and I don't agree with the DM , the sun or the government on many things ( although I do see other peoples points of views )
Im in the minority where I live , so I tend to keep quite.
( including my own dh who is a conservative but mostly because his parents were )

And didn’t Liverpool boycott the Sun in the 80’s?

More right wing ‘Boomerism’