To point out that the PM tried to give his mistress £100k public sector job

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No not that one. Carrie when they were having an affair and he was foreign secretary. Wanted to appoint her yo £100k job she wasn't qualified for and without declaring an interest. Story was in The Tumes but has disappeared. Super injunction??

The MailOnline printed it (editor Danny Groom) - "the Daily Mail was offered it, but turned it down" - according to the New European

Curious then

It was in the Mail Online. For a bit.

Got to love the Streisand effect

The most corrupt PM in modern British political history by a long mile and still useful idiots think he has some attributes to help our country in these difficult times. He cares only for himself - always has and always will.

@Clavinova, your behaviour on this thread is a classic example of your approach to every thread dealing with the latest disgraceful thing Johnson has done. You never actually address the central issue, you predominantly indulge in "Look over there" attempts based on obscure bits of cutting and pasting from iffy internet resources, or you tinker around the edges quibbling about something irrelevant.

But you simply cannot bring yourself actually to defend what Johnson has done. And you don't seem to realise how incredibly revealing that is. In its way, the fact that a supporter can't find a remotely convincing way of defending him is the strongest condemnation of all.

You can't polish a turd but you can spread your shit onto others to deflect. And what a turd he is. We’re treating immigrants like criminals and criminals like Prime Ministers.

#carriejohnson

You forgot to mention the 🍻. How can this be? Is the Labour party so mired in corruption that you're prepared to overlook it now? Keir's beer. I believe you mentioned it a few times in the past. 2009. Things were very different then. The government had not yet been hijacked by the pusillanimous graspers of Brexit and the public had not been so comprehensively deceived by the rabble that we are obliged to call a government. Poor Evening Standard. It used to be a real newspaper.

This sordid river runs deep . Isabell Oakeshott- Telegraph columnist and wife of Reform (Brexit) Party leader Richard Tice had this to say about Leave.EU's biggest backer £7.5 million Aaron Banks. In plain sight...

Happy Sugar Daddies day

WorriedMutha
@ Clavinova
How do we know she wasn't qualified for the Job?
The second witness says 'most of us thought she wasn't the right person because she was relatively inexperienced'

Does that mean some people thought she was qualified for the job? Presumably some people thought she was qualified for the £80,000 job as director of communications when she was appointed in that role as well?

donquixotedelamancha
It wasn't second thoughts. The victim was warned and the police contacted after a journalist recorded Johnson openly arranging the assault, so it didn't go ahead.

That's not correct - it wasn't a journalist who made the original recording - "the recording was made by Guppy’s one-time accomplice in the jewellery fraud" - Guppy's intended victim (who was a journalist) "learned of the call between Johnson and Guppy much later" - implied several years later as the recording came to light 3 years later.

balalake
So please Ian Blackford or Keir Starmer, raise the issue on Wednesday.

Ian Blackford has problems of his own -

www.mailplus.co.uk/edition/news/politics/192888/secret-recording-exposes-how-ian-blackford-directed-snp-group-to-back-partys-sex-pest-mp

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-61853621

Personal donations into Boris’s pocket Clav, not Tory party donations. And it is quite clear that those have taken place, under the guise of “expenses”.

I've always thought Brexit was Putin's biggest win.

Still unable to bring yourself to defend Johnson, @Clavinova? You know perfectly well that Clarrie's competence or otherwise was not the issue: even Johnson's allies could see that appointing her would be a serious abuse of ethics.

AmaryIlis
@ Clavinova, your behaviour on this thread is a classic example of your approach to every thread dealing with the latest disgraceful thing Johnson has done. You never actually address the central issue, you predominantly indulge in "Look over there" attempts based on obscure bits of cutting and pasting from iffy internet resources, or you tinker around the edges quibbling about something irrelevant.

"Iffy internet sources"

Do you include the BBC (x4), The Guardian, Reuters and Hansard in your list of "iffy internet sources"?

You can't blame me for correcting other posters' mistakes/false facts and I don't regard my posts as irrelevant at all - you may prefer an echo chamber.

Changechangychange
Personal donations into Boris’s pocket Clav, not Tory party donations. And it is quite clear that those have taken place, under the guise of “expenses”.

Lord Lebedev has lived in the UK since the age of 8 so unless you have some proof that he is a Russian spy/Putin ally then I can't see the problem.

And, yet again, you've managed to miss the entire point of my post, @Clavinova. You cannot seriously believe that constant attempts to divert attention to something about the Labour party or its members might or might not have done (let alone something in 2009, FFS) are relevant to Johnson's misconduct. You constantly demonstrate that you cannot find a simple fact or argument to excuse that.

Brexit and Trump were in their way signals to a despotic Putin that he could engage his own autocratic desires without pushback. The Conservatives in the UK aided and abetted him in that belief as much as they try to cover their tracks and repair their damage. Dirty rubles flushed through the system and party coffers. They have blood on their hands and whatever positions they now take can never be erased.

newnamethanks
You forgot to mention the 🍻. How can this be? Is the Labour party so mired in corruption that you're prepared to overlook it now? Keir's beer.

Did you hear Andrew Marr's 'joke' on LBC a few nights ago? He announced (in all seriousness) that Keir Starmer had received a fixed penalty notice - he had me fooled for a few moments.

AmaryIlis
(let alone something in 2009, FFS)

And yet Boris Johnson's school report and tape recordings from 1990 are perfectly acceptable.

"It's almost impossible to believe he exists in politics. It's as if we took everything that was ever bad about the UK, scraped it up off the floor, wrapped it in an old sausage skin and then taught it to make noises with its face"

Quote from Twitter today.

Clav - do you agree having an intimate relationship with an advisor/staff member is a breach of Ministerial Code?

Do you agree it looks particularly poor if the Minister concerned was the one recommending their lover for the job?

Why else did Hancock resign?

At least they’re on topic not lists of things that have nothing to do with the discussion taking place.

concentrate on convincing people that Carrie would have been an excellent chief of staff that was in the running for more than having an intimate knowledge of the contents of BJ’s y-fronts.

Good question. When I saw #CarrieGate trending on Twitter I thought she'd filed for divorce following some even more heinous than usual behaviour from the binbag full of custard we have the misfortune to call PM.

Is this another "dead cat"? You know, a shocking story blown up out to distract from something even worse? If so, I don't think my nerves can stand up to the shock of whatever is really going on 😬

Warning on twitter

BREAKING: Boris Johnson's spokesperson says he is very upset people won't stop talking about his super-injunction for #CarrieGate so please keep this a secret, okay? x

We’re not discussing the Labour Party. Start a thread about them if you want to talk about them @Clavinova.

This will not put any of PM Johnson's supporters off him. They know what he's like with women and public finances. It's another Jennifer Acuri story, only this time they got married.

They will not give a shit.

Exactly.

I'm rather astonished that repeatedly using whataboutery as a sole 'debating' tactic isn't contrary to talk guidelines. It's tiresome and disruptive.