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74 year old man, 26 year old vulnerable woman with learning disabilities

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SENmum22 · 15/06/2022 12:52

Nc for this.

I use TikTok and I've just come across an account on the home page which belongs to a married couple. The husband is 74 and the wife is 26 and has quite a significant learning disability.

They have a video up talking about how they met, the blokes daughter (who appears to have some special needs herself) brought her friend round three years ago (the now-wife) and asked if her dad would let her stay as she didn't want to go home.

Long story short they're now married and the wife has moved her younger sisters in with the bloke aswell, they also appear to have LD's.

The bloke claims that helping people with LD's has been his life's work. If so, he knows exactly how vulnerable they are and should know not to cross certain lines.

Overall the wife is an adult by law but intellectually she isnt and as the parent of a child with special needs the whole thing raises alarm bells for me and makes me feel incredibly uncomfortable. The power imbalance is huge and they can't have anything in common.

I'm not sure if I'm allowed to give the account name so I won't, but it's not difficult to find.

AIBU to think he is an exploitative old git?

OP posts:
TraceyLacey · 15/06/2022 20:33

Did you find a location OP? I found something in another tiktok.

SENmum22 · 15/06/2022 20:34

He's incredibly creepy. It's like he's fetishizing their relationship. If it was about genuine love and care what's the need to make such a big deal about the age gap himself, why does he need to make that the focal point of his account if its just a normal loving marriage.

My DH is 10 years my senior and it's not something that ever comes up because it's just not important. If he went around going "look at me, look at this young woman I've pulled, look at meeee" I would be seriously questioning his motives.

OP posts:
SENmum22 · 15/06/2022 20:35

TraceyLacey · 15/06/2022 20:33

Did you find a location OP? I found something in another tiktok.

I did yes, well not me personally but another MNer sent me some information

OP posts:
Rubyroseyposey · 15/06/2022 20:55

SENmum22 · 15/06/2022 20:34

He's incredibly creepy. It's like he's fetishizing their relationship. If it was about genuine love and care what's the need to make such a big deal about the age gap himself, why does he need to make that the focal point of his account if its just a normal loving marriage.

My DH is 10 years my senior and it's not something that ever comes up because it's just not important. If he went around going "look at me, look at this young woman I've pulled, look at meeee" I would be seriously questioning his motives.

Yes, I noticed that. Its even written on the account description. He's clearly getting off on the gap.

Schuyler · 16/06/2022 09:49

I’m a social worker for adults in an LD team right now.
I’ve not seen the videos and I won’t be looking but I completely understand your concern. This man is in a position of power due to his age and even if the woman does have the mental capacity to make all decisions, there’s always that concern about manipulation and coercion. That said, it may be they were referred to adult social care and this was looked into and decided there is no need to have concern.
If I received this referral, I would certainly be doing work and investigations and offering support.

Midlifemusings · 16/06/2022 09:55

Schuyler · 16/06/2022 09:49

I’m a social worker for adults in an LD team right now.
I’ve not seen the videos and I won’t be looking but I completely understand your concern. This man is in a position of power due to his age and even if the woman does have the mental capacity to make all decisions, there’s always that concern about manipulation and coercion. That said, it may be they were referred to adult social care and this was looked into and decided there is no need to have concern.
If I received this referral, I would certainly be doing work and investigations and offering support.

In many ways, being 74 also puts you into the vulnerable actegory as seniors are more easily taken advantage of and abused.

If you took a mid 70s woman and a 26 year old man - I am not sure people would feel that age gives power.

Stath · 16/06/2022 12:10

ZealAndArdour · 15/06/2022 17:22

Also severe, formally diagnosed and medicated ADHD here. I manage to hold down a band 7 NHS job and own my own home and care for my animals, etc despite my brain being in constant overwhelm and chaos because I have managed to learn workarounds, to-do lists upon to-do lists, have insight into my issues, etc. My IQ is not at all impaired by ADHD.

Because ADHD isn’t a learning disability or difficulty, I don’t think think it’s comparable to the type of impairment that the women/girls involved in this situation clearly have if you’ve spent any time observing the accounts related to this family.

Sorry to go slightly of topic but do you have any successful/go to resources for managing your ADHD? That’s if you don’t mind sharing?

I’m diagnosed and medicated (took me until my 40s) but am always looking for my ways to ‘manage’.

ZealAndArdour · 16/06/2022 13:19

Stath · 16/06/2022 12:10

Sorry to go slightly of topic but do you have any successful/go to resources for managing your ADHD? That’s if you don’t mind sharing?

I’m diagnosed and medicated (took me until my 40s) but am always looking for my ways to ‘manage’.

My main things that keep me in control are;

  • Meticulous use of Google calendar with colour coding for different things; Green things are the days that certain bills come out. Purple are personal appts/social things. Dark blue is my set work shifts, pale blue for events inside my working day that I need to be aware of/training/meetings I need to log on for. Red is birthdays and anniversaries (these are set to recur every year). Grey is days off/annual leave. I used the salmon pink colour to mark anything relating to my DP - so his annual leave, when he’s travelling, etc. I make sure anything that needs to recur monthly, three monthly, yearly, etc is set to recur within the reminder, so I never have to think about it again, it’s always there.
  • I do not agree to or book ANYTHING without checking my Google calendar first, and I add it there immediately, I don’t allow myself to say “oh yeah, I’ll put that in my calendar later”.
My next thing is using a to-do list book, and the Google Tasks app. Working Tasks I have multiple to do lists set up;
  • One has all my monthly bills and outgoings on it, and every day I check my bank balance, tick off what has come out and tally up what’s left to come out, and what remains in my account to play with. At the start of a new month I untick everything and start again, add up my total, work out roughly what I think I’m going to have left as disposable income and work out if I need to magic some money from anywhere else, or if I can chill.
  • I have a shopping list one, self explanatory, add anything to it that I need to remember to buy when grocery shopping.
  • I have a “To buy” list, which is for non-grocery items, so that stuff that I might need several different shops for, or do a bit of research about; new bedroom furniture, front doorstep paint, remembering I need navy thread to hem my uniform, etc. And I can dip in and out of that when I need to. I also add on here stuff that I really really want, so that if anyone asks me what I’d like for a birthday/Xmas I have a few ideas to hand that I’ve thought about, rather than saying “oh anything!”.
  • I also have a Master to-do list which contains jobs that do ultimately need doing, but aren’t urgent and can be moved along - I.E. find new bedroom furniture, repot plants, paint the garden fence (just so that they don’t fall out of my brain altogether). Usually everything starts off on the master list and gets moved around depending on what life throws at me.
  • A daily to do list, I’ll add things to this from the master list, but also day to day domestic tasks that I need to incentivise myself to do - such as empty dishwasher, put whites load in, peg washing out, go to post office, etc.
  • I also have a paper to-do list pad, because my brain finds physically crossing something off as a “high-value” reward for whatever I’ve done, I might do my daily jobs on the pad so I can carry it round the house with me without getting embroiled in my phone every time I have to pick it up to cross something off.
  • I break down all my tasks, so what might be “laundry” to a non-adhd person, for me it will get broken down into whites loads, peg whites out, darks load, peg darks out, fold whites, put whites away, etc. I need to be able to visualise individual stages or I just drown in the task. This way makes it easier for me to dot about and do other tasks in between, because my smaller tasks are on the list and can’t be forgotten. But if I just approached it as “laundry” it would be the only thing I could do all afternoon. Same with hoovering, I list hoovering and then each individual room, then I don’t feel like I’ve failed if I don’t do the whole house, and just manage the downstairs or whatever.
  • I ask my partner to look at this list and see which tasks he can do. My standards are far higher than my neurotypical boyfriend but he tries to do his bit to help me out.
  • At the back of the list book I have a page for every room in my house renovation and an itemised list of what needs doing, such as; lounge - ceiling rose, coving, replacement skirting, painting, new carpet, replace blinds, new rug, cabinet, clean fireplace, replace window lock, etc - this means I can dip in and out and progress things incrementally. My dad works from this bit too, to help me out and because he enjoys the house/diy stuff.
  • Periodically I review all of my lists and check they’re all still relevant and that nothing has been ticked off organically by myself or my partner since it was added.
When I’m really struggling for the motivation to do something/lots of things I’ll use “body-doubling” which is where you can work alongside a supportive person, people often do this on MS Teams to keep each other accountable at work/ whilst also having company. But my version of body-doubling is getting my partner on board and us planning a day/or morning of errands, to get the really tricky/low reward stuff ticked off, he’ll come with me while we go to the post office or nip to X place and do what needs to be done and we try to plan in nice stuff during this time too, so getting a Costa as soon as we set off, choosing the post office with the best selection of cake, etc. I’m fortunate that he’s supportive and has done a lot of his own reading into ADHD in Women and knows I need him sometimes. Other times it might be my dad who will come and pick me up while we run around and do some of the trickier jobs that are on my list (these are usually house renovation related things where it’s my lack of knowledge/not being a man that creates the anxiety around a particular job/liaising with a trade/dealing with measurements, etc).

In my job I also keep an index notebook, where write every single piece of pertinent information that I’ve ever been given and keep it organised. Numbers for departments, numbers for speciality registrar on call mobiles, direct numbers for control rooms for police/different ambulance services, extensions for every departments nurses station or ward receptionist, extensions for specialist nurses, etc. Once I’m given a number, I write it down and keep it forever. I also print out and stick in any relevant pathways, guidelines, diagrams etc that I might need to easily have at hand, aide memoirs that I can quickly glance at.

Most of all I try to be very compassionate with myself, I try to stop negative self talk, I try to be mindful of the fact that I have a bit of a toxic perfectionism streak and that almost no one is expecting me to produce the standards that I impose on myself. I remind myself that I’ve achieved a lot, in less than ideal circumstances at times (significant bereavement, less than ideal childhood, undiagnosed adhd for a long time, binge eating disorder (in recovery, but it’s Co-morbid with adhd as a sensory/dopamine seeking behaviour), etc), and I am doing my best. And I accept that some days it’s okay to wake up and not do anything on my to-do list because my body and my brain need a rest.

Probably sounds crazy written down like that, but once you implement the systems, it’s very little work to maintain and it becomes a natural inbuilt behaviour. If I’m struggling for what I should be doing or floundering a bit, I consult the list and get myself back on track.

Hope that helps.

SENmum22 · 16/06/2022 14:06

ZealAndArdour · 16/06/2022 13:19

My main things that keep me in control are;

  • Meticulous use of Google calendar with colour coding for different things; Green things are the days that certain bills come out. Purple are personal appts/social things. Dark blue is my set work shifts, pale blue for events inside my working day that I need to be aware of/training/meetings I need to log on for. Red is birthdays and anniversaries (these are set to recur every year). Grey is days off/annual leave. I used the salmon pink colour to mark anything relating to my DP - so his annual leave, when he’s travelling, etc. I make sure anything that needs to recur monthly, three monthly, yearly, etc is set to recur within the reminder, so I never have to think about it again, it’s always there.
  • I do not agree to or book ANYTHING without checking my Google calendar first, and I add it there immediately, I don’t allow myself to say “oh yeah, I’ll put that in my calendar later”.
My next thing is using a to-do list book, and the Google Tasks app. Working Tasks I have multiple to do lists set up;
  • One has all my monthly bills and outgoings on it, and every day I check my bank balance, tick off what has come out and tally up what’s left to come out, and what remains in my account to play with. At the start of a new month I untick everything and start again, add up my total, work out roughly what I think I’m going to have left as disposable income and work out if I need to magic some money from anywhere else, or if I can chill.
  • I have a shopping list one, self explanatory, add anything to it that I need to remember to buy when grocery shopping.
  • I have a “To buy” list, which is for non-grocery items, so that stuff that I might need several different shops for, or do a bit of research about; new bedroom furniture, front doorstep paint, remembering I need navy thread to hem my uniform, etc. And I can dip in and out of that when I need to. I also add on here stuff that I really really want, so that if anyone asks me what I’d like for a birthday/Xmas I have a few ideas to hand that I’ve thought about, rather than saying “oh anything!”.
  • I also have a Master to-do list which contains jobs that do ultimately need doing, but aren’t urgent and can be moved along - I.E. find new bedroom furniture, repot plants, paint the garden fence (just so that they don’t fall out of my brain altogether). Usually everything starts off on the master list and gets moved around depending on what life throws at me.
  • A daily to do list, I’ll add things to this from the master list, but also day to day domestic tasks that I need to incentivise myself to do - such as empty dishwasher, put whites load in, peg washing out, go to post office, etc.
  • I also have a paper to-do list pad, because my brain finds physically crossing something off as a “high-value” reward for whatever I’ve done, I might do my daily jobs on the pad so I can carry it round the house with me without getting embroiled in my phone every time I have to pick it up to cross something off.
  • I break down all my tasks, so what might be “laundry” to a non-adhd person, for me it will get broken down into whites loads, peg whites out, darks load, peg darks out, fold whites, put whites away, etc. I need to be able to visualise individual stages or I just drown in the task. This way makes it easier for me to dot about and do other tasks in between, because my smaller tasks are on the list and can’t be forgotten. But if I just approached it as “laundry” it would be the only thing I could do all afternoon. Same with hoovering, I list hoovering and then each individual room, then I don’t feel like I’ve failed if I don’t do the whole house, and just manage the downstairs or whatever.
  • I ask my partner to look at this list and see which tasks he can do. My standards are far higher than my neurotypical boyfriend but he tries to do his bit to help me out.
  • At the back of the list book I have a page for every room in my house renovation and an itemised list of what needs doing, such as; lounge - ceiling rose, coving, replacement skirting, painting, new carpet, replace blinds, new rug, cabinet, clean fireplace, replace window lock, etc - this means I can dip in and out and progress things incrementally. My dad works from this bit too, to help me out and because he enjoys the house/diy stuff.
  • Periodically I review all of my lists and check they’re all still relevant and that nothing has been ticked off organically by myself or my partner since it was added.
When I’m really struggling for the motivation to do something/lots of things I’ll use “body-doubling” which is where you can work alongside a supportive person, people often do this on MS Teams to keep each other accountable at work/ whilst also having company. But my version of body-doubling is getting my partner on board and us planning a day/or morning of errands, to get the really tricky/low reward stuff ticked off, he’ll come with me while we go to the post office or nip to X place and do what needs to be done and we try to plan in nice stuff during this time too, so getting a Costa as soon as we set off, choosing the post office with the best selection of cake, etc. I’m fortunate that he’s supportive and has done a lot of his own reading into ADHD in Women and knows I need him sometimes. Other times it might be my dad who will come and pick me up while we run around and do some of the trickier jobs that are on my list (these are usually house renovation related things where it’s my lack of knowledge/not being a man that creates the anxiety around a particular job/liaising with a trade/dealing with measurements, etc).

In my job I also keep an index notebook, where write every single piece of pertinent information that I’ve ever been given and keep it organised. Numbers for departments, numbers for speciality registrar on call mobiles, direct numbers for control rooms for police/different ambulance services, extensions for every departments nurses station or ward receptionist, extensions for specialist nurses, etc. Once I’m given a number, I write it down and keep it forever. I also print out and stick in any relevant pathways, guidelines, diagrams etc that I might need to easily have at hand, aide memoirs that I can quickly glance at.

Most of all I try to be very compassionate with myself, I try to stop negative self talk, I try to be mindful of the fact that I have a bit of a toxic perfectionism streak and that almost no one is expecting me to produce the standards that I impose on myself. I remind myself that I’ve achieved a lot, in less than ideal circumstances at times (significant bereavement, less than ideal childhood, undiagnosed adhd for a long time, binge eating disorder (in recovery, but it’s Co-morbid with adhd as a sensory/dopamine seeking behaviour), etc), and I am doing my best. And I accept that some days it’s okay to wake up and not do anything on my to-do list because my body and my brain need a rest.

Probably sounds crazy written down like that, but once you implement the systems, it’s very little work to maintain and it becomes a natural inbuilt behaviour. If I’m struggling for what I should be doing or floundering a bit, I consult the list and get myself back on track.

Hope that helps.

THIS is the level of organisation that I aspire to, yet feels out of reach as I don't have any systems in place bar one notice board in the kitchen that I of course forget to check

Thank you for sharing. I'm definitely going to incorporate some of those things into my life.

OP posts:
Rubyroseyposey · 16/06/2022 14:09

ZealAndArdour · 16/06/2022 13:19

My main things that keep me in control are;

  • Meticulous use of Google calendar with colour coding for different things; Green things are the days that certain bills come out. Purple are personal appts/social things. Dark blue is my set work shifts, pale blue for events inside my working day that I need to be aware of/training/meetings I need to log on for. Red is birthdays and anniversaries (these are set to recur every year). Grey is days off/annual leave. I used the salmon pink colour to mark anything relating to my DP - so his annual leave, when he’s travelling, etc. I make sure anything that needs to recur monthly, three monthly, yearly, etc is set to recur within the reminder, so I never have to think about it again, it’s always there.
  • I do not agree to or book ANYTHING without checking my Google calendar first, and I add it there immediately, I don’t allow myself to say “oh yeah, I’ll put that in my calendar later”.
My next thing is using a to-do list book, and the Google Tasks app. Working Tasks I have multiple to do lists set up;
  • One has all my monthly bills and outgoings on it, and every day I check my bank balance, tick off what has come out and tally up what’s left to come out, and what remains in my account to play with. At the start of a new month I untick everything and start again, add up my total, work out roughly what I think I’m going to have left as disposable income and work out if I need to magic some money from anywhere else, or if I can chill.
  • I have a shopping list one, self explanatory, add anything to it that I need to remember to buy when grocery shopping.
  • I have a “To buy” list, which is for non-grocery items, so that stuff that I might need several different shops for, or do a bit of research about; new bedroom furniture, front doorstep paint, remembering I need navy thread to hem my uniform, etc. And I can dip in and out of that when I need to. I also add on here stuff that I really really want, so that if anyone asks me what I’d like for a birthday/Xmas I have a few ideas to hand that I’ve thought about, rather than saying “oh anything!”.
  • I also have a Master to-do list which contains jobs that do ultimately need doing, but aren’t urgent and can be moved along - I.E. find new bedroom furniture, repot plants, paint the garden fence (just so that they don’t fall out of my brain altogether). Usually everything starts off on the master list and gets moved around depending on what life throws at me.
  • A daily to do list, I’ll add things to this from the master list, but also day to day domestic tasks that I need to incentivise myself to do - such as empty dishwasher, put whites load in, peg washing out, go to post office, etc.
  • I also have a paper to-do list pad, because my brain finds physically crossing something off as a “high-value” reward for whatever I’ve done, I might do my daily jobs on the pad so I can carry it round the house with me without getting embroiled in my phone every time I have to pick it up to cross something off.
  • I break down all my tasks, so what might be “laundry” to a non-adhd person, for me it will get broken down into whites loads, peg whites out, darks load, peg darks out, fold whites, put whites away, etc. I need to be able to visualise individual stages or I just drown in the task. This way makes it easier for me to dot about and do other tasks in between, because my smaller tasks are on the list and can’t be forgotten. But if I just approached it as “laundry” it would be the only thing I could do all afternoon. Same with hoovering, I list hoovering and then each individual room, then I don’t feel like I’ve failed if I don’t do the whole house, and just manage the downstairs or whatever.
  • I ask my partner to look at this list and see which tasks he can do. My standards are far higher than my neurotypical boyfriend but he tries to do his bit to help me out.
  • At the back of the list book I have a page for every room in my house renovation and an itemised list of what needs doing, such as; lounge - ceiling rose, coving, replacement skirting, painting, new carpet, replace blinds, new rug, cabinet, clean fireplace, replace window lock, etc - this means I can dip in and out and progress things incrementally. My dad works from this bit too, to help me out and because he enjoys the house/diy stuff.
  • Periodically I review all of my lists and check they’re all still relevant and that nothing has been ticked off organically by myself or my partner since it was added.
When I’m really struggling for the motivation to do something/lots of things I’ll use “body-doubling” which is where you can work alongside a supportive person, people often do this on MS Teams to keep each other accountable at work/ whilst also having company. But my version of body-doubling is getting my partner on board and us planning a day/or morning of errands, to get the really tricky/low reward stuff ticked off, he’ll come with me while we go to the post office or nip to X place and do what needs to be done and we try to plan in nice stuff during this time too, so getting a Costa as soon as we set off, choosing the post office with the best selection of cake, etc. I’m fortunate that he’s supportive and has done a lot of his own reading into ADHD in Women and knows I need him sometimes. Other times it might be my dad who will come and pick me up while we run around and do some of the trickier jobs that are on my list (these are usually house renovation related things where it’s my lack of knowledge/not being a man that creates the anxiety around a particular job/liaising with a trade/dealing with measurements, etc).

In my job I also keep an index notebook, where write every single piece of pertinent information that I’ve ever been given and keep it organised. Numbers for departments, numbers for speciality registrar on call mobiles, direct numbers for control rooms for police/different ambulance services, extensions for every departments nurses station or ward receptionist, extensions for specialist nurses, etc. Once I’m given a number, I write it down and keep it forever. I also print out and stick in any relevant pathways, guidelines, diagrams etc that I might need to easily have at hand, aide memoirs that I can quickly glance at.

Most of all I try to be very compassionate with myself, I try to stop negative self talk, I try to be mindful of the fact that I have a bit of a toxic perfectionism streak and that almost no one is expecting me to produce the standards that I impose on myself. I remind myself that I’ve achieved a lot, in less than ideal circumstances at times (significant bereavement, less than ideal childhood, undiagnosed adhd for a long time, binge eating disorder (in recovery, but it’s Co-morbid with adhd as a sensory/dopamine seeking behaviour), etc), and I am doing my best. And I accept that some days it’s okay to wake up and not do anything on my to-do list because my body and my brain need a rest.

Probably sounds crazy written down like that, but once you implement the systems, it’s very little work to maintain and it becomes a natural inbuilt behaviour. If I’m struggling for what I should be doing or floundering a bit, I consult the list and get myself back on track.

Hope that helps.

This is brilliant thank you so much for taking the time to share - I don't have adhd but I have some other issues which make my mind chaotic - I really like the idea of colour coding I think that help me also.

Stath · 16/06/2022 20:47

@ZealAndArdour thank you so very much for taking the time to write that post. I really appreciate it and have c&p it to save!

Goldencarp · 16/06/2022 21:50

mam0918 · 15/06/2022 14:55

I have 'learning dificulties' and I am in no way 'vunerable' due to that.

It one of those assumption non-disabled people throw around because they are scared of what they dont understand same way people refer to us as 'suffering' (we are not vunerable or suffering just from being different).

In some cases a person with a disability may be vunerable (as people without disabilities may also be) but not 'just' because they have said disability.

If there was any question about her capacity to understand or consent the wedding wouldn't have been allowed to go ahead, as such she can clearly carry and articulate her wants well enough to not be a concern.

Believe it or not be the registrar etc... take consent very seriously.

Whilst I agree to a certain extent, there is a big difference between learning difficulties and a learning disability. The young lady in question seems to have a learning disability.

picklemewalnuts · 17/06/2022 06:38

@ZealAndArdour that's amazing. What's especially impressive is the sticking power it took to develop that system. I'm not diagnosed with anything though I've come to suspect adhd in recent years.

I have attempted a system like yours, but have failed to coordinate the colours and calendars across my phone and iPad. I've gone back to everything on one calendar so I don't miss anything. I also have lists and organisers and notebooks...

So you've done something really significant not just with following your system, but with developing and establishing it!

ZealAndArdour · 17/06/2022 11:47

Thanks everyone, it’s hard work finding the right system, but once you do it clicks into place.

The reason I use the Google tools is because they’re all backed up and available for me to log into my Google account from any device; phone, ipad, works PC, work laptop, home PC, friends PC, etc. In a real pinch I could go and log in at McDonalds or the library if I needed to, although I’m not likely to need to! It saves trying to coordinate multiple scheduling apps, which would be tricky if your employer insists on using MS calendars instead or something, but Google maybe even has some transferability between those platforms, I dunno.

I disregard the Apple calendar on my phone and IPad and download the Google calendar one instead, and that’s the one I use. I especially love when you book an appt somewhere and they send you a confirmation with the buttons already set up to add straight to your Google calendar, I can then just adjust the colours and add it in. My nail lady has this and it’s great!

WifeMotherWorkRepeat · 17/06/2022 11:52

How grim!!!

ZealAndArdour · 17/06/2022 12:01

Here’s how it looks in practice, obvs haven’t shown you this month, lol. See after my night shifts I deliberately label the day of finishing a night shift as “sleep day” so I don’t see “day off” and then arrange loads of things that just aren’t possible when you’ve not slept. It reminds me that I need to sleep that day and anything I do get done either needs to be late afternoon/evening or nothing booked at all. 28th March was an unfortunate day 😅

74 year old man, 26 year old vulnerable woman with learning disabilities
picklemewalnuts · 17/06/2022 13:10

That sounds amazing, Zeal.

I will definitely look into this. It's what I need. Ideally I'd like a cooperative side kick to do it for me, but that's unlikely!

picklemewalnuts · 17/06/2022 13:11
picklemewalnuts · 17/06/2022 15:08

They've removed the things that used to go inside < >!

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