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Mick Lynch

575 replies

KangFang · 23/06/2022 13:08

Anyone else here loving his work?

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ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 23/06/2022 15:18

It’s always worth remembering that if MN was representative of the country at large, we’d have had Labour governments more or less forever

Its worth remembering that if we had fair voting we wouldn’t have a right wing fascist government.

Strugglingtodomybest · 23/06/2022 15:18

It's so so refreshing to hear someone like him on the news again.

I cringed so hard for Kay Burley, what was she thinking? I don't know how these things work, but would she have had her producer (or whoever) in her ear telling her to keep pressing him? It's the only explanation I can come up with.

Igmum · 23/06/2022 15:19

Love him! He has done some brilliant interviews. Clear, well informed and takes no prisoners. Really showing up some of these idiot interviewers who can't be bothered to learn about the subject

ilovesooty · 23/06/2022 15:20

Octomore · 23/06/2022 15:14

which warning lights are those, exactly?

Proroguing parliament was one. Did you miss that?

Windrush detentions and deportations was another. Did you miss that as well?

Rewriting the ministerial code

Changing the law to allow the use of agency workers to break strike action

Apologies - the above was the post I meant to quote.

TullyApplebottom · 23/06/2022 15:20

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 23/06/2022 15:18

It’s always worth remembering that if MN was representative of the country at large, we’d have had Labour governments more or less forever

Its worth remembering that if we had fair voting we wouldn’t have a right wing fascist government.

Wut

Playplayaway · 23/06/2022 15:21

Kay Burley's interview reminds me of my teen dd when she's got a bee in her bonnet about something ridiculous, and I have to stand my ground and just keep stating the facts until she burns herself out 😆

ColadhSamh · 23/06/2022 15:25

Ash Sakar anyone?

twitter.com/weelad00/status/1539283363613356032 Giving it socks!

TullyApplebottom · 23/06/2022 15:26

ColadhSamh · 23/06/2022 15:25

Ash Sakar anyone?

twitter.com/weelad00/status/1539283363613356032 Giving it socks!

😂

ApplesandBunions · 23/06/2022 15:26

TullyApplebottom · 23/06/2022 15:16

It’s always worth remembering that if MN was representative of the country at large, we’d have had Labour governments more or less forever. In fact we probably wouldn’t have elections at all - who needs them when there’s so obviously only one correct result?
reality looks a little different 😏

I always wonder why people think MN skewing more left wing than voters as a whole is a particularly salient point. It seems to be brought up quite frequently. Website catering primarily to the fairly young and female and without a high number of the pensioners on which the Tory vote is based leans the same way as that section of the electorate does. Well, yeah! What next, pensioner forums skew more Tory than the general population?

Roussette · 23/06/2022 15:26

TullyApplebottom · 23/06/2022 15:16

It’s always worth remembering that if MN was representative of the country at large, we’d have had Labour governments more or less forever. In fact we probably wouldn’t have elections at all - who needs them when there’s so obviously only one correct result?
reality looks a little different 😏

It's great to think I'm on a caring forum like MN. Good to hear.

Mick Lynch is great. The thing is about truth and knowledge, it can flow. If you have truth and knowledge, you don't have to remember what you have just said because you just know.
And this is why he is making a name for himself. He has that. We are so used to our weaselly government with bluff and soundbites and interviews where you come away from it thinking... WTAF did that person say. Not Mick Lynch, he has facts and is calm.

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 23/06/2022 15:27

More people didn’t vote Conservative than did. And yet we have a Conservative government. Even when the majority didn’t vote for them.

www.statista.com/statistics/1084308/uk-general-election-results/

BurnDownTheDiscoHangTheDJ · 23/06/2022 15:31

Mick Lynch: The Facts.

Mick Lynch
TullyApplebottom · 23/06/2022 15:32

Roussette · 23/06/2022 15:26

It's great to think I'm on a caring forum like MN. Good to hear.

Mick Lynch is great. The thing is about truth and knowledge, it can flow. If you have truth and knowledge, you don't have to remember what you have just said because you just know.
And this is why he is making a name for himself. He has that. We are so used to our weaselly government with bluff and soundbites and interviews where you come away from it thinking... WTAF did that person say. Not Mick Lynch, he has facts and is calm.

“Caring”
there it is again. Good people all think the same thing, don’t they?

Strugglingtodomybest · 23/06/2022 15:35

ColadhSamh · 23/06/2022 15:25

Ash Sakar anyone?

twitter.com/weelad00/status/1539283363613356032 Giving it socks!

Thanks for that link, she summed it up perfectly. It's also worth remembering that we, as women, have had to fight for everything we've got, it wasn't just handed to us by the nice men at the top.

TullyApplebottom · 23/06/2022 15:35

ApplesandBunions · 23/06/2022 15:26

I always wonder why people think MN skewing more left wing than voters as a whole is a particularly salient point. It seems to be brought up quite frequently. Website catering primarily to the fairly young and female and without a high number of the pensioners on which the Tory vote is based leans the same way as that section of the electorate does. Well, yeah! What next, pensioner forums skew more Tory than the general population?

It means it’s unreliable as a bellweather of public opinion. On this issue too I should think. Most workers out there know perfectly well they will never get anything like the pay rise lynch is arguing for without changing jobs, and their sympathy will be limited - his so called plausible manner notwithstanding

PeterPomegranate · 23/06/2022 15:36

RevoltingHumanHead · 23/06/2022 14:51

The whole Mick Lynch thing of the past couple of days really demonstrates what a narrow range of people we see on our TVs and hear on our radios. 9 times out of 10 it's media trained, privately educated politicians and media trained privately educated pundits. It's been so refreshing to listen to someone who isn't either of these things.

Yes. And how uniform their approach to interviews is - the questions that are asked, the responses, the ‘dance’.

There’s a lot I disagree with with Mick Lynch and the RMT but he’s not playing the same game. He knows what his position is, he knows his stuff, he answers the questions concisely and he’s not drawn in to the points other people are trying to make.

I suspect a lot of commentators will be adjusting their approach.

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 23/06/2022 15:36

@TullyApplebottom On the subject of caring, perhaps you’d like to list the caring things this government have done?

Notonthestairs · 23/06/2022 15:37

He's winning supporters because he's knowledgeable about his brief, he's focused on getting his message across, and he answers questions without resorting to flannel.

Frankly all politicians should be watching and learning. If they all knew more about their given areas they might be worth listening to.

We have an extraordinary trade union history - it's not an exaggeration to say they've won us many of the T&Cs of employment we see as standard today.

Some might like to diminish that track record but only fools would take those rights for granted. Employers didn't give them out of the goodness of their hearts.

justanoldhack · 23/06/2022 15:39

Big fan here!

Octomore · 23/06/2022 15:40

Employers didn't give them out of the goodness of their hearts.

It's amazing that this even needs stating, but many people seem to have forgotten how hard won our rights were

JassyRadlett · 23/06/2022 15:41

ApplesandBunions · 23/06/2022 15:26

I always wonder why people think MN skewing more left wing than voters as a whole is a particularly salient point. It seems to be brought up quite frequently. Website catering primarily to the fairly young and female and without a high number of the pensioners on which the Tory vote is based leans the same way as that section of the electorate does. Well, yeah! What next, pensioner forums skew more Tory than the general population?

Yes, 'online group skews politically in line with its membership demographic ' isn't the shattering political insight some think it is.

The interesting thing about support for the current strikes is that across both men and women, the recent polling (Comres I think) showed that the majority think the strikes are justified in all age demographics except 55+. So the majority of the working population thinks they've got a case, which I thought interesting.

ApplesandBunions · 23/06/2022 15:41

TullyApplebottom · 23/06/2022 15:35

It means it’s unreliable as a bellweather of public opinion. On this issue too I should think. Most workers out there know perfectly well they will never get anything like the pay rise lynch is arguing for without changing jobs, and their sympathy will be limited - his so called plausible manner notwithstanding

Are people saying it is?

As for the strikes, younger people are more likely to support them than pensioners so it's not a surprise that MN with a majority working age demographic would skew the same way. If you were to go to a space primarily populated by pensioners you would probably see more opposition.

Interestingly, support rises in all age groups when the reasoning for the strikes is explained, including older people, as per Ipsos. This means Mick Lynch having the opportunity to do so on TV is threatening to people who don't like it, which makes some of the more batshit interviewing we've seen more easily explicable.

GreenLunchBox · 23/06/2022 15:42

KangFang · 23/06/2022 13:31

Oh fuck they'll be digging for dirt - for sure.

Yep, he said they've been rummaging through his bins and hounding his neighbours
twitter.com/mettlesome_teri/status/1539896005541466118?t=zNaxnoQvgJ9eEJ3uN5b5EA&s=19

ApplesandBunions · 23/06/2022 15:44

Yes, 'online group skews politically in line with its membership demographic ' isn't the shattering political insight some think it is

I always think it's quite interesting that a group comprised primarily of working age women attracts such scrutiny on this point.

Roussette · 23/06/2022 15:45

“Caring” there it is again. Good people all think the same thing, don’t they?

Did I say that?
Nah