Dad in women's loo .

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I have been to the loo in Mc Donald's and was mid flow when a dad walks in with his daughters aged about 4 and 6.He stands waiting while his daughters are using the toilet. I came out and said you are not supposed to be in here.
He said he had to take his daughters to the loo and I told him that he needed to either wait outside or take them the mens. He said they don't need to see that and I told him that he shouldn't be hanging round in women's toilets for any reason. His sense of entitlement gave me the rage so I told a member of staff. I can only imagine how triggering that could be for some women. Intrusive fucker.

Lead by the feminist section of Mumsnet. And people wonder why my female peers raise an eyebrow when I mention this forum.

@Oscarthedog Nope, all he had to do is wait at the entrance like any other parent does. Very simple.

@Alb0

I have bladder weakness so I use them a lot. I have also been having periods for 26 years now so I have dealt with my fair share of menstrual blood. I use period pants and would never consider rinsing them in public because that would be disgusting and shows a total lack of consideration for anyone who wants to use the sink afterwards.

You can just buy radar keys from amazon, thats where we get my husbands from, you can get a pack of three for about £10.

It's really not that difficult. Just take them into the men's. If there's anything to see (which many people have commented that there usually isn't), put your hand over their eyes, tell them to look away and hustle them into a cubicle.

It's not rocket science. What do you think I do with my 5yo boy in communal changing-rooms when women are walking around getting changed? He's never seen anything to traumatise him and nor has he been allowed to make anyone else feel uncomfortable.

Then you're being silly. The sinks are what they're there for. Luckily I haven't come across your attitude before this thread.

You can pick RADAR keys up from amazon for about five pounds

Ah yes so dismissive to think a man innocently toileting his child is going to attack me in the public toilets. Of course the bigger picture is that it’s a carefully thought out plan by men to invade all female spaces for their own sick urges. I’ll resign immediately.

I have PCOS, I have incredibly heavy periods.

The risk that males pose to females and the risk of allowing males to breech female safe spaces has been explained multiple times, incredibly eloquently on this thread. That you refuse to join the dots and understand the basic principles of safeguarding is your choice.

But it wasn’t a lone man was it, it was a man toileting his young daughter. Let’s be sensible about the situation, all this hysteria about such a non event undermines the female safe space movement.

I’m completely bemused by it. I know this isn’t what the thread is about but I’ve leaked blood onto my underwear many a time but never, ever felt the need to wash them in public. I’ve never seen anyone else doing it either.

And does that then mean you then put the soaking wet underwear back on? Or do you hang them up to dry under the dryers?

This. Vanish Oxy stain remover gets very old stains out. There’s no excuse for it and I’m delighted to say I’ve never seen a woman wash her knickers in public.

Trans rights activists made this a ‘trans’ issue when they said that ANY man who says he is a woman is a woman. He doesn’t even have to present as a woman. That’s the point.

Op you were not being U. Single sex spaces mean that adults of the opposite sex should not be in them. There are women who are not comfortable with men being in the bathroom when they are there. These women are entitled to single sex spaces for reasons of privacy, dignity and safety. He should have stood by the door or ensured that he was safely able to take them to a cubicle in the men’s loo. My DH would not dream of taking young DC into a women’s loo because he’s not a dick and he respects women have the right to privacy.

@Alb0 the sinks are for washing hands

I have an unpleasant history but this really wouldn't bother me. He's with his kids, there's a legitimate reason, he's behind cubicle doors. I wouldn't want to take my 4 year old into the men's toilets.

A man on there own, absolutely not but this wouldn't even be on my radar.

I take my 8 Yr old autistic non verbal son in to the women's toilets with me. Never had a single woman say a thing to me about doing so either.
Probably have to start using the disabled loo instead though going by some comments in here...
Perhaps I'm completely naive in thinking that no one will pay any attention to me and my boring life.

He should have felt able to use the accessible/disabled/baby change toilet, but he probably felt wrong doing that too. He was right not to take them into the mens though.

Hysteria is a misogynistic term used to silence women.

You don’t base safeguarding protocols on the best case scenario. Males should not be in female spaces. Once you start saying that some can because they’re probably not a risk, it is no longer a female safe space. Safeguarding is about making it more difficult for predators to access vulnerable people. It is all about the bigger picture. This is the thin end of the wedge.

Hysteria is a misogynistic term used to silence women

Good thing it doesn’t work.

Excellent point
I’ll rephrase
Hysteria is a misogynistic term used to attempt to silence women

My son is also autistic and non verbal and, if there is no 'disabled' toilet available (which your son is perfectly entitled to use) I take him into the ladies. Am I fuck sending him into the men's on his own.

@YouSetTheTone

Trans rights activists made this a ‘trans’ issue when they said that ANY man who says he is a woman is a woman. He doesn’t even have to present as a woman. That’s the point.

But in this particular case he didn't say he was a woman. This is a dad, presumably identifying as a dad. No need to bring anything else into it.

"I take my 8 Yr old autistic non verbal son in to the women's toilets with me. Never had a single woman say a thing to me about doing so either.
Probably have to start using the disabled loo instead though going by some comments in here..."

At 8 that is fine but soon it will be better if you use the accessible toilet instead. I have a non verbal autistic teenager and I stopped taking him into the ladies around 9/10.

But ‘everything else’ comes into it by the nature of the discussion. This is a discussion about women being uncomfortable with men in their bathrooms. TRA have fought for men to have access to women’s bathrooms purely because they think they’re women.
Who knows what gender this father thinks he is? We may have all been hideously misgendering him on this very thread.
The point is that whether or not he thinks he’s a woman, TRA have normalised his access into women’s spaces.
The fact that someone says ‘maybe he’s a woman’ over this AIBU shows how men accessing women’s spaces has been brought into the public sphere. It’s not my fault this has happened, and it’s perfectly relevant to discuss it as part of this thread.