Nursing should be re-named?

[SunshinePie]

Was pondering over this recently, is calling “nursing” is a bit old fashioned? You now need a degree to be a nurse, and they often are pretty much doing junior doctor jobs. Calling it something else that recognises it’s academic demands, and also more inclusive to males wanting to work in the field…something like Healthcare Medic / Healthcare Practitioner/ Assistant Medic…. Or similar, you get the idea….

-YABU, it should be kept “nurse”, it’s traditional and has roots in “nursing an infant” ie breastfeeding (that reflects the caring nature)

-YANBU it’s old fashioned, insulting to people with degrees and esp males.

Good grief

Yup

A 'healthcare medic' is a doctor

Aren't health care titles confusing enough without changing one of the ones that even relatively confused patients know what it means, and trust?

You're right that some don't give nurses the credit they deserve. Changing the title isn't going to change the views held hy those people though

I think Nurses probably have bigger things to worry about

Mmmm.

I don't think most people understand the role of a nurse now.

However I do think basic nursing care is the most integral part of the role

I'm not sure a name change would change perceptions anyway

They don't do the job of a junior doctor Often they have more experience in a specific area and can give some pointers in that area, but that's it. Nursing is primarily a caring role, not a diagnostic one and treatment planning one, like doctors.

What's wrong with the term nursing?

No it shouldn't be changed. But I do believe it should be a protected title. I get a lot of people claiming they're a nurse when they're actually a health care assistant.

@holid

not a diagnostic one and treatment planning one, like doctors.

Nursing absolutely covers diagnostics and treatment planning. Especially ANPs and CNS

Most FY1s on wards rely massively on nursing staff. Most doctors of all levels rely massively on nursing staff to be able to carry out their role

Insulting to males?
The very fuck?!!!
Care to come back and explain that one?

You what now?!

I’m really proud to be a nurse. I work hard to be able to call myself a nurse and would be really upset if that got taken away.

What do you mean insulting to males? Every male nurse that I know is equally proud to be a nurse.

Every nurse I've ever met would strongly disagree. They became nurses because they wanted to nurse. They don't need a makeover.

Nurse is a title to be proud of. And I have never met a male nurse that didn’t like being called a Nurse 🤔

You know that the verb 'to nurse' also means to give medical attention? To be able to give medical attention, you need to be adequately educated.

Hence the name 'nurse'.

It's not derogatory, it's not sexist, and it's not insulting. Stop looking for issues where there aren't any.

YABU to be bothered about the 'insult to males'.

What have they ever done for us?

Jeez.

You seem to have a really odd perspective of nursing.

YABU

What do you mean insulting to males? Every male nurse that I know is equally proud to be a nurse.

Exactly! Male nurses chose to go into nursing, and I haven't seen any campaigning to rename their profession. They do ask for the resources they need to do their job, but they're happy with the job title.

Teachers didn't use to need degrees.

They do now.

So what should we call them to reflect this?

Yabu btw! Everyone knows what a nurse does and that they now need degrees.

There are already Nurse Practitioners, aren't there? My GP surgery has them - they can issue prescriptions and so on.

1. Nurses do not do the job of a doctor, junior or otherwise. ANPs plug gaps that should be filled by doctors; they perform a highly protocolised form of "medicine" that relies heavily on guidelines because they lack the proper medical education that is essential to being a doctor.

1. Doctors should not be ashamed to say that they provide a totally unique role. Nurses also provide a totally unique role they should be proud of. One cannot become the other unless they go back to university and start from scratch.

1. FY1s certainly do not rely on nurses, and often have to carry out their work in spite of poor attitudes and harassment on the wards. Many FY1s, particularly female ones, are actively bullied and disrespected by nursing staff.

How is it insulting for males?

Proud nurse here!!

Of course we don’t need to be re-named.