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To be shocked by the leavers jumpers

270 replies

Itsmytreehouse · 01/06/2022 14:48

My dd is leaving primary school this July and we have been sent a link to order leaver jumpers.
The design has their school name and year on the front in large letters and on the back their teachers name and class mates names (including surname) with hand written messages of good luck printed all over.
I might be over reacting but I’m seeing it as a safeguarding concern that these kids will be wearing them around showing their name and school in public. (They’ve been asked to wear them to school for all next term as part of their leavers production outfit)
Should I point this out to the school or forget about it?

OP posts:
JustLyra · 01/06/2022 16:06

Namechangehereandnow · 01/06/2022 16:00

You’re massively over reacting!

fwiw, if a child/young person was on the ‘no photos’ list etc (for personal preference or safeguarding), their names were not allowed on the jumpers - I felt that was more conspicuous and unfair than their name being there tbh.

If it was just first names they’d likely be able to be on there. Therefore both safe and not conspicuous,..

Jeansgoals · 01/06/2022 16:07

It's just unnecessary, isn't it.

JustLyra · 01/06/2022 16:07

GeorgiaGirl52 · 01/06/2022 16:05

Maybe it matters to the three Tylers and the two Jennifers in the class who would like to be more individualized?
Don't be THAT parent.

Because obviously that’s way more important than any safeguarding of any other kids…

CapMarvel · 01/06/2022 16:10

Realistically what risk does a tiny name on the back of a jumper pose to anyone?

balalake · 01/06/2022 16:13

You are not overreacting OP. First names only, and perhaps the first letter of a surname if there are two with the same first name.

In any case, at times when many could face or are facing financial hardship, should low use clothing be encouraged?

Tell the school in person or by phone call, don't just email or text. Make it clear that this must be changed. Give them a deadline, say of a couple of days, then take it further.

EvilPea · 01/06/2022 16:15

CapMarvel · 01/06/2022 16:10

Realistically what risk does a tiny name on the back of a jumper pose to anyone?

It can give away areas and feeder schools.

EvilPea · 01/06/2022 16:16

1st names here too. I’m amazed anyone thought surnames was ok

rnsaslkih · 01/06/2022 16:16

hmm I think yanbu. The jumper should have names as Katy S rather than Katy Smith. I wouldn’t say anything though.

PeanuttyButter · 01/06/2022 16:17

I am pretty sure a school leaver knows all about stranger danger etc.

galvanizethis · 01/06/2022 16:18

12yearsinazkaban · 01/06/2022 15:11

People who can identify a safeguarding risk?
people who have fell victim to an abuser or preditor because they had access to information to forge trustworthiness?
people who have had to see and deal with the consequences of what happens when a paedophile rapes or sexually assaults a child?

yes those people exist. And yes they can become concerned when their child's personal information is paraded around on a platter.

All it takes is
"hi little boy, my son John Smith goes to your school, do you know him? Let's go find out if he wants to go to mcdonalds with you. get in the car"

very easy when school name, class, teachers name and the names of all of your school chums are on your hoodie

Well said. It's sad but true..

Villagewaspbyke · 01/06/2022 16:19

as long as the parents choose whether or not their kid is included it’s not a safeguarding risk. These are children leaving primary school- if they are vulnerable enough that suggesting you are the parent of a child on their shirt makes them go off with you then tbh any ruse would likely work.

Fair enough children who may have reasons to have their identity hidden should be excluded. But other than that, you are being ridiculous

MintJulia · 01/06/2022 16:20

That's exactly what ours were like. I'm not sure it's a safeguarding risk, it's just a bunch of names and the assumption they are 11yo. No contact details or pictures.

Even if one fell into the wrong hands, what could they do with it?

MissMaple82 · 01/06/2022 16:20

Its not over thought of for those that do actually have a safety concern!

AliMonkey · 01/06/2022 16:20

I’m with you. Ours were first names only with option of also having own first name in big letters (which I wouldn’t let my DC have put on). Is it eg the PTA organising who aren’t quite as safeguarding aware? Am very surprised if no one has raised it before (or that school hasn’t worked it out for themselves).

Heifer · 01/06/2022 16:21

DDs school won't print full names on their leavers hoodie due to safeguarding and she is leaving Yr13! (she is 18)..

IbizaToTheNorfolkBroads · 01/06/2022 16:21

School name and first name only on ours. We are sufficiently rural that there is only 1 possible school for children to move on to without going private, or moving house. There is a looked after child in DD’s class whose name has been omitted from the main design, deliberately by request of their foster family. Their name will be embroidered on the front on their hoody, but will not appear on everybody else’s.

JustLyra · 01/06/2022 16:22

PeanuttyButter · 01/06/2022 16:17

I am pretty sure a school leaver knows all about stranger danger etc.

Stranger danger isn’t the only, or even main, issue.

MissMaple82 · 01/06/2022 16:22

So many ignorant comments on here!

AliMonkey · 01/06/2022 16:23

Also school definitely should not have included your DC’s full name without your permission (and if they were to ask permission then more likely for more children to be left out than if just first names). So just wrong on all levels.

Villagewaspbyke · 01/06/2022 16:24

galvanizethis · 01/06/2022 16:18

Well said. It's sad but true..

A 10 or 11 year old child who would go off with a stranger on that pretext would equally go off to see puppies, etc. it’s not a safeguarding risk. Teach your child not to go off with strangers. If they are vulnerable you will need to keep an eye on them. A leavers hoodie is neither here nor there.

familyissues12345 · 01/06/2022 16:26

I arranged our year 6 hoodies, no surnames and it was the parents choice if their child's name was in bigger letters on their back.

Our school wouldn't allow surnames and rightly so in my opinion. It's just not needed ?!

Villagewaspbyke · 01/06/2022 16:26

JustLyra · 01/06/2022 16:22

Stranger danger isn’t the only, or even main, issue.

What on earth is the issue with having some names on a jumper then?

IncyWincyGrownUp · 01/06/2022 16:29

Our sixes got their hoodies in September, so they actually got some use out of them. How the fuck is having seven weeks to swag about school in them fun?

Surnames are really not needed. As much as they look like trash after a year, the whole giant numbers infilled with first names thing on the back, with school crest on the front seems to be the go to.

Villagewaspbyke · 01/06/2022 16:34

EvilPea · 01/06/2022 16:15

It can give away areas and feeder schools.

To whom??? Assuming everyone has consented to having their name on there, what possible issue is there? If you’re in witness protection, decline to put your kids name on it. Done.

hotmess19 · 01/06/2022 16:36

neverbeenskiing · 01/06/2022 15:36

Theres no way a child in foster care’s name should be printed, in full, on anything that’s going to identify their school to anyone that a child wearing a hoodie wandering in public is going to see.

Bit of a generalisation. There are all kinds of circumstances that lead to a child being in Foster care. I can think of several kids off the top of my head that I've worked with who this wouldn't apply to because the only person who is a risk to them is already fully aware of their name and what school they go to. Being in Foster care doesn't automatically mean they're in hiding.

This... with bells on!
I was in foster care and I wasn't in hiding, and no one (but me) was a risk to me. Being in foster care is not automatically a reason why kids can't be in photos or have their name printed out...
And everyone who ever was a risk to me (not relatives) all knew my name, which school I went to, the name of my teachers... way before they abused me, and I can't remember a single instance of them using that information to abuse me.