Tories hit new low

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The Tories are planning to introduce a Bill of Rights which limits and removes human rights. If there was ever any moral high ground for the UK to tell other countries how to manage their affairs, this ends that. How dare the world expect us to honour the basic human rights of people?

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-61887933

I can't believe there is not widespread outrage about this. I honestly don't.

Things have been leading in this direction: the gradual erosion of our rights to stand up for what we believe in, the race to the bottom, the distraction of the masses with bread and circuses (Jubilee, look - pretty dresses! etc.) ...

What an absolute shower.

And yet, we lap it up as most of us are so weary and resigned to being treated like this by this appalling, morally bankrupt, despicable excuse for a government.

Can I make my prediction now? Warning: it's fucking depressing.

The government will get this through Parliament in short order and continue to merrily fuck up the country as we approach the next GE. They will use this new legislation to their advantage and will make a pledge in their manifesto to offer a referendum on reinstating the death penalty. By turning the GE into a single issue election - just like the last one where it all boiled down to Brexit - and an ad campaign playing on hot button crimes such as paedophilia/child sex abuse, rape, and murder where they can paint Labour as soft on crime, they'll win it. Then they'll have their referendum and win that too.

Further predictions include pushing ahead with the proposed boundary changes for constituencies which will make it easier for the Conservatives to win any election, making it more difficult to get these fuckers out.

Yep, this new Bill of “rights” will also block women from forcing the police to investigate cases of rape, and stop victims of terror and disasters like Hillsborough (and Grenfell?) seeking justice And stop people with health problems objecting to Do Not Resuscitate orders. (Source I’m screenshot)

This part from the article in the op is really worrying

“Law Society president I Stephanie Boyce, who represents solicitors, said the package was on a collision course with the rest of the law.

"The bill will create an acceptable class of human-rights abuses in the United Kingdom," she said.
"It is a lurch backwards for British justice. Authorities may begin to consider some rights violations as acceptable, because these could no longer be challenged under the Bill of Rights, despite being against the law.”

Thank you op for raising awareness of this.

@Jott The Elections Bill passed in April is also going to do some damage by blocking people without access to photo ID from voting.

Info here:
www.prospectmagazine.co.uk/magazine/the-electoral-commission-is-now-under-government-control-fear-for-uk-democracy-john-pullinger-interview-elections-act

From the article:

”It happened so quietly you might have missed it, but this spring UK democracy suffered a severe setback. The Elections Bill—which slid onto the statute book in late April—contains the most draconian electoral provisions seen in living memory. It will introduce photo ID in polling stations, which could effectively disenfranchise millions of Britons. It will also bring the Electoral Commission under a form of government control.”

“The Elections Act may be more serious even than this other legislation, because no matter how alarming a government’s programme, there is always the possibility that you can boot them out. In chipping away at that principle, the act takes on a uniquely sinister character. It represents a power grab in the truest sense of the term.”

They’re not going to reintroduce the fucking death penalty 🙄 stop scaremongering

It’s been a long time coming but it’s horrifying.

Well, we have a Prime Minister who refuses to resign no matter how compromised he is, and is continuing to try to push through legislation that would prevent citizens from having any recourse to justice or government, including the right to free protest. There is a word for people who do that.

sadly we also have a population who are sleepwalking right into it.

Reintroducing the death penalty wouldn’t happen as it’s too expensive to administer and the payouts when they get it wrong would be exorbitant.

i can see why they might want to stop all the activists from stopping the country from working. They’d be votes in that!

From Twitter

“A really excellent example of why survivors of rape and domestic abuse can’t afford to lose the Human Rights Act.

Black cab rapist John Worboys would not be in jail without it.”

mobile.twitter.com/JennSelby/status/1539521157136846850

More info in screenshot.

The new Bill of Rights will not allow victims to hold the police accountable if police do not properly investigate the crime against you. Rape conviction statistics are already awful, and this will only make things worse. Likewise domestic abuse.

@RudsyFarmer would there be votes in that though? Because unilaterally stopping “activists” (unions) from striking for pay and conditions means the government are in control of working conditions, and no one would be able to hold them accountable for poor/dangerous working conditions and below living-wage salaries/zero hours contracts.

Which is all well and good when it’s other people’s jobs, but when it’s yours or your children’s, not so great.

i can see why they might want to stop all the activists from stopping the country from working. They’d be votes in that!

Only from people who'd almost certainly vote tory anyway, and it's hardly going to be high up on most people's priorities as it is.

Nothing surprises me any more. Dh keeps talking about moving to another country.

I don't think the death penalty will be brought back, but I don't think it's as outlandish a suggestion as all that. Priti Patel has said before that she is in favour of it. There are other senior Tories who share her views. Rees-Mogg would probably bring back the Tyburn Tree if he thought he could get away with it. The public appetite for it is, as ever, disturbingly much higher than reasonable people assume.

I dislike this new trend - the pandemic has normalised it - of dismissing people's raising of unpalatable topics as "scaremongering". This is a discussion forum. People are allowed to discuss things and explore possibilities, even things that you find scary

We did 2 years ago and I'm so so glad we did!
It's terrifying what is happening In the uk

'I don't think the death penalty will be brought back, but I don't think it's as outlandish a suggestion as all that'

I honestly wouldn't put anything past these fuckers. They are absolutely without any scruples or morality. I think you're right that shockingly authoritarian policies are way more popular with the public than some of us might like to think

They don't need to actually do it, just make it an issue again. I wouldn't put it past these cunts.

WTF. That’s all I have to say on the matter.

Is this totally bad or good. Is it reasonable to allow a resident of another country accused of rape to spin out the appeals process for so long they escape justice?
That country has a perfectly sensible legal system. Sweden is not a dictatorship.
Is it reasonable that we cannot deport illegal immigrants who have been found guilty of very serious crimes?

We already defined human rights, Churchill did it after the second world war and other countries signed up to it thus creating the European Court of Human Rights....

I honestly think the UK Bill of Rights will be a vote winner yes. I think the left has certainly captured the online platforms but when it’s votes on paper the stories will get in again. There’s an appetite for it.

@hummerbird Whether you think the treatment/proposed treatment of migrants is reasonable or unreasonable, do you think it’s reasonable for the government to reduce British people’s rights (as outlined above) in order to achieve this?

DM and all the DOld biddies (male, female and other) at our (White, well heeled area) are thrilled to bits as apparently this means Rwanda deportations are go.

So agree & with all pp very little on the news/radio it seems every day we set a new low I don’t understand why the electorate isn’t demonstrating I know it’s an overused phrase but it really is becoming a race to the bottom, everyday brings more horror from this government I marvel at the most talentless, stupid, venal & self serving cabinet ever who would struggle finding employment anywhere yet these fuckers are destroying the country without a peep, it’s depressing & frightening we are sleep walking backwards into even more abuses of power.

@RudsyFarmer The problem with people relying on “the papers” or other mainstream media, is the control that the conservatives have over them (case in point, the vanishing Carrie Johnson job story).

It’s effective, yes, but it’s not moral, and with the increased availability of information online which counteracts the governments’s preferred line, it’s starting to look more and more ridiculous.

If people in the poorest part of the UK (Northern Ireland) are able to access photo ID ahead of voting free of charge, so will those in England, Scotland and Wales.

There is no reason to think it won't be free or that it disenfranchises people to any great degree.