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To be shocked by the leavers jumpers

270 replies

Itsmytreehouse · 01/06/2022 14:48

My dd is leaving primary school this July and we have been sent a link to order leaver jumpers.
The design has their school name and year on the front in large letters and on the back their teachers name and class mates names (including surname) with hand written messages of good luck printed all over.
I might be over reacting but I’m seeing it as a safeguarding concern that these kids will be wearing them around showing their name and school in public. (They’ve been asked to wear them to school for all next term as part of their leavers production outfit)
Should I point this out to the school or forget about it?

OP posts:
LizzieBananas · 01/06/2022 15:38

There’s a massive difference between 120 Y11 full names which makes it impossible to read at anything further than about four inches and about to scatter to the four corners of the country and 20-30 full names which the people involved will wear at the same primary for a term and around the town for a couple of years to come.

Not the same and you should complain.

MrsPelligrinoPetrichor · 01/06/2022 15:39

AliBaliBears · 01/06/2022 15:37

While I wouldn't expect the average parent to be thinking along those lines, I would absolutely expect professionals working in a school to realise the potential risk of disclosing full name and school to the public without parental agreement. The risk of it leading to an adverse event may be tiny bit that adverse event itself could be massive.

Spot on.

Barkingmadhouse · 01/06/2022 15:40

Full names on every leavers jumper I've ever seen - you're overreacting

Walkaround · 01/06/2022 15:40

Full names could be a safeguarding concern for some. Pretty irrelevant as a concern for most. It is wrong not to ask specifically whether parents are willing to have their children’s full names included before printing - it is their children’s data, after all. First names only is a compromise for those parents who have good reasons not to want their children’s full names included and those who suffer from an excess of paranoia. As for leavers’ hoodies and whether kids wear them for long, mine wore theirs for years afterwards - until they were far too small to keep wearing.

grafittiartist · 01/06/2022 15:42

I don't think that surnames should be there either. First names only.

TigerLilyTail · 01/06/2022 15:44

I would mention to the people who organized it that you’d rather surnames be left off. Yes, it’s a PITA to be that parent but it is a safeguarding concern for many reasons.

ImAbsolutelyTwatted · 01/06/2022 15:44

Our leaver hoodies are initials only. Printed on the front under the school logo and the back has 22 with all the class' initials inside. We did get them at the start of the year so got our monies worth.

JustLyra · 01/06/2022 15:44

AliBaliBears · 01/06/2022 15:37

While I wouldn't expect the average parent to be thinking along those lines, I would absolutely expect professionals working in a school to realise the potential risk of disclosing full name and school to the public without parental agreement. The risk of it leading to an adverse event may be tiny bit that adverse event itself could be massive.

This exactly.

Tessasanderson · 01/06/2022 15:45

If my tow kids hoodies were anything to go by i had to scan the jumper for 30 mins before i found their names (Surnames included). I was never that up to date with my kids classmates names because for me it was just a jumble of names that meant nothing.

Honestly, it just feels like another bit of innocence in our childs lives being invaded. School plays, sports days etc etc.

dinosauriam · 01/06/2022 15:46

In my experience, these hoodies never get any wear. Once you have left Senior School the last thing you want to do is wear a hoody linking you to an earlier life stage lol.

Williamshatnershorses · 01/06/2022 15:47

I get you OP. I think if you are involved with or work somewhere where you are in contact with young people who are in complicated situations, then you can see why these hoodies might be a problem in certain limited situations.

Abraxan · 01/06/2022 15:49

Meredusoleil · 01/06/2022 15:22

Abbreviated school name ie the letters that make up the parts in acronym form and first names only. Of all the children in the year group ie 90-120.

Would not be happy with full names, teacher's name and full name of school personally. And I say that as both a teacher and a parent!

These days a child's every day uniform jumper and polo shirt, and usually book bags too, has the full name of the school on let alone a hoodie for year 6 leavers.

motogirl · 01/06/2022 15:51

There's kids walking around in them everywhere here, yes they school is on the front, logo not large, and on the back are the names in fairly small font spelling 22 - unless you are very close and you look very carefully you cannot see the names

madasawethen · 01/06/2022 15:52

we had them decades ago. first and last name. Never an issue. They'll wear them a few times and it'll go into a drawer as a keepsake.

Hunderland · 01/06/2022 15:53

You can ask for your child's name not to be included.

motogirl · 01/06/2022 15:55

My kids had them for leaving high school (14) and had full names on them, thankfully they hadn't been dreamt up when they left primary. One of my DD's had a design that allowed you to have a name/nickname on it as well in large letters she has her nickname, others had full name

Hoolahoophop · 01/06/2022 15:55

There a child at my DC primary who was marched out of the hall when parents took photos of their kids after the nativity. Before then photos were strictly banned. Poor little thing looked so sad. I can't believe op I'd being given a hard time for asking the question. A leavers hoody with full names this DC would have to be excluded from. An already vulnerable child erased from the class on this keepsake. Use just first names and they can be added, can but the hoody and be part of the group. Leaving off second names doesn't seem that much of a sacrifice to remain inclusive.

mernie · 01/06/2022 15:57

Do they have to pay for them? It just seems like an unnecessary expense, and a waste, in light of the current financial and climate crisis, when they'll be minimally used.

HoppingPavlova · 01/06/2022 15:58

*Theres no way a child in foster care’s name should be printed, in full, on anything that’s going to identify their school to anyone that a child wearing a hoodie wandering in public is going to see.

it’s a tiny risk, but it’s the exact same reason some kids can never be in photos in the local paper, or have their full name printed in anything school related online.*

but wouldn’t they use a fake last name for the exceptionally small number of kids this would effect?

I used to be involved in kids sport (4-17yo) and if we had foster kids or anyone at risk in this regard, they get registered with the club under their real name but a fake surname (generally Smith/Roberts/Brown/White) is entered into the Association database. Team lists were publicly accessible and lists for game day with your players names and numbers had to be handed over to opposition and ground management at the game. So anything publicly available had the fake surname on for any child in that situation. Would it not be the same with leavers tops?

TeenPlusCat · 01/06/2022 16:00

Hoolahoophop · 01/06/2022 15:55

There a child at my DC primary who was marched out of the hall when parents took photos of their kids after the nativity. Before then photos were strictly banned. Poor little thing looked so sad. I can't believe op I'd being given a hard time for asking the question. A leavers hoody with full names this DC would have to be excluded from. An already vulnerable child erased from the class on this keepsake. Use just first names and they can be added, can but the hoody and be part of the group. Leaving off second names doesn't seem that much of a sacrifice to remain inclusive.

Our DDs couldn't be in nativity photos, but it was better handled than being 'marched out of the hall'.

I do think there should be consent asked for from the parents, at minimum any that have limited consent for other things such as photos or social media.

Namechangehereandnow · 01/06/2022 16:00

You’re massively over reacting!

fwiw, if a child/young person was on the ‘no photos’ list etc (for personal preference or safeguarding), their names were not allowed on the jumpers - I felt that was more conspicuous and unfair than their name being there tbh.

Figgygal · 01/06/2022 16:00

Over thinking much op

To be shocked by the leavers jumpers
FuchsAndMöhr · 01/06/2022 16:03

Most days I read something that makes me
want the world to stop so I can get off.

This is today’s!

JustLyra · 01/06/2022 16:05

HoppingPavlova · 01/06/2022 15:58

*Theres no way a child in foster care’s name should be printed, in full, on anything that’s going to identify their school to anyone that a child wearing a hoodie wandering in public is going to see.

it’s a tiny risk, but it’s the exact same reason some kids can never be in photos in the local paper, or have their full name printed in anything school related online.*

but wouldn’t they use a fake last name for the exceptionally small number of kids this would effect?

I used to be involved in kids sport (4-17yo) and if we had foster kids or anyone at risk in this regard, they get registered with the club under their real name but a fake surname (generally Smith/Roberts/Brown/White) is entered into the Association database. Team lists were publicly accessible and lists for game day with your players names and numbers had to be handed over to opposition and ground management at the game. So anything publicly available had the fake surname on for any child in that situation. Would it not be the same with leavers tops?

In every school I ever worked in they just used first names.

otherwise you have to highlight to the PTA (in this case) that Sarah and Billy have something going on in their lives that’s, to be frank, fuck all to do with the PTA.

far easier to just be sensible and use first names.

Plus that also makes all the kids the same.

GeorgiaGirl52 · 01/06/2022 16:05

Highlyquestionablehoumous · 01/06/2022 15:10

What does it matter if you are now only allowed first names? It's hardly a human rights violation! 😂

Maybe it matters to the three Tylers and the two Jennifers in the class who would like to be more individualized?
Don't be THAT parent.