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Boris Johnson - Tory MPs are voting for or against tonight

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WaitroseWoman · 06/06/2022 17:56

AIBU to share this short video about Boris Johnson with you?

It is from Led By Donkeys and already has 1.5 million views:

twitter.com/ByDonkeys/status/1533765420427186179?cxt=HHwWhsC41cHhg8kqAAAA

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Blossomtoes · 06/06/2022 21:57

I don’t understand why people say he’s finished. He isn’t

He is. The 1922 committee can change the one year rule any time it likes. The Fixed Term Parliament Act has been repealed and we could have a GE next week. A series of votes against the government would see him off. He’s fatally wounded, we just have to wait for the coup de grace.

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WaitroseWoman · 06/06/2022 21:57

I think the resignation and comments earlier today of John Penrose, the anti-corruption tsar and Tory MP, are telling:

www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-politics-61706385

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itsgettingweird · 06/06/2022 21:58

HarryLimeFoxtrot · 06/06/2022 21:36

When Theresa May got 63% of the MP confidence vote, Rees-Mogg said “it’s a terrible result for the PM & she must resign”
Boris Johnson got 58%

It's comments like this I wish the journos would pick up and ask them all tomorrow morning!

Especially if JRM is on!

LexMitior · 06/06/2022 22:01

AlternativePerspective · 06/06/2022 21:52

I don’t understand why people say he’s finished. He isn’t.

He’s far too arrogant to resign. Ever. There can’t be another vote for another year. And there won’t be another election until 2024.

One can only hope that the Tory party will lose that election, and I hope to god they will. But as for Johnson, he’s not going anywhere.

He's finished in political terms - simply because he won't be a kingmaker anymore. He cannot offer people what they want, and so his political power will just drain away. Yes may be he clings on, but it will be less and less effective.

148 is more than the majority he won, and his ability to influence and get his way, gone.

Livelovebehappy · 06/06/2022 22:03

Just glad it’s done with. Fed up of hearing about partygate when there’s more important stuff for the government to focus on.

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WaitroseWoman · 06/06/2022 22:06

Livelovebehappy · 06/06/2022 22:03

Just glad it’s done with. Fed up of hearing about partygate when there’s more important stuff for the government to focus on.

Sorry to break this to you, but it's not 'done with' and nor is Partygate. It's not going to go away or be forgotten.

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ilovesooty · 06/06/2022 22:06

Livelovebehappy · 06/06/2022 22:03

Just glad it’s done with. Fed up of hearing about partygate when there’s more important stuff for the government to focus on.

It isn't done with. This result weakens him and the significant lack of confidence in him won't be going away.

AlternativePerspective · 06/06/2022 22:09

but the party is fickle. They have voted against him this week, but all it takes is for him to bring in a couple of policies which MP’s will commend him for and suddenly he’ll have that trust back.

And I’m afraid I don’t trust the electorate to not vote them back in in the next GE.

LakieLady · 06/06/2022 22:09

Blossomtoes · 06/06/2022 21:57

I don’t understand why people say he’s finished. He isn’t

He is. The 1922 committee can change the one year rule any time it likes. The Fixed Term Parliament Act has been repealed and we could have a GE next week. A series of votes against the government would see him off. He’s fatally wounded, we just have to wait for the coup de grace.

There's still the privileges committee report to come, that might make things more difficult.

And there's also the possibility of an opposition motion of no confidence. If the 140 who voted against him tonight did so again, along with SNP, LD and Labour MPs, it would pass.

Blossomtoes · 06/06/2022 22:10

Livelovebehappy · 06/06/2022 22:03

Just glad it’s done with. Fed up of hearing about partygate when there’s more important stuff for the government to focus on.

It’s not done with. It’s the beginning of the end. Thank Christ.

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WaitroseWoman · 06/06/2022 22:10

Blossomtoes · 06/06/2022 21:52

meanwhile the Labour party is confused as to whether women have a penis, cervix or both. Whenever the right time for change is, it isn't now

The time for change is absolutely now. Incidentally Penny Mordaunt, who’s eyeing up the Tory leadership, thinks women can have penises.

If Labour seriously want to win and take full advantage of the Tory mess, then they must win back the women and GC voters they have undoubtedly lost.

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RainbowZebraWarrior · 06/06/2022 22:11

PeekAtYou · 06/06/2022 21:48

I don't think he will but Long Covid would be a good excuse

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I don't think he will ever resign. He's an enabled narcissist. Also, he had ample opportunity to resign during and after his hugely exaggerated Covid episode.

However, there was a brief nanosecond when he and his wife realised they were hated during the Boos last weekend. Those boos will continue and will get louder.

His pathetic attempt to be Churchillian via the Ukraine's plight was the lowest of the low. I admire Zelensky massively, but he is deluded if he thinks De Pfeffel is altruistic in his motives.

He survived tonight. By a smaller majority than predicted. His party is a mess. All of his moderates have either left due to their own morals, or been bullied out. Including his own brother.

I look forward to watching his slow death, and that of his party.

Bouledeneige · 06/06/2022 22:17

He's done for. The Tory's are notoriously brutal about getting rid of deadweights who will be a liability at the ballot box. The result is far worse than his supporters thought. 40% of his MPs voting against him is the worst ever for a sitting PM - far worse than Theresa May. They will stab him in the front.

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WaitroseWoman · 06/06/2022 22:22

I don't think Johnson will resign either. Watching the video linked to in the OP tells us he thinks everyone else is wrong and he is right. He will carry on for as long as, and with as much as, he is allowed to get away with it.

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Wishfulthinking1977 · 06/06/2022 22:22

I was more concerned who would take over!! I'm not forgetting what he's done but it was slim pickings! Labour do now have a good chance at the next general election if they change leaders!

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WaitroseWoman · 06/06/2022 22:23

ABBA is blasting out to Downing Street just now.

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jgw1 · 06/06/2022 22:34

LakieLady · 06/06/2022 22:09

There's still the privileges committee report to come, that might make things more difficult.

And there's also the possibility of an opposition motion of no confidence. If the 140 who voted against him tonight did so again, along with SNP, LD and Labour MPs, it would pass.

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More likely most of them would abstain I would have thought.

FirstHusband · 06/06/2022 22:36

@thecatfromjapan @tobee @CapMarvel

When the election received Royal Assent, according to Yougov the state of play was Tories 36%, Labour 21%, LibDem 18%, Brexit 13% and Green 4%. Their final prediction was a 28 seat majority after the Brexit Party had been neutralised.

Johnson's 44%

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WaitroseWoman · 06/06/2022 23:00

Mumsnet is almost down for me tonight - posted in Site Stuff - and so I will follow DirtyteaCup in calling it a day for now.

Perhaps the Torybot gremlins are taking their revenge on Mumsnet...

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WaitroseWoman · 06/06/2022 23:24

2.7 million views of the video linked to in the OP.

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tobee · 06/06/2022 23:34

FirstHusband · 06/06/2022 22:36

@thecatfromjapan @tobee @CapMarvel

When the election received Royal Assent, according to Yougov the state of play was Tories 36%, Labour 21%, LibDem 18%, Brexit 13% and Green 4%. Their final prediction was a 28 seat majority after the Brexit Party had been neutralised.

Johnson's 44%

That makes things no clearer.

TossCointoYerWitcher · 06/06/2022 23:37

AlternativePerspective · 06/06/2022 22:09

but the party is fickle. They have voted against him this week, but all it takes is for him to bring in a couple of policies which MP’s will commend him for and suddenly he’ll have that trust back.

And I’m afraid I don’t trust the electorate to not vote them back in in the next GE.

You speak as if he'll suddenly start being component. Far more likely is he'll just lurch into another scandal... and then another... and then another... like he's being doing consistently for pretty much the last 12 months.

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WaitroseWoman · 07/06/2022 01:01

BJ responds to the vote earlier tonight:
www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-politics-61713913

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WaitroseWoman · 07/06/2022 01:04

Keir Starmer says 'Conservative MPs ignored fed up British public':
www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-politics-61714012

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WaitroseWoman · 07/06/2022 01:12

The BBC's Chris Mason earlier today on what led to PM confidence vote:

www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-politics-61703690

He doesn't mention the booing of BJ outside St Paul's on Friday - another deciding factor for some MPs.

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