Boris no confidence vote…he’s going to win isn’t he?

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Spineless MPs….then he’ll limp along doing even more attention seeking stunts.

Want him gone

^^ I agree with every word of this! But every finger, toe and paw is being crossed in our house that he goes!

I hope not. I still feel ill from the graphic excerpt I saw from one of them.

Cameron lost very heavily in the locals in 2012, 3 years later, got a decent majority.

3 years is an eternity in politics.
Johnson's local election losses were only just over a month ago.

They probably won't get rid of Johnson though. And there's the rub

If not tonight, later in the year, he is too tainted now and a laughing stock, he even dresses like a tramp and appears to be half cut.
Surprised Labour haven't capitalised on this derision with a handy 3 word slogan.... the TOries would have.

Let's just completely ignore all the thousands of businesses that he and his party saved from going under during Covid when the government offered grants to businesses affected by Covid.

Let's just completely ignore all the millions of workers that got paid 80% of their wages during the effects of Covid, and who would have otherwise been laid off by their employers.

Let's just completely ignore all this extra money being paid to the whole country to help cover Council Tax, Gas, Electric, and even more being handed out to those on benefits.

Let's just completely ignore the impressive roll-out of vaccines and vaccine centers that were swiftly offered to the public during Covid, in order to vaccinate 45 million Brits and save thousands of lives.

Let's just completely ignore the impressive £2.8 billion that our government has sent in aid to back Ukraine.

Let's just completely ignore the 14% (£22.5 Billion) EXTRA in funding given to the NHS for the 2022/2023 tax year compared to 2019/2020 (pre-Covid level).

All completed with Boris in the chair.

Honestly, how do some of you think our country would be any better with another party in power after everything that's happened/happening in the world?
Stop believing everything you read in the Daily Mail and do your own research.

... the next GE is likely 2 years away though... similarly a very long time in politics...
i just think that anyone who says Labour will form a coalition with LD's in 2 years time, based on local gov elections, might not be correct.

@andymary Every western Govt across the world is doing or has done these things
anyone would have done similar.

...and lets not forget the delays in LD's, partying whilst we all were forced under threat of arrest, to obey HIS laws.
..and the highest death toll (overall) in Western Europe.

On the NHS, if they hadn't underfunded it for 12 years, it wouldn't need this cash injection which will do nothing for staff shortages as they are baked in and this extra money doesn't even address social care :(

I think he'll win, but it's damaging none the less.
You can't really get around that aspect of it.

I have no confidence in the Tory party! No decent alternative either if he does lose. Like choosing between a kick in the fanny or a punch in the face.

I think he will win as it will mean more drama and diversion tactics and not having to actually do any work while feathering their own nest, which to me is what the Tory party stand for.

Obviously anything could happen in 2 years. But I think we can agree the chances of Johnson suddenly concocting brilliant policies that make voters forget that they hate him in the middle of a cost of living crisis are... slim.

Labour keeping its head down and doing just well enough may not be sexy or inspiring, but that's first past the post for you.

Errr what? I'm not sure what a name change 2 months ago has anything to do with my valid points.

He'll win but this is the tories way of putting him on notice publicly

Let's not forget that most of the things he has done which are said to be benefits are after some hapless Tory got wheeled out on TV to defend their policy and then whoops, stonking U-turn as soon as he's out of the studio.

Oh, so you're an entirely separate poster suggesting only Big Dog could have given handouts during a pandemic, even though every other western leader did as well.

My mistake.

@andymary any party in government would have taken the same or better measures for COVID. Furlough schemes in many EU countries were better run and more generous than the UK's.

If the Tories hadn't run down the NHS, they wouldn't have needed so much money to plug the gap for COVID - and let's not forget that Brexit has made staff shortages in the NHS much, much worse.

Let's also not forget the PPE contracts for cronies, which have cost billions.

Let's remember that EUropean countries rapidly caught with and then overtook the UK on COVID vaccines.

Many EU countries have cost of living support far, far more generous than is available in the UK.

Be a Tory sycophant if you want, but at least be honest and acknowledge the many mistakes.

Personally I'd love to see Boris win the confidence vote and then watch those two byelections turn to elecotral disaster for him.

I think it’s probably best that he does win. Hopefully if he’s still there by the next election, the voting public will deliver the punishment he so richly deserves and we’ll have a long overdue change of government.

What has amazed me on this thread is the amount of posts saying there is no one capable to take over from him. If this is the case then how are these mp's getting voted in, in the first place? Why are we as the electorate voting in incapable people to do some of the most responsible jobs in the country?

Sadly I think he will survive the vote tonight, the tories will not want the gravy train to stop, Boris has kept the money coming in for so many mp's and their families, pub landlords, friends, Russian friends etc........ that they don't want that to be stopped abruptly. He should go, he needs to go but sadly the tories are too greedy to see it.

"Every western Govt across the world is doing or has done these things
anyone would have done similar."
So we weren't left behind. 1-0 to BJ.

"...and lets not forget the delays in LD's, partying whilst we all were forced under threat of arrest, to obey HIS laws."
Millions of people broke the laws. What a waste of time and money all these allegations and "investigations" have been.

"..and the highest death toll (overall) in Western Europe."
This just isn't a legitimate fact at all.

"On the NHS, if they hadn't underfunded it for 12 years, it wouldn't need this cash injection which will do nothing for staff shortages as they are baked in and this extra money doesn't even address social care :("
All due to overpopulation - nothing to do with the way it's being financed. This will only get worse year on year as the country, and world's population increases and more and more people need health or social care.

I thought I must have misremembered, but it seems I was right.

Labour leadership election 2015

I hadn't realised the 1922 Committe had enough letters, but didn't a load of MPs retract them last time this came up?

Anyway Boris will be spinning like a dervish buying them off with promises of promotion and god knows what else, so I'll be very surprised if this ends with him going
As ever though, time will tell ...

Are you really trying to insinuate that I'm someone else, just because my views on something are different from yours?
Wow. I'd appreciate it if you stop falsely accusing me of something.

""Every western Govt across the world is doing or has done these things
anyone would have done similar."
So we weren't left behind. 1-0 to BJ."

I like how your argument effortlessly changed from 'only johnson could do that' to 'it was good we did what everyone else was doing'.

With that kind of intellectual flexibility you should apply to join the cabinet.

With Johnson as her chisel slack jawed hero? Still I guess her novels might be useful if there's another toilet roll crisis.