Mick Lynch

[KangFang]

Anyone else here loving his work?

Isn't it just.

It's lovely to see someone answer a question with actual facts for once. Makes you realise how much you've missed it...

Do you moan at feminists who don;t represent men?

Why don't you join a union if you want to be treated properly, why moan that others are being represented instead of looking into why you aren't?

I said that most of what you had written was bullshit. I made no comment about you on any personal level.

I'm on a workplace union committee. The idea that striking is anything other than an absolute last resort for workers in any industry is just not true. People are terrified, terrified of striking and will only consider this kind of action when they've been repeatedly pushed past tolerable limits.

Forcing people into a position where they have no option other than strike action is bringing whatever to its knees far faster than people striking.

As a person who lived through the 1970s, I think people absolutely should be striking to get fair wages. Better that
profits are smaller than that they are reliant on not paying staff a fair wage.
It's said that strong unions help to make societies more equal, and I can well believe it.

@TullyApplebottom @Wouldloveanother

Could you please stop quoting each other? The page is becoming unreadable.

We all have attention spans that mean we are capable of following a discussion without the quotes.

which warning lights are those, exactly?

What is so great about someone who can hold the whole country to ransom?

What skills do you need to grind the country to a halt simply by telling your members to go on strike?

I and anyone else over the age of 10 could do that.

THIS 👏

are you honestly suggesting that a Labour movement representing a very narrow sectional interest is comparable to advocacy for basic rights for half the human race?
seriously?

I support him; he's great. Doesn't get intimidated by the likes of Piers Morgan. Yep, I'd want him in my corner. (I'm "wealthy" and right of centre, by the way)

Definitely and it's not about left and right (as previous posters had indicated), it's about backing workers.

The Thatcher years have poisoned debate in this country (because of the likes of Murdoch and the Mail) by pointing anyone who espouses a pro-union position as a Marxist and any hint of a strike a return to the 70s. Ridiculous sensationalism, while in the real world the rich get richer.

I'm old enough to remember as well. He didn't sound anything like the 70s trade union people.

@Changes17 Totally agree.

However, my view is that profit should be removed from the calculation entirely when it comes to public transport. Having a functioning public transport system and road network is a public good that we all benefit from. It should not be in the hands of private companies.

We (society) pay for the building of roads because it is acknowledged that these are things we all need, even those that don't drive will rely on the road network to some degree, for the transport of goods and workers. Why do we not apply the same logic to the rail network?

Lets stop thinking about it in terms of subsidies etc. and acknowledge that a fit for purpose rail network benefits us all, even if we don't commute by train ourselves.

It should be publicly owned for the public benefit, and it's workers should be paid a fair, living wage for the work they do.

BA have voted to go out now.
Oh

I mean, I don't know you, but do you honestly believe that this is the process? A strike is the result of one person thinking, sure might as well, get everyone out, what harm? Could be fun! And then everyone downs tools?

I like anyone who riles the right wing media and posters - more ML's please 😊

You mean asking for an above inflation pay rise at a time when inflation is already more than four times above central bank target didn’t bring any memories back?
ok.

which warning lights are those, exactly?

Proroguing parliament was one. Did you miss that?

Windrush detentions and deportations was another. Did you miss that as well?

are you honestly suggesting that a Labour movement representing a very narrow sectional interest is comparable to advocacy for basic rights for half the human race?
seriously?

Yeah, because they fought for fair working conditions, fair pay, holidays, equal opportunities, disabilities, diversity. So yeah these are basic rights. and there’s 4 million people in unions, so hardly a narrow section of society. And then there’s those people who want to be in unions, but darent be or they’ll face the sack. Move into the 21st century dear.

Try talking to a Millennial. You sound so stuck in the past. And I’m 58, so not young either

I and anyone else over the age of 10 could do that.

@ILoveAllRainbowsx Could you describe the process which would allow an 11 year old child to call an industrial strike? I fear you may not have a firm grasp of reality the mechanisms.

It’s always worth remembering that if MN was representative of the country at large, we’d have had Labour governments more or less forever. In fact we probably wouldn’t have elections at all - who needs them when there’s so obviously only one correct result?
reality looks a little different 😏

And rewriting the ministerial code.

And changing the law to use agency workers to break strike action.

So a man advocating for the interests of one small group of workers is the same as, say, the Pankhursts?
that’s quite a take. He’s really done a number on you, eh