WTF has happened to ice cream?

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Felt the need so popped in to Waitrose for a little tub.

tubs of low calorie - what’s the point of that in ice cream?
Or rhubarb and pineapple or ginger and galangal.
Or £8 for a jar of artisan gelato shite.
Yogurt! Frozen!
plant based vegan shit.
even the haagen daazy was stupid flavours and didn’t Appeal. So unfair. I just want a tub of proper nice ice cream. Made from sugar and dairy.

ended up with a tub of Yeo valley mint choc chip and it is frankly a disappointment and tastes sandy.

Yes, I think I did. Pina colada is the coconutty one, rather than a margarita. Although I'm intrigued to give Nigella's margarita ice-cream a whirl now.

WowIlikereallyhateyou · Today 08:11

Plus, why all the love for Mackies, bleugh. Sweet, air filled. Moderate.
I disliked Mackies even more after I found out that they also make even worse air filled "ice cream" for Aldi under different branding.

I've stopped buying supermarket ice cream as it's so disappointing. I don't really like Magnums, Cart d'Or or any of those brands.

We buy tubs of gelato from the local Italians and chippies, all of which have an amazing selection. It feels expensive but it lasts, there's loads of good flavours and it tastes so good.

I have made my own 2-ingredient ice cream from whipped double cream and condensed milk. It was amazing and really easy. You can add chocolate chips, caramel, raspberry purée, whatever you like. It's very creamy so depends if you like that.

@mustlovegin Actually vegan ice cream is great

Thanks I'll have a look!

Posh? You wanna be posh?

Just ask for 'Madagascan Vanilla with a Marbling of Raspberry Coulis' instead.
😂

For those wanting to make their own but without the faff/expense/space of an ice cream maker, I recommend this recipe: www.waitrose.com/home/recipes/recipe_directory/p/plum-cinnamon-crumblewithgingericecream.html

I've made it several times and it's bloody lovely, and I've varied it too - I made a peanut butter cup by:

• lining a tupperware tub with clingfilm, pouring in a thin layer of melted chocolate and leaving it to set;
• warming some peanut butter in the microwave to make it more spreadable;
• spreading it over the chocolate and leaving it to cool;
• melting some more chocolate and spreading it over the peanut butter then leaving it too cool again, and
• taking it out of the tub (hence the clingfilm!), chopping it into small bits and stirring it into your ice cream.

this one is mine and I love it...takes up kitchen space and is a considered purchase though www.nisbets.co.uk/buffalo-ice-cream-maker/dm067

Vegan ice cream might be nice and I understand the need for those with dairy allergies, but it isn't healthier. It's even more full of emulsifiers and gums that promote inflammation, including the notorious carageenan.

Jude's vegan vanilla ingredients:
Oat Base (66%) [Water, Oat (7%), Sunflower Oil], Glucose Syrup, Sugar, Coconut Oil, Soluble Corn Fibre, Soya Protein Isolate, Dextrose, Emulsifier: Mono- and Diglycerides of Fatty Acids, Stabilisers: Locust Bean Gum, Guar Gum and Carrageenan, Vanilla Extract, Salt, Natural Flavouring, Spent Vanilla Bean, Natural Colour: Carotenes.

I repeat: haagen Das vanilla ice cream ingredients:
Fresh Cream (39%), Condensed Skimmed Milk, Sugar, Egg Yolk, Vanilla Extract.

It might be more ethical but it's way less natural and more processed.

Dairy is inherently unhealthy so generally better not to consume it, although I agree vegan ice cream is not exactly the healthiest plant based food! @MumofCrohnie Obviously I'm not suggesting it's suitable for someone like your DD with a specific sensitivity.

Why is dairy unhealthy?

I have an intolerance but i understand it’s got pros and cons. I drink almond and it’s low calorie and a good protein and less irritating to me
a lot of dairy products are very high fat and easy to over eat (cheeses, cream)

It’s not. The myth of fat being the devil’s work was debunked some time ago when rickets made a reappearance. We need the calcium it provides.

It’s far harder to overeat something that is high fat than high sugar. Try drinking a pint of cream.

It's not unhealthy because it contains fat 🙄

www.pcrm.org/good-nutrition/nutrition-information/health-concerns-about-dairy

You can easily over eat cheese and I frequently used to! Same for all the Starbucks frapps, giant milkshakes from most fast food places etc - a lot of dairy and sugar easily consumed

This is an interesting and detailed source which discusses other studies too:

www.bmj.com/content/367/bmj.l6204

@HelloMaryJane Lucas is lovely. As is Mackies, their cafe 19.2 in Aberdeen is splendid too with traditional and weird (buttery &jam). Big shout out to Taylors of Biggar, so sad the Townhead cafe has closed :(

There’s no sugar in cheese. I can’t overeat it, it’s too filling.

@Blossomtoes You are a sample of one

Your first link says exactly that 🙄 It’s also clearly funded by the plant food industry.

Frappuccinos and “milkshakes” have tonnes of sugar and reconstituted milk powders full of emulsifiers. The fat content isn’t the problem.

@Blossomtoes The type of fat and the other content of dairy contributes to why it's unhealthy, yes, but it's not a blanket 'fat in the diet is bad'. So please don't try to misrepresent what anyone else is saying, thanks!

And as if the push to promote dairy as healthy for decades hasn't been funded by the dairy industry...! You are ridiculous.

Quite apart from our own health (and vegetarians do live on average seven years longer than omnivores, for vegans it's fifteen years...), there's the question of ethics. Check out this film:

www.dominionmovement.com/watch

(I am not affiliated at all)