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AIBU to think drinking every day is normal?

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BitBehind · 12/06/2022 18:16

Just that really.

I grew up in a household where both parents drank every night. Always wine with dinner and then sometimes gin or whisky afterwards.

They were never smashed. But they definitely drank every day without fail and often a little wobbly before bed. I didn't think much of it.

Now I always have wine in the evening. Soon as the kids (toddlers) are in bed it's my routine to come down and have a glass of white wine in the quiet at last. And then maybe one more with dinner. And maybe one more after dinner. Small glass. 3 max. I never go out drinking anymore so that's it. I'm never drunk but also would find it hard to not have that glass at the end of the day

Is this normal? My partner says it's definitely not.

OP posts:
User6761 · 12/06/2022 21:39

It's been interesting reading people's drinking behaviours and reflecting on my own and how it's changed over time. One thing that's really struck me and I'd never really thought of before is that I've never really done 'at home' drinking. Even when I was drinking regularly as a student/young adult (pubs, clubs, parties sometimes several times a week) I never got in to the habit of drinking at home.

When I then lived alone from mid 20s-mid 30s, I'd have a selection of wine/beers for when friends came for dinner but I never thought to have a drink on my own. I think maybe because for me alcohol is very strongly associated with socialising. Not with TV watching, eating my everyday dinner etc.

me4real · 12/06/2022 21:39

I'm more interested in enjoying life than having a long life

Happiness is a combination of the short, medium and long term. The ideal is to live so as to maximize your happiness in the future as well as the now, or a balance between all three. If you're really interested in enjoying life then you'd want to enjoy it as long as possible.

And as a PP says, being a heavy drinker and then liver failure is not good. Will you off yourself if any of your 'enjoying life' behaviours end up having adverse consequences?

Alwayswonderedwhy · 12/06/2022 21:40

No it's not normal.

Crocsandshocks · 12/06/2022 21:41

I actually usually only have one drink on a Friday! But I know I'm probably unusual!

carrythecan · 12/06/2022 21:42

Perfectly normal for both my family and my DH's family. No history of alcohols abuse or building up the amounts drunk over the years. Just very normal to have a beer or wine with evening meal. Rarely get drunk though.

Eddiesferret · 12/06/2022 21:46

Rural south east - high earning ... I say that because I think it's relevant..

Absolutely normal... OP..
not good but yes, round these parts v normal. My teacher friend seems to have 'grown' her glasses whereby her wine glass now seems to hold half a bottle.. so she only had 2 glasses..

Sammysquiz · 12/06/2022 21:48

I sleep better, my skin is better and i feel healthier. And i suppose i enjoy that feeling more than i did the drink i enjoyed.

Same here. I gave up for a few months (previously had a glass of wine most nights), and every aspect of my health improved. I lost weight, I was less anxious, I had more energy and motivation, I started sleeping better. And I realised I would much rather have those things than have alcohol.

EL8888 · 12/06/2022 21:49

Confused by the special needs comment. Rather unnecessary and rude

In terms of drinking every day then no need. Lots of people live busy and stressful lives. No need to drink everyday -it’s just an excuse. In your partners shoes l wouldn’t be thrilled. It’s too much and lm the child of an alcoholic.

NeverDropYourMooncup · 12/06/2022 21:53

I'm intrigued by the people who only drink occasionally (like only on special occasions or holiday etc) - do you just not like wine very much or do you have iron strong discipline. Cooking a nice dinner with a glass of good wine is a real pleasure to me and I can't imagine doing it only at Christmas

I like good red wine. I like good gin, I like limoncino, I like damson and sloe gin, I like cointreau and amaretto, marsala, avocaat, cherry brandy and prosecco and champagne. When I didn't have to worry about gluten, I'd enjoy an ice cold lager or an ale and cook with stout.

Part of me would like to have an old fashioned cut glass wine glass of red wine in the bath each evening.

But I really can't be arsed. It's money I don't need to spend, it's calories I don't need to drink, it's just Not That Important.

I don't eat cake, chocolate or biscuits either.

I'd rather spend the money on something else - like nicer olives, chargrilled artichokes, better cured meats, EVOO or, what is more pressing in my life, the vastly inflated costs of gluten free pasta. And by not buying it, that covers my gym membership for the month. It also means that on that occasion where I do decide I want a drink, I really appreciate it.

My ex insisted that drinking wine every night was what 'every middle class family does' and was really angry that I didn't feel the need or desire to have three glasses a night (or even a week). But, then again, he was the one drinking six cans of Stella and smoking a quarter of Skunk every night and needed to have me validate his behaviour as being normal. I'd rather have my liver and lungs than whatever his look like by now.

Pixies74 · 12/06/2022 21:57

WisherWood · 12/06/2022 20:22

Wow, I am really surprised at these responses. It is totally normally in our household. Enjoy!

Does seeing responses that run contrary to what you think ever give you pause for thought? I mean, do you ever think uh-oh, maybe this isn't as good as I thought? I remember before I was diagnosed with depression, reading people's accounts of how they had been diagnosed, and the symptoms they had and thinking 'no, you haven't got depression, that's just how people think.' Then when I was diagnosed a few months later, the penny dropped. How I felt was normal for me at that time, but it didn't make it healthy or right.

I do wish I could go back 20 years and tell my dad that his drinking patterns weren't healthy, back at a point when he could have changed it. I can't do that, obviously. But every so often I put the brakes on my drinking, just to check they still work.

To be honest, it probably wouldn't have made any difference if you did... I used to plead with my parents all the time as a teenager and yet they just gaslit me and told me that alcoholics were only people who drank spirits...

EL8888 · 12/06/2022 22:08

Confused by the special

Alb0 · 12/06/2022 22:10

No, it isn't. Apparently you are supposed to have 3 dry days a week. And if a woman, no more than one standard drink a day.

According to my GP.

Eddiesferret · 12/06/2022 22:15

Rural south east - high earning ... I say that because I think it's relevant..

Absolutely normal... OP..
not good but yes, round these parts v normal. My teacher friend seems to have 'grown' her glasses whereby her wine glass now seems to hold half a bottle.. so she only had 2 glasses..

Alb0 · 12/06/2022 22:19

I should add that I was the daughter of an alcoholic, and for awhile there I was binge-drinking to the extent that I had abnormal blood-liver functions, which is how the topic came up with my GP.

Phrenologistsfinger · 12/06/2022 22:27

Definitely not normal, it sounds like alcohol dependency to me. Can you stop? Could you go a month or even a week without any?

Oldfilmsareshit · 12/06/2022 22:58

would be slightly nervous about having 3 drinks every night especially in case you had to drive in an emergency!

ooh the emergency driving card! What happens if you drink on one night a year and that’s the night this emergency that never happens is?

MyrtlethePurpleTurtle · 12/06/2022 22:58

PashunFroot · 12/06/2022 18:25

A few years ago when I was child free I would drink most nights. Not anymore though with two kids. My husband would drink every night if I let him but I told him to stop so he has 0% beer as he does love a beer and then on his day off he will have a real beer in the evening. I have a few glasses of red maybe every few weeks.

Im not one of those mn “I only drink every 4 years types!” I promise but it’s just not worth the hangover when you have kids 🤣 when they’re grown up I imagine me and husband will be back in the pub most days!

So it’s worth the hangover if you don’t have kids?

MarchingOnTogether · 12/06/2022 23:05

Definitely not normal.

My mum was the same, it started as a glass or two in the evenings when we were kids. Over the years it became a bottle a day, by the end she was buying it by the box! She died at 57 of liver failure and never got to see her 3 gorgeous grandkids grow up.

ZeppelinTits · 12/06/2022 23:09

It's really not normal.

Phrenologistsfinger · 12/06/2022 23:10

Definitely not normal, it sounds like alcohol dependency to me. Can you stop? Could you go a month or even a week without any?

DdraigGoch · 12/06/2022 23:14

It could be "normal", in the sense that it's far too commonplace. It's not good though, not good at all.

MyneighbourisTotoro · 12/06/2022 23:16

BitBehind · 12/06/2022 20:02

I'm intrigued by the people who only drink occasionally (like only on special occasions or holiday etc) - do you just not like wine very much or do you have iron strong discipline. Cooking a nice dinner with a glass of good wine is a real pleasure to me and I can't imagine doing it only at Christmas.

But I take all the points about health and the fact it can increase and increase.

Someone asked about my pregnancies - totally alcohol free from the moment I got the positive test. Did drink a little during breastfeeding. I've been drinking like this for 18 months

As I say I used to go get pissed at the weekends and I never do now so I've probs been justifying it

Oh also someone asked if I don't drive anywhere...with toddlers I have no social life and they're in bed by 7pm so not much evening driving

I don’t particularly like alcohol in general (especially red wine!) and the ones I do enjoy are usually very sweet like gin or Malibu with lemonade or berry ciders.
In the summer I’ll have a drink if we are having a bbq or visiting a pub/friends etc but I only ever have one as I find it hard to finish it.
I only ever drink wine on special occasions and only if it is a super sweet one.
I just don’t see the point in drinking, it doesn’t do anything for me, I’d much rather curl up with a cup of tea!

DinosaurPotato · 12/06/2022 23:23

Amongst people my age (late 20s, early 30s) pretty much all of my friends only drink when going out/special occasions. I don't drink at all. I don't think that's uncommon.

Asparagusluvva · 12/06/2022 23:26

Fairly normal for the middle class and middle aged, but not necessarily healthy. If you are younger I’d say probably not normal. Wine with supper is absolute essential pleasure for some but try and cut down to just one glass if possible. And better still a night or 2 off a week.

Dietcokeaddiction · 12/06/2022 23:41

Not rtft but no this isn't normal and it definitely isn't healthy.
I used to drink more (I love wine and enjoy a glass or two) but now we have made a conscious decision that we will only drink it at the weekends and it's actually really easy to stick to.
That's partly because the last patients I saw with alcoholic liver disease were exactly like this - wine with dinner (1/2 bottle a day) for decades and never thought anything if it. One died and the other had a liver transplant. It was a wake up call (although I didn't drink that much!)
It's also a very much better lifestyle to be showing one's children. Drinking every night normalises it for the next generation (as it has for you) and it's very unhealthy.You just don't know if you'll be the person whose liver can't cope with that.
Guidance is 14 units maximum with at least 1-2 days off a week...