Dad in women's loo .

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I have been to the loo in Mc Donald's and was mid flow when a dad walks in with his daughters aged about 4 and 6.He stands waiting while his daughters are using the toilet. I came out and said you are not supposed to be in here.
He said he had to take his daughters to the loo and I told him that he needed to either wait outside or take them the mens. He said they don't need to see that and I told him that he shouldn't be hanging round in women's toilets for any reason. His sense of entitlement gave me the rage so I told a member of staff. I can only imagine how triggering that could be for some women. Intrusive fucker.

Ah, 100% of my experiences in public toilets hve been factually wrong.

This.

Anyway I suspect thus bloke was just performance parenting. There was no need for him to be anywhere except outside the door.

@Simonjt but it's not against the law to use the disabled facilities if you're not disabled, it is however against the law for men to enter womens facilities, nice try no cigar. Also the accessible facilities are most often doubled up as baby changing areas, so perfectly reasonable to use them for young children.

My dh took our DD's at that age and they went in the mens or the disabled.

No WAY would he go in the womens. Because he's not a weirdo.

It isn’t illegal no, but it is an incredibly scummy and selfish thing to do, I really hope the law is changed soon to stop those without disabilities taking over facilities for people with disabilities. Yes, lots of disabled facilities have a baby change because guess what, people with disabilities often have children.

Just asked my resident penis-bearer.

"D'you ever see penises in gents' toilets?"
"No."
"Ever??"
"No"

Your personal experience is not wrong, but you cannot speak for the personal experiences of all men nor have you been to every mens toilet in the U.K. So suggest you open your mind a bit to the experiences of other men in the U.K. and what they have to say about urinal types.

I take my children (a bit younger than OP’s kids) swimming at a local swim school for children aged up to 8.

Every term we get an email asking us to please use the changing facilities that correspond with the sex of the adult in attendance, not the sex of the child attending.

I thought that was the accepted way of supervising young children in single sex facilities. I’ve never once in my whole life seen a father come in the ladies’ changing rooms or loos with his daughters.

Yes, lots of disabled facilities have a baby change because guess what, people with disabilities often have children

More people without disabilities have children so why are baby changes only put in the disabled loo? It’s pretty obvious they’re meant to be used by all parents.

I’m pleased to discover that you yourself have been in more mens public toilets than me.

I’m pleased to discover that you yourself have been in more mens public toilets than me.

I most assuredly have not as I am a woman. But my DH might have been. Depends on how old you are 😀

Women change out in the open in the womens toilets because the cubicles are too small. Sometimes in groups if you're going out clubbing or somewhere.

I don't know if you've ever had a sudden 'flood', but leaving it stains your underwear permanently. Women know you can't 'leave it till you get home' with period stains. And if you have no underwear spare on you, of course you are going to wash them and dry them under the dryer and put them on, unless you suggest a woman on here period with sanitary pads (that need underwear to stick on to) walks about knickerless.

My dh has done similar when ds was small but he shouldn’t have to. Women are no longer the default parent so why hasn’t society changed to reflect that? I’m not saying this man was right but I would not have sent my ds into the mens toilet alone aged 4 or 6 with a friendly request to a stranger to keep an eye on him, he came in with me. Why should men be expected to abandon their dc to a stranger? There should be family toilets or similar to overcome this issue.

Or who has the weakest bladder!!! A type 1 diabetic I might win that one 🤣

He was between a rock and a hard place and he chose the most sensible option, imo. It would be great if there were family toilets but there’s no space in every building.

You may find male presenting people for legitimate reasons - male bathroom attendants, etc. This is one of the legitimate reasons. I find it unacceptable that you were so rude to him in front his children.

It wasn't my statement. It was quincythequince that said that. You replied, and I replied to your response to them. Though with all the long quoting it can get confusing.

When did the womens toilets become the designated family ones? The queues are bad enough as it is. Yes small boys if they are with their mothers need to be there as small girls need to be in the mens.

Its men and women not men and everyone else. Women are always expected to make space - how about the men campaign for better facilities and more dad friendly toilets.

I have had floods in public. I tend to use loo roll to blot up any that gets on my knickers, put a new tampon in and large pad on and then leave it till I get home. You can actually leave it. Blood doesn’t set in cloth unless it is washed with hot water. It can dry and be washed out later with cold water. I’d never strip and wash bloody knickers in public. That’s just foul imho.

It's not only women who use women's toilets. Other small girls do as well, unaccompanied.

Is their safety less important than the girls being accompanied by their male parent?

The safety of all girls is most effectively promoted by ALL MEN staying out of female loos, no excuses.

Ah, yes it can get confusing.

Just asked DH and he said he doesn't see mens penises when he goes into the toilets.

Also I’m sorry but someone washing out their bloody knickers is 100% not something I wish to see. I don’t understand. I’ve had heavy ones spring on me but I put tissue on the knickers and find some sanpro. I’m afraid the knickers would just have to be written off. What do you do while washing them? Just bleed on your clothes/down your legs?? That is much more triggering for me than a man waiting for his little girls.

Just asked DH and he said he doesn't see mens penises when he goes into the toilets.

Not every woman can use a tampon. And no one mentioned 'stripping off', you just remove your underwear while still wearing skirt/dress/trousers. Many women do this, it's what the sink is for. It's not 'foul' at all, it is a normal part of life for women. And yes, dried blood does stain, hot water has nothing to do with it.