Boris no confidence vote…he’s going to win isn’t he?

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Spineless MPs….then he’ll limp along doing even more attention seeking stunts.

Jacob Rees-Mogg trying to defend him on BBC news now. What a sanctimonious prick he is. Is argument is that this vote is 'about a birthday cake' - they haven't got a clue how disconnected the general public feel from this bunch.

What has amazed me on this thread is the amount of posts saying there is no one capable to take over from him

the more people who realise this the better. The tories are more than Boris Johnson as labour are more than Kier Starmer. We’re not under a reign of a dynasties leadership by birthright. Leaders should represent their party not the other way around and to say, and truly believe, that there is no alternative to the current lot of familiar faces is to fundamentally shit on the principles of democracy.

imho we need a complete forest fire of current politicians to allow new shoots to prosper.

I think 15 percent of Conservative MP's have to submit letter to Brady DH or v poo the of no confidence. However they need more than 50 percent against him to defeat him. For that reason I think he is safe for now. The thing is once the vote has occurred, if Boris wins he is immune for a 1 year period. So they can't call another vote for 1 year. Then it is precariously close to next GE. I don't think there would be time for a new candidate to grab enough support ahead of next GE. At the moment there is no obvious successor. That may also affect how MP's vote tonight. Also over next year a successor may step up. There are rumors Hunt wants the job but he has no charisma and not popular with public so unlikely to win a GE. When he was Health minister NH service went into more dent and tottered from crisis to crisis.

I can’t listen to that abhorrent excuse of a man. His name alone gets the blood pressure up.

slimy, snivelling boot licker that he is. I would take great schaudenfraude in his downfall.

It will be useful to see how many Tory arseholes continue to support this disgusting man.

The nation at large, however....

Hunt has openly stated that he will be voting against Mr Johnson.

This county is bonkers. We are trying to get rid of sitting Prime minister

-whilst we are trying to recover from covid ( which has been brought on by lock downs and people screaming for longer harder ones)

-Sailing precariously close to a war with Russia whilst giving support to Ukraine. Tbh im really surprised ANYONE would want to take that mantle when they could be leading us through a war.

YEAH a reshuffle sound like a great idea!!

I was raging when I found out he had been to parties - but the reality of it was that they were all in the same bubble work, Keir and the Labour Party DID exactly the SAME but their is not the same about of media coverage. Even Angela Raynour lied about attending - hardly nothing about it in the press.

People quickly forget he secured the UK vaccine whilst other countries in the EU were still arguing about red tape. Yes we we all LOVED Bozza then!

He has had a targeted attack on him from certain media outlets who would NOT let this drop and let him get on with his work and sort the covid recovery mess out. The editing on the videos of him being booed is awful - the only reason to be doing that shit is to fool the public. Why would a media outlet what to do that?

But if you scrape the surface this is nothing more than a tactic to try and get us back in with the EU.

In the future ALL parties need sacking - all of them. You have the left who are saying women are BORN with penises and rapists should be allowed in womens prisons and the Right who took the piss in covid.

But right now I just wish they would allow him to get to fucking word and sort shit out.

The tone of this post sounds like that weird message Geri Halliwell made for the Queen's jubilee the other day.

Johnson will clearly win the vote of no confidence. Theresa May won a vote of no confidence in 2018, even though she was a dead duck after the 2017 election.

But it will be the beginning of the end.

The Conservatives had a different mechanism in place in 1989 when Thatcher began to make herself unpopular with the poll tax. Instead of submitting letters, there had to be a leadership challenge. The real challenger was Michael Heseltine but the actual candidate who stood against her was a previously invisible backbencher, Sir Anthony Meyer.

The idea was that if Thatcher failed to thrash this nobody in a ballot of Tory MPs, she would realise that her time was up and would voluntarily stand down. Then there could be an open leadership contest without her, so no-one would feel disloyal for voting against a sitting PM. She did thrash Meyer. He only got 10% of the vote. She was still pushed out the following year.

If they can do that to a PM who had won three elections including two landslides, and who hadn't broken any rules - even her opponents conceded that Thatcher was an honest and serious person - then they can ditch a shifty bullshit merchant like BoJo very quickly. It just won't happen today.

If I was a Tory*, he would be my choice, simply because he hasn't been tainted by being in Johnson's cabinet.

He also comes across as being reasonably sane and, I understand, very pleasant and personable. He was a client of the company my late DP worked for, and DP had a fair amount of contact with him (they were on first name terms). DP said he had to remind himself that he was a Tory, because he was always so nice on the phone, and not pompous or up himself at all.

*which I never would be, even in the weirdest of parallel universes.

I think 15 percent of Conservative MP's have to submit letter to Brady ... However they need more than 50 percent against him to defeat him

Ah, thank you caringcarer; I had an idea more than just the letter-writers needed to vote "no" in order to oust him, but wasn't sure of the numbers

This county is bonkers. We are trying to get rid of sitting Prime minister

-whilst we are trying to recover from covid ( which has been brought on by lock downs and people screaming for longer harder ones)

-Sailing precariously close to a war with Russia whilst giving support to Ukraine. Tbh im really surprised ANYONE would want to take that mantle when they could be leading us through a war.

You're right. It's a terrible time to have an unserious clown as our leader and he needs to be gotten rid of. Thank you for articulating this so well.

Give Labour time to put together a decent opposition maybe?

How much more time do they need? They ought to have been able to field a paper bag as a leader and it waltz into a poll lead, given the amount of ammunition the Tories have handed the Labour Party over the last few years. But no, all they’ve managed to do is alienate women.

@CapMarvel ”We are sleepwalking into fascism under Johnson.”

I see this statement a fair bit from certain quarters. What makes you think this?

As for the confidence vote, I think Johnson will probably scrape it, but be fatally (politically) wounded. I’m not a Tory voter but Hunt or Zahawi would be my preference.

That is exactly my position.

A shiny new leader, with unblotted copybook, would stand far more chance of winning a GE than the crapulent bloviator currently in charge.

That's why I want Johnson to win, but only by a narrow margin.
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The kind of Companies that shower would get a job at don't mind a bit of bad PR. Cummings wasn't an elected representative.
Ree-Mogg doesn't need to work (don't know about the others), and if they aren't re-elected they will all get significant amounts of state money money including but not limited to, a very generous pension.

@cheekyfucker101 120+ FPNs were issued to 10 Downing Street. 0 have been issued to Keir Starmer. More than 120 breaches of the law is definitely not the same as 0 breaches of the law.

@cheekyfucker101

The UK replaced it's PM during WW2.

France held a presidential election in April.

The idea that we carry on with an incompetent PM because it's a bit inconvienient is the shittest of shit excuses.

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But that alternative won't be Labour for many people
Doesn’t matter. Under FPTP we either get a Tory PM or a Labour PM. People deciding not to vote Tory harms their electoral chances, even if they switch to a small “no hope of leading a government” party rather than Labour. Fingers crossed they keep Boris in place tonight. We’ve already had one old Etonian Tory running away after losing their Brexit vote, now we have the prospect of another running away just 18 months after we actually left the EU. The Tories need to stop running away and deal with the consequences of their policies.

But right now I just wish they would allow him to get to fucking word and sort shit out.

@cheekyfucker101 you do know that Johnson does nothing? He did NOT Pull off the vaccine programme. He does nothing whatsoever that is not a direct benefit to himself. He's renowned for being very lazy as well as a consummate liar. I also wish he'd sort shit out. He's had long enough and achieved fuck all. Reintroduction of imperial measures, anyone?

Give Labour time to put together a decent opposition maybe?

How much time do they need??!

But yes of course he'll win. We won't get rid of the bastard until he decides he's good and ready. And there is an alarming proportion of the UK population who seem to think that is a good thing.

Nadine Dorries is having a go at Jeremy Hunt on twitter now for daring to vote against her beloved boris. She insinuated he was a terrible health secretatry for 6 years, which doesn't exactly cover her party in glory.

I think if he wins and hangs on for another 10 months he will call snap GE immediately after stating pensioners will get to get triple lock back again and so win back his core seniors voters who he lost support from when he cut the triple lock for a year. They protest vote by not showing up for by elections. Seniors have highest turn out at GE than any other group. Young people have lowest turnout. If young people want a change they need to turn out to vote not whinge and stay home.

Braverman on radio saying Sue Gray report was "frustrating and disappointing". This woman is supposed to uphold the law fgs. What a bunch of pathetic creeps! Glad I didn't hear the execrable Mogg..would have hurled the radio through the window!

No point emailing my Conservative MP about it, as we have Boris Johnson!