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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

To think that children shouldn't be topless at softplay?

150 replies

Bluueberrryy · 08/06/2022 14:42

Kid here wearing a pair of shorts. AIBU to think it's just a bit odd?

OP posts:
SaveMePlease · 08/06/2022 16:17

carefullycourageous · 08/06/2022 16:09

It is not lazy for another parent to simply do things differently to you - you are not the ultimate arbiter of clothing standards in the UK.

You're a judgemental one for sure.

I don't think I said anywhere that it was outright 'lazy' if another parent does things differently to me and I was just giving an opinion - granted, being underprepared or not choosing to take spare clothes for a young child could be construed as lazy.

It was lazy however for you to have assumed my intentions or to have thought that I consider my standards on clothing to be a benchmark. If you want to let your kids run around topless knock yourself out - I might be in the minority in not wanting my children to run around a soft play topless but I'm certainly happy to be in that minority.

momtoboys · 08/06/2022 16:21

Sure wouldn't have been my sons. I wouldn't even let them wear sleeveless shirts let alone be in public without a shirt. Of course, at a beach or pool I would have been OK.

Bluueberrryy · 08/06/2022 16:22

I do lean conservative so maybe that's why I don't like it.

Beach, pool then fair enough. It's not even hot today.

OP posts:
Giveaschitt · 08/06/2022 16:22

Bluueberrryy · 08/06/2022 16:14

Because some weirdos like to look at young children.

Presumably they'd be better off going to a swimming pool or beach where they've a much higher chance of seeing children with no tops on without waiting around on the off chance that one child decided to take their top off in a soft play?
Its no wonder we're a nation that's got so many body hangups, when someone is clutching their pearls at a child's naked top half...

Namechanger355 · 08/06/2022 16:25

Bluueberrryy · 08/06/2022 16:22

I do lean conservative so maybe that's why I don't like it.

Beach, pool then fair enough. It's not even hot today.

conservative with a little kid not wearing a top

honestly, i don't know what is going on with this chat...

perhaps worry about bigger things OP

motogirl · 08/06/2022 16:25

I think it's a bit weird too. There's only a couple of appropriate places to be topless in public, well 3 perhaps imho ... the beach, the pool and perhaps the park. Same goes for bikini style tops. Nightclubs I do accept but they aren't random places, you know the situation before you go in (I'm pretty broad minded in a consenting adults environment if that's your thing). Perhaps just me but I think once boys are past the age where you think it's acceptable for girls to be topless then they shouldn't either unless swimming/sunbathing

Greensleeves · 08/06/2022 16:27

It would help if you were able to articulate why exactly you think this is a problem. You seem to be only dimly aware of your own disapproval - you "lean conservative", it's "not necessary", there might be "weirdos"...these are not very well-defined objections, are they? My advice to you would be to spend a bit of time interrogating your own prejudices before you start threads about them. Less confusion all round, and you won't get called an idiot Grin

Tessasanderson · 08/06/2022 16:27

No top.....fine. 7 year old boys are usually covered in snot, mud and sweat. What difference does it make if they have a top on or not? They are in a place where kids are expected to run around, make noise and act like......children. Wouldnt give it a second thought. I would be more worried about where they had dumped their top if i saw one of my kids (Years and years ago) topless

FlissyPaps · 08/06/2022 16:32

Bluueberrryy · 08/06/2022 16:14

Because some weirdos like to look at young children.

Why didn’t you mention this in your OP? You could have stated you were concerned for the child in question because of possible weirdos that could be staring?

Yeah there are really disgusting weird n*ncey people out there - of course there is - parents have a responsibility to safeguard their children appropriately …. But to use the “weirdo” argument because you’re too conservative and offended by topless CHILDREN at a soft play is ridiculous.

DonnyBurrito · 08/06/2022 16:33

@SaveMePlease Er, but it's soft play... unless another kid is yanking them with an exceptional amount of force (not seen it yet at soft play), there is no chance of tearing or ripping their clothes to the point they'd need to be taken off. It's not like there's nails sticking out or sharp corners for clothes to get caught on. Also my 7 year old stepkid has never spilt an entire drink down herself to the point she'd need to take her top off the whole time I've know her, since she was 3. Neither me or her dad have ever felt the need to take a spare pair of clothes out with us... Unless we were going somewhere we knew she would likely get very wet or very muddy and we were a fair distance away from home, of course.

I'm sorry but you thinking it's necessary to take spare clothes to soft play for a 7 year old is way OTT. Much weirder than people going to the supermarket in slippers and dressing gown. I actually admire their level of IDGAF 😅

FiveNineFive · 08/06/2022 16:39

Holy carp, Mumsnet is getting more buttoned up by the day

Xmasbaby11 · 08/06/2022 16:40

I have DD 8 and 10. Neither of them would be comfortable to be topless in public anywhere, outside or in. I would say 7 is the turning point, for girls anyway. They no longer feel comfortable getting changed in mixed sex changing rooms are school, swimming etc.

And I certainly wouldn't allow it for the 10yo who has the beginnings of breasts.

FiveNineFive · 08/06/2022 16:40

Also "children should be clothed at all times because pedos" is the same as saying "she was asking for it"

Kanaloa · 08/06/2022 16:45

SaveMePlease · 08/06/2022 15:51

I mean it doesn't bother me either - I suppose I was just making the point that a parent who wears pyjamas when going out is also likely to let their kid run around topless in a soft play because even if their child spilt something on their top, they weren't carrying a spare - i.e. lazy, unprepared and doesn't care about their own appearance

I’d far rather be around someone who didn’t care about their own appearance than someone who cares so much about other peoples’ that they appear snobby and nasty.

SaveMePlease · 08/06/2022 16:46

DonnyBurrito · 08/06/2022 16:33

@SaveMePlease Er, but it's soft play... unless another kid is yanking them with an exceptional amount of force (not seen it yet at soft play), there is no chance of tearing or ripping their clothes to the point they'd need to be taken off. It's not like there's nails sticking out or sharp corners for clothes to get caught on. Also my 7 year old stepkid has never spilt an entire drink down herself to the point she'd need to take her top off the whole time I've know her, since she was 3. Neither me or her dad have ever felt the need to take a spare pair of clothes out with us... Unless we were going somewhere we knew she would likely get very wet or very muddy and we were a fair distance away from home, of course.

I'm sorry but you thinking it's necessary to take spare clothes to soft play for a 7 year old is way OTT. Much weirder than people going to the supermarket in slippers and dressing gown. I actually admire their level of IDGAF 😅

Yeah fair enough - it's all down to differences of opinion. I'm not trying to convince people of why I think kids shouldn't be in a soft play topless or why their parents should carry spare clothes.

The one thing I do take exception to is you thinking that carrying spare clothes in the car for a child is weirder than going to the supermarket in pyjamas. On that point objectively or subjectively you're just wrong...it's clearly better to be over prepared in having a spare t-shirt for your kids than (unless you are a hipster), choosing to go out unkempt, unshowered, in the clothes that are for the home and that you've slept, in footwear which isn't designed for driving or the outdoors.

stuntbubbles · 08/06/2022 16:46

Aren’t the weirdos who like to look at topless small children more likely to go on the internet than pay to enter the hell of soft play on the rare, rare chance that this might happen? You’ve said it yourself OP that you’ve never encountered this before. Think of the poor paedos forking out the entry fee week after week for years and it never happening, they’ll have given up by now.

Kanaloa · 08/06/2022 16:47

And if ‘weirdos’ are hanging around salivating at your kid in soft play having a top on or not won’t make a big amount of difference. Kids are targeted by paedophiles while wearing any type of clothes or none at all - not because they had no top on but because some people are paedophiles.

Although realistically any weirdo in soft play will have a child with them - they don’t allow spectators. So they’ll have access to children in a variety of ways. Sadly, a child not wearing a shirt is no less safe than the child invited to that weirdos house for a play date.

Moosake · 08/06/2022 16:48

Bluueberrryy · 08/06/2022 16:22

I do lean conservative so maybe that's why I don't like it.

Beach, pool then fair enough. It's not even hot today.

But you'd potentially get weirdos at the beach/pool too

Kanaloa · 08/06/2022 16:49

momtoboys · 08/06/2022 16:21

Sure wouldn't have been my sons. I wouldn't even let them wear sleeveless shirts let alone be in public without a shirt. Of course, at a beach or pool I would have been OK.

How weird. NO MICHAEL! You know you aren’t allowed to wear sleeveless shirts. Christ, don’t you know we’re a conservative family?

Kanaloa · 08/06/2022 16:51

It’s nothing to do with ‘weirdos.’ As others have said surely a weirdo would have a far better chance goggling at your shirtless child on a beach? They’d also be far less conspicuous than at a soft play, for which they’d need a child with them.

OP just wanted to have a nasty little sneer at someone and say they were ‘odd.’ Didn’t take long for people to jump in mentioning people in pyjamas etc as well. It’s clear this isn’t a safeguarding issue. The only weirdo staring at this child was the op.

NippyWoowoo · 08/06/2022 16:51

Because some weirdos like to look at young children.

When will people get it through their heads that weirdos look at children, regardless of what they are (or aren't) wearing. Believe me, I reported a FB page a few years back where there were pictures of young girls in jeans and t-shirts, with the most vile comments underneath.

To suggest that children only get looked at depending on their attire puts the blame on them.

Also, get over yourself

SaveMePlease · 08/06/2022 16:51

Kanaloa · 08/06/2022 16:45

I’d far rather be around someone who didn’t care about their own appearance than someone who cares so much about other peoples’ that they appear snobby and nasty.

I think you've misunderstood dear - I've said that I wouldn't wear pyjamas out shopping precisely because I care about my own appearance and not what others think. I'd feel quite dirty going out unwashed and frankly too restricted in a gown and slippers.

So what you're saying is that you'd rather be around someone who doesn't care about their own appearance over someone who does?

frogswimming · 08/06/2022 16:51

If it was a regular thing I'd think it was odd. But as many pp say, they probably spilled something / got sweaty and no change of clothes. Not really a big deal.

Kanaloa · 08/06/2022 16:54

SaveMePlease · 08/06/2022 16:51

I think you've misunderstood dear - I've said that I wouldn't wear pyjamas out shopping precisely because I care about my own appearance and not what others think. I'd feel quite dirty going out unwashed and frankly too restricted in a gown and slippers.

So what you're saying is that you'd rather be around someone who doesn't care about their own appearance over someone who does?

I haven’t misunderstood at all dearie. I think you’re a judgmental twit honey bunny. I also find people who try to put others down with terms of endearment nasty little idiots sweetie pie.

If you don’t want to wear pyjamas out, then just don’t do it. I don’t. Never caused me an issue. No need to bring it up on threads about something entirely different to imply that it’s just a certain type, isn’t it? Just those people.

Have a nice day lovey duck xxx

JuneJubilee · 08/06/2022 16:54

Bluueberrryy · 08/06/2022 15:05

The child is at least 7 if that makes a difference

Why would it?

its not 'odd' that a child is hot & has taken their top off. As a parent I'd advise against it, not to please weird people, but because if friction burns.