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To feel sad for Prince Harry

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OldManRivers · 06/06/2022 12:07

Have been looking at the photos today of Harry in the car being driven from the airport in America back to his home. He looks so sad. It must be very difficult for him to attend a huge family occasion like that with his role drastically changed, and to see all of his family but now he's on the sidelines popping in so very sporadically.

Also I can't help but think he must feel sad to think his children won't grow up around their cousins, and extended family. Meghan doesn't have any family except her mother so they don't have any in America either.

Originally he and Meghan wanted to carry on being part of the royal machine and do appearances etc but also have some independence so it's not as though this life was their original plan, where it seems like they're sidelined and alienated. AIBU to think regardless of what's gone on it must be very hard for him to be in another country, away from his ailing grandmother who he is very close to, and feel like a bit of an outcast?

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MarieIVanArkleStinks · 06/06/2022 12:20

I'm a republican and it's very rare I have a supportive sentiment toward any one of these over-privileged, unelected people.

But I thought the booing of that couple - when presumably invited there by his grandmother who's event it was, after all - was disgusting behaviour and showed this country up in a very poor light. They are not unaware of the bias against them and showed a great deal of courage, grace and stoicism in the face of such palpable, open hostility. As for their own family, the only ones behaving with any kind of grace or humility were Zara and, funnily enough, the York sisters.

And if they did shoot off home early after such an antagonistic reception, it's not to be wondered at. I can't imagine for one moment how that might have felt. And then people wonder why they keep their children under wraps and don't want to come back here. I was surprised to see Markle on UK soil at any point after she originally left: she'd have been well within her rights never to return to this country no matter how many bridges were tentatively rebuilt.

I doubt she will again, and I wouldn't blame her in the slightest. I don't doubt she and Harry did have some legitimate complaints about the behaviour of that family - the wearing of a racist brooch in her presence and a likely raft of other things, it's not as though they don't have a well-documented past form.

The whole thing leaves a very bad taste in the mouth.

I haven't seen any of the footage; what did Zara / the York sisters do, please?

From what I have seen of Zara I quite like her, but I'm generally not a fan of the Royals so haven't seen much.

LondonWolf · 06/06/2022 13:17

I've been low/no contact with family and no matter how badly they've behaved it hurts a lot when you see them just carrying on having a great time together without you. Personally I took comfort in my own children and small family unit and that helped so I hope he can do that. I would suspect that Meghan was always very independent, looking to the future and so able to easily shake off what wasn't working for her - a good trait, so not criticising, but it may make her less able to understand what he has lost. That said I don't feel sorry for him though because I think he wanted out, which was fine, but convinced himself he was a real victim of cruelty and toxicity in order to justify it, thus the OW debacle. I do think though that they were probably pressured into it though. Hard to say no to people who are arranging mansions and security teams for you. Lots of obligation to OW et al. At the same time though, they're old enough to take some responsibility surely?

lickenchugget · 06/06/2022 13:18

No, you reap what you sow. What did he think would happen after slinging mud at his family on TV.

It was also really clear from all the footage of the young children and cousins that they spend a lot of time together, Harry chose to leave, that’s his prerogative but he doesn’t deserve sympathy.

lameasahorse · 06/06/2022 13:18

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DashboardConfessional · 06/06/2022 13:19

I mainly feel sorry for him because I believe one of the reasons they fell out was William's alleged affair, but this gets ignored, for obvious reasons.

Sparklybutold · 06/06/2022 13:20

Of all the people to feel sad for - Harry isn't one of them.

NiqueNique · 06/06/2022 13:22

It’s Princess Michael of Kent you’re discussing regarding the brooch, not the Duchess of Kent who is an entirely different woman and an altogether much nicer one!

Trulyweird1 · 06/06/2022 13:22

NiqueNique · 06/06/2022 13:15

Just a correction to pp’s post: It wasn’t the Duchess of Kent who wore said brooch! Katharine (who is married to the Duke of Kent, the Queen’s cousin) is a lovely woman who shouldn’t be tarred with that awful brush...

Absolutely, it was Princess Michael of Kent who wore the appalling brooch, and yes, I believe it was entirely intentional.

lameasahorse · 06/06/2022 13:22

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PinkSparklyPussyCat · 06/06/2022 13:23

The Duchess of Kent has form for racism.

If you're going to accuse someone of racism at least get the right person. Princess Michael of Kent wore the brooch, not the Duchess of Kent who is by all accounts a lovely woman.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 06/06/2022 13:26

The Duchess of Kent has form for racism

If you're thinking of the infamous brooch, it was Princess Michael of Kent who wore it. As the name suggests, the Duchess is married to the Duke of Kent - totally different people

BunsyGirl · 06/06/2022 13:27

@lameasahorse You are referring to Princess Michael of Kent, not the Duchess of Kent. They are two different people. Princess Michael is not British. She has German, Austrian and Hungarian ancestry and was born into what was then Nazi Germany. The Duchess of Kent is British and I not heard reports of her being racist.

StartupRepair · 06/06/2022 13:27

I'm not surprised if people were cool and distant with him given he is currently writing his memoirs about how badly he feels he has been treated.
He clearly had a troubled childhood and early adulthood. It would be great if he has found happiness now but I'm not convinced. Happy people do not spend all their time and energy rehashing past hurts and endlessly pursuing litigation.

jimboandthejetset · 06/06/2022 13:27

Maybe Harry was sad because he knows he'll never see his gran face to face again. She's not much longer for this world, let's be frank.
Surely his reaction is a normal human one.

LondonWolf · 06/06/2022 13:28

TomBradysLeftKneecap · 06/06/2022 12:52

I cannot stand Charles and think he has a lot to answer for in this whole debacle. Blowing Kate a kiss whilst completely ignoring his own son and his wife said a lot. And it’s perfectly ok for Harry to say he wants to keep his kids private to
protect them from the scrutiny he has struggled with his whole life. I mean, look at all the fuss about Louis and he’s only 4!

I think it's highly likely he blew the kiss because he couldn't give her a proper kiss on the cheek, which he would usually do, due to hat and make up. He and William looked really sad when they arrived, made me wonder if it had been made very clear that Harry and Meghan weren't looking for reconciliation.

NeedAHoliday2021 · 06/06/2022 13:28

I cried for an hour driving to the air port last time I visited my brother in North America. Does not mean I want to live there or I didn’t have a wonderful time but goodbyes across the pond are hard. I’m seeing him again in July and already dread the goodbye. It doesn’t mean I’m not happy with my life. Who drives to the airport grinning anyway? How can we possibly know what he’s thinking in that single snapshot?

fromdownwest · 06/06/2022 13:29

To be fair, looking at the current state of the nation and its finances, it is hard to feel sorry for a multi multi millionaire, who has no requriement to work, who eleceted to move across the world to move away from media coverage and sell his story to the highest paying bidder state side.

BattenbergdowntheHatches · 06/06/2022 13:31

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the80sweregreat · 06/06/2022 13:32

Maybe the details about this alleged affair of Williams in Norfolk and it's super injunction and all the rest of it might come out in Harry's new book ? Maybe this is why they all look tense and are a bit strange around him?
Maybe he'll hint at it enough for it all to kick off again ?

JemimaPuddlegoose · 06/06/2022 13:33

rather than some flimflam about Archie's skin colour. (I'm white, DH isn't and plenty of relatives on both sides made the same comment about DS before and after he was born).

Ah that old chestnut "I'm white but have mixed race kids ergo I'm qualified to tell you why black women are wrong and being oversensitive about racism."

Dinoteeth · 06/06/2022 13:34

JemimaPuddlegoose · 06/06/2022 13:17

You can't be half in and half out.

Except most of them ARE half in half out. There's no reason they couldn't have had the same deal as the York sisters or any of the others, who enjoy royal status, live in royal properties, are welcome at events, but are also free to work and use their royal titles for commercial and financial gain. If Peter Philips is allowed to film TV commercials in set made to look like Buckingham Palace, with a fake royal crest, explicitly saying, "I as a member of the British Royal Family endorse this brand of milk" then there's absolutely zero reason why Harry and Meghan shouldn't be allowed to work.

Neither the Yorks or the Phillips are classed as Senior Royals. They do the odd balcony appearance at Trooping the Colour and that's about it. None of them do Royal engagements opening stuff or garden parties.

Notice the balcony was very slimmed down this year.

lameasahorse · 06/06/2022 13:35

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Idontgiveashitanymore · 06/06/2022 13:36

He chose to slag off the royals, aww poor Harry 🤦‍♀️🤢😡