To think that the NHS had lost the plot over breastfeeding?

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www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-10892531/NHS-accused-putting-babies-harm-advice-trans-women-wanting-breastfeed.html

It feels like some kind of bizarre experiment - except it's babies who are being used for affirmation.

Am I being gaslit here?

This is scaremongering. I know loads of people who have taken this drug to support breastfeeding - some trans women, some cis women who need some extra support, and some cis women who are in a lesbian relationship and want to be able to breastfeed the child their partner is carrying.

DW will be doing just this when we TTC so that we can both BF. I don't see the problem here.

Sorry, are you saying that if something is in the DM it's untrue?

Shall I link you to the relevant pages?

Here's the NHS page on chestfeeding: www.nhs.uk/pregnancy/having-a-baby-if-you-are-lgbt-plus/chestfeeding-if-youre-trans-or-non-binary/

Here's the page they link to on the La Leche league website which tells men how they can stimulate their nipples to produce a liquid:

www.laleche.org.uk/support-transgender-non-binary-parents/

Where are the in depth studies that compare the composition of the liquid that biological males are producing with the aid of domperidone to breastmilk from women on domperidone and women who aren't?

Have La Leche done actual studies on this before recommending it? If not why is the NHS recommending them?

It’s not rare at all. Half the mothers in the NICU were on it 4 years ago when I was there.

It’s not rare at all. Half the mothers in the NICU were on it 4 years ago when I was there.

I’m so relieved my other half can share in the breast feeding with me. It’s time men were given these chances to relive the burden from falling solely on women.

So it's not actually happening on the NHS?

Have you read the article?

It’s so bloody weird. Also weirder - apparently it’s only called chest feeding now - I was corrected a while ago. 😱🤦🏻‍♀️

I think the whole thing is ridiculous tbh. I appreciate the struggles that trans people have, but this is about the baby not their own wants.

YANBU

It's nuts

Every incident like this makes me less and less tolerant of trans issues- ie these campaigns are having the opposite effect vs that intended

Surely transwomen would have implants and be unable to breastfeed.

Also why are the most attention seeking transpeople transwomen

Chest feeding?!

What the fuck (and I have no children)😡

Where did they get that information from? It's not only called chestfeeding now at all.

That's exactly how I feel too.

Did you do a glazed smile at them whilst screaming inside 😂😂😂😂

The article doesn't make it all clear weather it is available on the NHS

I too am quite shocked - less so about the trans cross sex hormone thing but more because I am in early post natal period and am in contact with a number of other women at the same stage. The amount who have had trouble with the breastfeeding is unbelievable and the support they have received lack lustre to say the least.

Everyone being advised to top up with formula or left to their own devices fiddling about with pumps and trying all kinds of things to increase supply.

It’s interesting because every single person I know who had a c section (and thus subsequent Morphine pain relief - which promotes prolactin production) has not had this problem. Why is this available when women are not given any kind of drugs to boost prolactin.

How revolting. It sounds like a fetish. @FairyLightPups don’t use the term cis, I’m not a subset of my sex. And how selfish to take a powerful drug that can cause nasty side effects in babies so you can feel good.

Scaremongering on both sides here imo.

I used domperidone. It's safe for babies. Very small risk to mothers iirc which is why most GPs won't prescribe it.

That said - it didn't actually work 😂 And I'm a natal woman with actual boobs.

Formula is also totally fine and safe for babies. The reason I didn't want to give it was more bloody scaremongering.

All the rest is just trans/anti trans hoo ha.

YANBU

It's bonkers, the hospital where I can birth didn't even have a lactation consultant. We should focus on supporting mums who want to breastfeed with simple stuff like latching advice, tongue tie division etc - easy wins - rather than on complex experimental drug protocols for a tiny minority of the population.

Gross that I'm in a lesbian relationship and that my cis female wife wants to feed our baby too? Ah, homophobia dressed up. Lovely!

I had a cesarean and had a crap supply.

Where are the in depth studies that compare the composition of the liquid that biological males are producing with the aid of domperidone to breastmilk from women on domperidone and women who aren't?

This. Does it have the nutritional content, the immunological properties etc.
Breastfeeding is a complex thing inextricably linked to the process of birthing a child, to me it's kind of weird and sci-fi to go to so much effort to stimulate that with hormones, when we dont even provide the simple empathetic support women need to do it successfully in a natural context.

Why do TW deserve more effort and support to breastfeed than women?

I remember reading about the fact that men could stimulate the production of milk decades ago, in the same way as women who hadn't breastfed after their baby was born or who had stopped, or who had adopted, could also stimulate lactation.. It's not a new thing.