Denied boarding due to excess alcohol. What happens next when abroad?

[Cheeseandlobster]

I will try to keep the details vague and I know this isn't an aibu but I am posting for traffic

I flew home from holiday recently. At check in there was a woman in a wheelchair who looked unwell travelling with her dp and 2 young children. She was at our gate lying on the floor and her partner said she was drunk and had been the whole week they were away. He said he had had enough. The gate staff asked cabin crew who denied the woman boarding. At this stage her dp was openly crying and people were being really kind helping him to source spare nappies for his youngest and giving water etc. One woman in particular was being incredibly kind and helpful.

However the situation has been playing on my mind. She told cabin crew he was violent to her. The helpful lady said she had witnessed the woman physically going for her dp. But she did have a bruise on her face which he said was caused by falling over drunk. She was also verbally aggressive to staff.

So her dp and children boarded and she was left behind. Her dp said she had money but I don't know how much. I am certain insurance won't pay out for a hotel etc but she was obviously very vulnerable and it has been playing on my mind. I don't know whether the airline would have had a duty of care but the last I saw of her was her slumped sideways in the wheelchair at the gate. Violent or not she must have been very frightened and I don't know whether the airline would have looked after her. Does anyone know whether they would have ensured she was safe?

I read the first post and imemdiately thought - this will turn into blaming and attacking the father and sure enough, true to form - it did!

So twisted to me how so many will only ever view men through a negative lens and women through a positive lens and only ever ascribe negative intentions and motivations to men and positive ones to women. The way people then twist the scenario and their thinking into knots to fit their view that man = bad and women = good and victim is quite scary. They completely lack critical thinking skills. It makes you realize how many people are walking around you in daily life completely unable to make sense of what is around them in a logical and factual way.

Anything to prove the man wrong hey.

This is a great "How to Blame the Victim" thread. Should be stickied somewhere so whenever there is a post it can be brought out to give posters more ideas on how to attack the victim.

Misandry is likely why OP posted it. She knew it would be a pile on the man and judge and attack him thread. Don't know if it is a true story or she just invented it to suit her disgust for men but if it is true I hope that father didn't experience all this judgement and hate in person in trying to get his kids home safely. Hopefully OP kept her nasty remarks and misandric views to herself.

@notimagain PP was asking why posters seem to believe the man. That was my answer to them... a drunk woman at the boarding gates is a very possible scenario so no need to look for zebras.

Nope just statistics tell you it's more likely to be him abusing her, spiking her drink, 'playing to an audience'

@Cheeseandlobster I'd be concerned to. Hopefully someone made sure she was safe & looked after.

And this is why men don't come come forward.

You seriously can't see that the man could be being abused.

My DSC nearly ended up dead because of this sort of attitude, but hey must have been the mans fault. That's how this goes right.

Nope just statistics tell you it's more likely to be him abusing her, spiking her drink, 'playing to an audience'

Who's recording these statistics that there are more men out there drugging their partners and 'playing to an audience' while returning from a holiday than women with alcohol issues getting drunk and incapable?

Nope just statistics tell you it's more likely to be him abusing her, spiking her drink, 'playing to an audience'

What statistics would they be?

And how did you spike someone's drink first thing in the morning? How much alcohol would you have to put in someone's coffee without them noticing, for them to be in that state, and advising airport staff?

The stats might say that women are more likely to be abused than men, but not that it's more likely that a mother's morning drink was heavily spiked than that she got herself into that condition.

Advising= abusing

@JuneJubilee could you link the statistics?

If you' d been a child in that situation you'd understand. The children need to be the priority.

Absolute bollocks. “Statistically” it’s far more likely that if a family present at the airport with a tearful father and abusive, apparently extremely drunk mother, and the father says the mother is inebriated and he wants to get the children safely home without her, that the father is telling the truth. He may be lying, of course, and may be hoping she dies of undeclared diabetic hypoglycaemia, or a head injury, or drug poisoning, but would be taking a huge risk to bring her to the airport if that’s the case.

You think a random man could just go through passport control and security with two children, where would he get their passports, how would he explain their names if he'd managed to steal their passports, how about their tickets, when I'm sure with what was going on officials would be having a close look.

I wonder what people made of Prince Louis trying to hit his mother at the jubilee? I thought he was a little boy who was a bit bored and overwhelmed but I guess some on here would be worrying his mother is the victim of DV.

That poor child was having a much more trying experience than Louis so I agree it isn't a strange or suspicious reaction.

Nope just statistics tell you it's more likely to be him abusing her, spiking her drink, 'playing to an audience'

Absolute bollocks.

This thread is an absolute disgrace. Victim blaming at it's finest.

Some of you should watch Airline / Southwest. It was a docu style A and E show that followed Southwest airline supervisors around the airport as they dealt with various situations - including drunk and unruly passengers, irate people, medical emergencies, people denied boarding etc. Behaviour of women and men is pretty similar.

@ancientgran

I agree, some ideas are really bizarre.

According to some it seems bloke's cunning kidnap plan apparently involves whole family vacating holiday accommodation, travelling en-mass to airport, possibly presenting at bag drop/check in, possibly ( certainly at many European airports) presenting passports to police, struggling to get whole group through security, then negotiate gate staff , and only, then, finally, disposing of the wife at the aircraft door when crew refuse travel. "Ahh haa" he says, jobs done...

If it really was a kidnap kids /dump partner plot it would have been much easier for the bloke just to leave the partner at the accommodation...save a lot of hassle.

Have to say it still sounds to me as if the husband was in a crap situation but was trying his hardest to get everybody home .....but I guess those sort of theories are not popular with some around here.

My mum was a violent drunk, absolutely vicious. And holidays were the worst.

Lots of women are alcoholics and lots of women are not nice when they drink.

Lots of women can't see that women can be abusive.

That says that exact thing? No. You're being ridiculous and hysterical.

Noting that the woman may be the victim and there may be more than meets the eye is not doing what that poster said.

What a stupid comment.

You could just as easily ask how someone manages to be that drunk first thing in the morning.

Spiking or drugging someone would take seconds. I'm not saying it's likely he did that, but it's very easily done.

Late response but yes, sadly very very much agree..

We already had the “is prince Louis copying what he has seen at home?” That came just after the jubilee.
It’s amazing how many 2+2=5 there are on this thread.

Well said. 100% agree.

Again, go look up Brian Laundrie and Gabby Petito.

When she went missing and footage of them at a traffic stop was published, there were thousands of pickmes and handmaidens (along with lots of men) who delighted in saying this was a case of a woman abusing a man. The police even thought so. On the surface, that's what it looked like. He had scratches on his arms, he was calm while she was hysterical, she admitted to being 'mean'.

Over the following days, it came out that they'd been spotted fighting, that one witness had contacted the police because he'd seen Brian locking Gabby out of her van and yelling at her. It turned out that by 'mean', all Gabby meant was asking him to not be a disgusting pig and put dirty boots all over the van. Still, people defended him.

He literally had to murder her before it became apparent he was the abuser.

If you look at a situation where one partner is accusing the other and automatically assume the victim is who you think it is, you're an idiot. Nobody is saying he was definitely the abuser, but there are way too many red flags in OP's story to just accept the surface-level version of things.

Drunk mother with baby kicked off BA flight

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British mother arrested after falling over drunk in Gibraltar airport departure lounge while in charge of her three young children

Drunk mum abused passengers on flight

Drunk mum attacked husband on EasyJet flight after Sangria binge at Palma Airport

More poor, vulnerable, abused mothers drugged and dragged to the airport? That last one is interesting. She blamed anxiety over flying for why she got drunk and decked her husband in front of their son. Poor lamb.