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To point out that the PM tried to give his mistress £100k public sector job

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BadAtMaths2 · 19/06/2022 11:53

No not that one. Carrie when they were having an affair and he was foreign secretary. Wanted to appoint her yo £100k job she wasn't qualified for and without declaring an interest. Story was in The Tumes but has disappeared. Super injunction??

To point out that the PM tried to give his mistress £100k public sector job
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AmaryIlis · 19/06/2022 16:19

Hawkins001 · 19/06/2022 13:06

Just because you agree to go along with x, does not mean he intended to follow through on the promise, and boris could of been leading the friend on.

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Must try a LOT harder. That is no excuse. The only response anyone should have to a 'friend' who makes a request like that is either to tell them to stop being so bloody stupid, or to go to the police. At the very least Guppy's intended victim was entitled to protection.

And it's "could have", not "could of".

Notonthestairs · 19/06/2022 16:21

LakieLady · 19/06/2022 16:14

I expect Johnson had a chat with his chum Murdoch and got the story pulled.

After all, he can do that now.

Murdoch interference

Interesting article. I hadn't known that the ban had been lifted.

donquixotedelamancha · 19/06/2022 16:21

Guppy was a long time friend of Boris's (from Eton and Oxford). He may have had second thoughts about helping someone arrange to beat someone up but the fact he had any conversation about it at all is shocking.

It wasn't second thoughts. The victim was warned and the police contacted after a journalist recorded Johnson openly arranging the assault, so it didn't go ahead.

It's hardly the first violent incident Johnson has been allegedly involved with, just the first one actually recorded on tape.

AmaryIlis · 19/06/2022 16:22

Clavinova · 19/06/2022 13:09

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g
He did a poor job as London Mayor

YouGov 2016
As London awaits the results for who will be Boris Johnson's successor, new YouGov research reveals the public verdict on his eight years as London Mayor.
His approval rating has been remarkably consistent during his second term as Mayor, since 2012, and has been drastically higher than most national politicians' throughout. In hindsight, the majority of Londoners (52%) say he has done a good job, while 29% say he hasn't performed well.

That was before we knew the full facts including, for instance, how many millions he had wasted on the idiotic Garden Bridge and that ridiculously expensive failed Routemaster. Totally irrelevant now.

AmaryIlis · 19/06/2022 16:26

Clavinova · 19/06/2022 13:33

EveryName
I'm always amazed the GuppyGate-scandal where Boris Johnson was recorded secretly discussing helping an old Etonian friend to have a journalist beaten up doesn't keep cropping up. It's easy to look up and I can't believe anyone can listen to the recording and still think that Boris Johnson is a person fit to be prime minister.

The main point being that Johnson did not supply his friend with the address. The tape recording was edited by journalists in any case so we don't know exactly how the conversation went or what they left out.

Guppy 2013
As we all know, Mr Johnson never provided me with any address and it is perfectly clear from the tape recording in question that he was simply placating a friend he considered to be letting off steam.

order-order.com/2013/03/27/darius-guppy-breaks-boris-silence/

No, the main point is that he didn't put the phone down the moment that request was made and alert the police.

WinterDeWinter · 19/06/2022 16:27

picklemewalnuts · 19/06/2022 12:56

I remember at the time he got in, hoping that he was cleverer than he looked. I hoped the buffoon business was just an act, and he was actually a really clever operator. Sadly I think I was wrong.

The buffoonery is an act - there are lots of stories from people who've known him and seen the cold steel in his eye when the mask has slipped. Also one where he was caught pretending to make up a speech on the fly which he'd actually already prepped, in order to seem 'shambolic but very clever with it'.

I think he is clever - but in a reptilian way, and only in pursuit of project Boris.

donquixotedelamancha · 19/06/2022 16:28

Carrie when they were having an affair and he was foreign secretary. Wanted to appoint her yo £100k job she wasn't qualified for and without declaring an interest.

Compared to paying a hooker with public money, as mayor of London, this is low level corruption.

He has just won a confidence vote after behaviour which puts these two incidents in the shade. For whatever reason he enjoys substantial support no matter what he does.

SpinningRoundRightRound · 19/06/2022 16:34

AmaryIlis · 19/06/2022 16:05

If it is a superinjunction, I suspect it'll be lifted for this reason. The law isn't keen on them anyway, let alone when they can't achieve anything.

Given that both the Mail and the Times printed this, it's pretty certain that they checked the background before going to Press so my money's on it being correct. I wonder if it had anything to do with Geidt going?

Carole Cadwalladr's recent libel victory using a public interest reporting defence was very important.

That can't really be emphasised enough right now.

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/commentisfree/2022/jun/19/arron-banks-set-out-to-crush-me-in-court-instead-my-quest-for-the-facts-was-vindicated

Notonthestairs · 19/06/2022 16:34

I'm not sure there is such a thing as low level corruption, its just corruption.

vinoandbrie · 19/06/2022 16:35

Could it be there is a more general injunction to prevent stories about Carrie Johnson, and this story got caught up in that bigger piece and had to be pulled?

Tilltheend99 · 19/06/2022 16:40

picklemewalnuts · 19/06/2022 11:58

He's the most unethical man imaginable, based purely on his private life.

How anyone voted for him, I can't imagine. Any questions yesterday was farcical about it. Someone claimed he was ethical because he delivered Brexit as he promised. Madness.

This

He has form for this kind of behaviour.

Sad thing is he will probably do the same to Carrie eventually.

Parallels with Henry VIII but he can’t chop anyone’s heads off.

LakieLady · 19/06/2022 16:40

Octothorpe · 19/06/2022 14:50

£37m + on the Garden Bridge fiasco, you say?

Remember his wizard wheeze a few years ago to connect N. Ireland and Scotland with a bridge or a tunnel? And the feasibility study that found it would cost in the region of 335 BILLION for his back-of-the-fag-packet bridge idea? What larks, eh?

As others have so eloquently put it, he’s a revolting, lying chancer who drags everything and everyone down to his level, and we’re all paying the price. And everyone knew what he was, right from the get-go. It’s written into his DNA.

And then there was the money he spaffed on water cannon that can't legally be used and, iirc, ended up on a scrapheap somewhere.

AmaryIlis · 19/06/2022 16:41

Clavinova · 19/06/2022 13:45

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g
the ludicrous Garden Bridge project

I quite liked the idea of the Garden Bridge, I enjoyed going to events during the London Olympics and I've travelled on the Emirates Air Line several times - fab.

Do you live in London? There was literally no point whatsoever to the Garden Bridge. It would have been between two bridges that are only 500 metres apart and ruined one of the most iconic views in the world from Waterloo Bridge due to the obstructions caused by the proposed commercial buildings on the bridge. It would have involved destroying established trees and green space on the South Bank for no benefit - it was going to join the South Bank to Temple tube station, which is hardly an area that people flock to as it is essentially the area of the High Court and Middle and Inner Temple. As usual with Johnson, the tendering arrangements were distinctly dodgy, and it relied on continued commercial funding that simply was never going to happen because there was very little commercial interest in it.

And it cost the public purse well over £40 million. I know that pails into insignificance compared with the billions Johnson has wasted subsequently, but it's a shame no-one saw it for the warning it was.

Do you think any of that justifies something that you "quite liked"?

tobee · 19/06/2022 16:42

vinoandbrie · 19/06/2022 16:35

Could it be there is a more general injunction to prevent stories about Carrie Johnson, and this story got caught up in that bigger piece and had to be pulled?

Fits with the mystery of the Abba party etc not seeming to result in much of an investigation

TheHumanSatsuma · 19/06/2022 16:42

😂

donquixotedelamancha · 19/06/2022 16:43

I'm not sure there is such a thing as low level corruption, its just corruption.

I would suggest that giving your GF a job is less overt than going to a hooker during the day, taking her on trips and claiming the expenses back. Both are less overt than explicitly saying to parliament that you followed the rules while having pissed-up parties.

While it's a sad state of affairs when you have to lie and sneak to engage in cc orruptio. Its still better than wneg you can get away with it openly.

The' giving Carrie a job' days were a paragon of rectitude compared to now.

AmaryIlis · 19/06/2022 16:44

Clavinova · 19/06/2022 13:53

EveryName
Any normal person wouldn't have entertained that line of conversation at all. That tape shows what his character is

I found this tape recording of John McDonnell more worrying -

www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-politics-42682854

Why did Keir Starmer demand that Rishi Sunak resign for drinking an orange juice in the cabinet room and yet he supported John McDonnell becoming Chancellor?

Do give over. Are you seriously going to waste time trying to defend outright corruption? If so, try explaining why, rather than wasting time with these ridiculous trawls around the internet for fruitless attempts to distract attention.

TheHumanSatsuma · 19/06/2022 16:44

TheHumanSatsuma · 19/06/2022 16:42

😂

That was for “ more superinfection than superinjuction” btw!

Notonthestairs · 19/06/2022 16:45

Much of the Times article was covered in the longer original Mail article from February this year.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10480695/Carrie-Johnson-uncovered-Book-LORD-ASHCROFT-thats-set-Westminster-alight.html

The article is based on Lord Ashcroft's book about Carrie Johnson. No legal action was taken against publication of the book and it is still in print. The Daily Mail then published excerpts and no action was taken.

4intheCorner · 19/06/2022 16:46

Roussette · 19/06/2022 16:08

I wonder if it had anything to do with Geidt going?

That is a very interesting thought. I think there is far more to the Geidt departure than we know about.

I watched a Tiktok last week that analysed Geidt's resignation letter, the creator noted that one paragraph was not about past issues, but what was to come. I'll see if I can find the video.

AmaryIlis · 19/06/2022 16:49

Clavinova · 19/06/2022 14:22

wellhelloitsme
@ Clavinova
It's nice for you that you enjoyed projects like the garden bridge while in one of the richest countries in the world there are children going to school and bed hungry.
It was a ridiculous use of public funds that could only have been dreamt up by privileged and entitled people

Sadiq Khan appears to have spent £13m on plans for his own failed bridge project - even after scrapping Boris Johnson's bridge;

www.southwarknews.co.uk/news/khan-defends-huge-cost-estimate-for-scrapped-rotherhithe-bridge/

Last I saw, Sadiq Khan wasn't Prime Minister or running for Prime Minister. Nor has he tried to give a £100K a year publicly funded job to his mistress.

ilovesooty · 19/06/2022 16:50

ApplesandBunions · 19/06/2022 14:50

Why do Boris supporters always come back with "well labour do xyz" when it doesn't change what a specific Tory has done? It's a strange style of debate.

It's called whataboutery. Basically means they don't have anything to say in defence of the person they'd like to be able to stick up for so they want to try and focus elsewhere instead.

Some posters employ whataboutery as their sole attempt at what passes for debate in their world.

AmaryIlis · 19/06/2022 16:53

CounsellorTroi · 19/06/2022 14:58

People who think that Keir Starmer is too boring to be PM get exactly what they deserve in Johnson.

I would be absolutely delighted with a boring PM, so long as he was competent. The only thing that makes Johnson interesting is waiting for the next stinking dungheap of corruption, lies and outright incompetence to emerge.

ilovesooty · 19/06/2022 16:53

Snugglepumpkin · 19/06/2022 15:19

It makes me so sad that even with all this, he is still a better alternative than a party who deny the existence of half of the human race as a distinct biological category with rights of their own.

It says a lot about the state of our politicians when the bar is that low & they still can't reach it.

Here we go again...

viques · 19/06/2022 16:55

Cornettoninja · 19/06/2022 12:39

It doesn’t really matter if she was engaged in an undeclared relationship with the foreign secretary.

Though it does beg the question of whether or not she would have been able to afford even better quality wallpaper had she been earning £100,000 ( plus expenses) .

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