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Partner has really upset me - is it him or me being sensitive??

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stressedmum22 · 31/05/2022 08:31

I've NC because there's a lot of personal information in this post.

The gist of the problem is I don't feel my DP is massively supportive with helping to maintain a work family balance and sees me as the default childcare, expecting me to fit in with the demands on his job and never have the status quo upset for him with his job.

We have a 1 year old. We both work. My job is a 9-5 with some flexibility around times worked so long as I work my hours. I work 4 days a week. His job is a nightmare - FT, long shifts, unsociable hours inc evenings and nights and weekends. We have lots of arguments about how his job impacts on me and means I end up with the bulk of the childcare around my own job (we have no family support so I'm very much solo when he's not around to help).

Last night we spoke about this yet again, because he has recently finished a week of night shifts and has to do more night shifts in July. Nights impact particularly on me because DD doesn't sleep well and sleep deprivation causes a significant deterioration in my MH (DP copes a million times better than I do so he tends to most of the night wakings when I'm at work). We spoke about it a while ago and he agreed to speak to work and try and swap these shifts with colleagues who don't have children (there are usually people willing to swap as they get a week off after a week of nights). Last night I asked if he had made progress with trying to swap these shifts. He said not yet but he's asked a few colleagues. I said what's the plan if they all say no - he said I don't know. I said could you speak to your manager to see if there's any flexibility given the situation?

He then snapped at me saying "what would you do if you were a single mum? You'd have to just get on with it". I said yes but I'm not. And there's no need to snap, I'm only asking what the plan is if no one can take your night shifts.

This is part of an ongoing problem where DP hates to "rock the boat" at work - he'd rather let me and the family down than ask for support or flexibility with his manager at work. He puts work and their priorities first, all the time. He often isn't even willing to ask at work what can be done to support his family situation.

I said I don't feel that you are supporting me here; you seem annoyed by me raising this. He said yes, he is annoyed, because he doesn't want to sacrifice his week off after his July night shifts, because it precedes 2 weeks of annual leave and it would mean he got 3 consecutive weeks off. Now he will only get 2 weeks off. I said Ok, but we need to work this out as a family and what we all need, not just what you want (ie 3 weeks off). My MH could decline quite significantly with that week of nights on my own, and I might end up off work sick. But as long as you get your 3 weeks off? Seems a bit selfish.

He then said "don't say I don't support you - I took time off work when you got admitted to hospital". Two weeks after giving birth I got admitted to an MBU in an mental health crisis situation. He referenced the fact he came home from work and asked for a few extra days off on top of his paternity leave, as an example of how he supports me. I was a bit stunned tbh. He thinks this is worthy of special mention? Isn't this just what any loving partner would do? I wouldn't hesitate to ask for time off work if he was admitted to a hospital, especially 2 weeks postnatally. Maybe I'm unreasonable there and should feel grateful, who knows ...

Also, by raising the MBU experience he's rehashed a lot of trauma that I have tried to bury. I drove to work this morning with it all whirling round my mind. He knows mentioning this is triggering for me.

Who is unreasonable? Is this my problem?

I'm willing to accept AIBU if that's the majority opinion. Please, please just find a way to say it as nicely as possible. I'm not in a good place. 🙁

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KettrickenSmiled · 31/05/2022 09:32

It is also not fair that he can’t mention you staying in hospital because it’s ‘triggering’ and it’s quite manipulative of you to keep using your MH as a reason to make him feel guilty.

Oh come off it.

He didn't "mention" her MH - he used her MBU episode as 'proof' that he supports her. THAT was manipulative. Becasue supporting a hospitalised partner is what anyone would have to do - & one would hope WANT to do.

OP isn't using her MH - what a hurtful & ridiculous comment.
That's like telling someone with a broken leg who asks you to pass them their crutches that they are trying to make you feel guilty.

stressedmum22 · 31/05/2022 09:32

@PaddingtonBearStareAgain

I have considered giving it up.

It took almost 2 decades of training and study to a high level and is very specialist. I've given and sacrificed an awful lot for it. But honestly I don't think I can anymore.

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maddening · 31/05/2022 09:32

Him having this option to do a week of nights and then have a week off will probably be really useful as you go forward once you are past the night waking part.

On his week of nights could you ask any of the grandparents to stay over and help a bit perhaps ?

roarfeckingroarr · 31/05/2022 09:33

@stressedmum22 I'm not a doctor, I don't know. However you're expecting everything to revolve around your MH and there comes a point where you have to take responsibility for it rather than expecting your husband to change his shifts, not get the week off, constantly rock the boat at work. It sounds like a really stressful life for him - he's working longer hours, doing most the nights and that's not good enough for you. Maybe he wants to do the nights for once, and get the associated benefit of a week off?

Can you work on your child's sleep at all? So would also say definitely don't have any more children!

KettrickenSmiled · 31/05/2022 09:34

Indoctro · 31/05/2022 09:22

Surely his job is the priority.?

You can't expect his work to be flexible so you don't have to do night waking with your kid

Sorry but I agree with your husband.

How is HIS job a priority, but not OP's?

esoryelneh · 31/05/2022 09:34

XelaM · 31/05/2022 08:40

I'm a single mum, so sorry I think you're being a bit unreasonable expecting him to do all the night wakings. It's unfair. You should be able to do a week of night wakings especially if he then gets a full week off afterwards.

Completely agree.

IsabelHerna · 31/05/2022 09:35

I don't think you're being sensitive, I think he just has a different idea of parenting... you're a team and he doesn't seem to really understand that

Changingtides1234 · 31/05/2022 09:36

It sounds like you’re having a tough time op.

it sounds like he’s feeling pressure at home and at work and his default is to stick his head in the sand a bit.

I think it may be useful for you both to come up with a plan to help babies sleep. This way when his night shifts come up you will feel a little less pressure. Is baby waking often at night? How is baby put back to sleep?

finally - it may be a good idea to write down how your feel and show your husband. When we are experiencing MH issues sometimes the other party can’t understand properly.

sending you a big hug

IRunbecauseILikeCake · 31/05/2022 09:36

He's got three weeks off coming up. One one of those days when you're both off work, this is a golden opportunity to sit down and talk this out.
What would you like him to do? Find actions that can work and discuss them with him. I'm assuming he does the bulk of housework and childcare when he's off.
Is there any more flexibility granted in your role? Ie let's say he works four nights shifts (of course I could be wrong here but just as an example) could you do your work days on the days when he's not at work? Or cut down your hours that week and make them up on his week off to take some of the pressure off?
Or could one of you reduce your hours?

Zippidy123 · 31/05/2022 09:36

YABVU to ask him to change jobs. This is a temporary problem, it might feel like the sleepless nights will last forever but they honestly dont.

Next it'll be fitting around school runs and school holidays. There's always going to be something.

You're a team. You're never going to get a perfect balance but you need to pull together not apart. Accept that this is DHs job, there's nothing he can do to change it and figure it out some other way.

stressedmum22 · 31/05/2022 09:37

@roarfeckingroarr

Stop telling me I need to take responsibility for my mental health: I've done literally nothing but this since baby was born. I went willingly to the MBU - they'd have sectioned me had I refused. But I went willingly, begging for help. I engaged for 13 months with a perinatal therapist. I take medication. I rang my GP asking for help on the day the perinatal discharged me. When I went back to work after mat leave I was very open and honest with my manager about my struggles and gave him the heads up I would need time for MH appointments etc, which he supported. I requested to drop to 4 days a week to support my mental well-being. I call family / friends when I need to talk so it's not all just my partner supporting me.

I have done and continue to do a lot to take responsibility.

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DelphiniumBlue · 31/05/2022 09:38

My DH worked irregular, unpredictable night shifts when our sons were children, and I understand how difficult it is. But you can't expect your DP to ask for a swap every time he is given a night shift, that's unfair on his colleagues and makes it look like he is not pulling his weight or doing. his job.
If you are finding it really difficult to mange alone, the options are to get someone in to help ( requires willing family or money) change your own working hours so you can sleep at a more convenient time, sleep train DD, go to bed earlier so you sleep when she does, or DP finds a different job without night shifts, or speaks to his boss and arranges for no nightshifts for the 6 months/year ( will have an effect on his wages).
I also think it's unfair that you say that him mentioning your MH triggers you. Even if it does, you can't dictate that he never mentions such a major thing in both your lives.

stressedmum22 · 31/05/2022 09:38

Accept that this is DHs job, there's nothing he can do to change it

That's not strictly true.

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stressedmum22 · 31/05/2022 09:39

Changingtides1234 · 31/05/2022 09:36

It sounds like you’re having a tough time op.

it sounds like he’s feeling pressure at home and at work and his default is to stick his head in the sand a bit.

I think it may be useful for you both to come up with a plan to help babies sleep. This way when his night shifts come up you will feel a little less pressure. Is baby waking often at night? How is baby put back to sleep?

finally - it may be a good idea to write down how your feel and show your husband. When we are experiencing MH issues sometimes the other party can’t understand properly.

sending you a big hug

Thank you

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CatLadyDrinksGin · 31/05/2022 09:39

Surely sorting out the sleep issue would resolve most of this if you can cope with the job and kid(s) if you get sleep too. If the youngest is over 1 they don’t need milk in the night. Working nights is very difficult and stressful in it’s own right so cut him some slack.

Saharafordessert · 31/05/2022 09:39

roarfeckingroarr · 31/05/2022 09:33

@stressedmum22 I'm not a doctor, I don't know. However you're expecting everything to revolve around your MH and there comes a point where you have to take responsibility for it rather than expecting your husband to change his shifts, not get the week off, constantly rock the boat at work. It sounds like a really stressful life for him - he's working longer hours, doing most the nights and that's not good enough for you. Maybe he wants to do the nights for once, and get the associated benefit of a week off?

Can you work on your child's sleep at all? So would also say definitely don't have any more children!

This in spades, I totally agree!

jaffacakesareepic · 31/05/2022 09:40

stressedmum22 · 31/05/2022 08:51

I even replied "why? What's in it for them?"

He said "they want the week off afterwards".

It was his own observation that many of his colleagues with children decline to swap as it's not convenient for them, and the ones who tend to go for it are child free.

That's an anecdotal observation of my DP and his work colleagues.

Not sure why people are getting themselves offended by it.

Because people without children are routinely expected to stay late if someone has to, or do the overtime, or be the ones who work christmas day etc etc not in all workplaces but some

Ive certainly work somewhere were it would appear that the people without children are 'happy' to pick up the unsociable hours when really theres just a culture of their time being undervauled and they feel like they have to go along with it.

Ive worked places where if i dont want to do overtime at the weekend Ive been grilled on my plans, because if I dont do it a parent might have to and their time is considered more precious than mine, even though some ofnthe parents specifically wanted to work it for the extra money

I worked the last 6 years somewhere where if I had time off in the school holudays, even if it was for an appointment the rest of the staff would bitch about me to my face because i had no children

So hearing about a couple just causually deciding that the nightshift wont work for them so their childless colleagues can just pick it up is a bit frustrating, especially when you have been in a position to know that in some firms the culture is such that the childless colleagues may feel like they dont have a choice

And its usually always the ones without children not the ones with adult children....

Summerwetordry · 31/05/2022 09:40

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Spinfit · 31/05/2022 09:41

Hi, Is your DP a doctor or a nurse? If so, night shifts are extremely demanding and tbh as bad as being up with a toddler (I speak from experience - my DH and I are both doctors with a 1 year old!). Even if he were to swap the nights, he would still need to do them again at some point (I doubt he'll be able to get off not doing them at all as on calls are part of formal training and need to be done in order to progress unless there is a medical exemption of some kind). The rules around night shifts for doctors changed when I was an F2 (2013) and I'm pretty sure for an on site shift, the maximum number of nights is 4 due to health and safety reasons . Perhaps he could split them with someone? Two nights and then two at a later date. A few of my colleagues who returned from their out of programme time, split shifts just to get back in to things!

stressedmum22 · 31/05/2022 09:41

@DelphiniumBlue

It's specifically the MBU experience that I struggle with memories of, including trauma flashbacks. He knows this. I've been very open in the past with him about this and asked him not to raise that one specific experience. It's not a case of not being able to talk about my mental health in general - it's that one specific horrible experience he is fully aware is a major trigger for me.

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Very helpful, cheers

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stressedmum22 · 31/05/2022 09:42

@Spinfit

No not a doctor. That's closer to my own profession than his.

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Spinfit · 31/05/2022 09:43

Sorry posted before saying, if it gets really bad definitely consider a night nurse or a night nanny to help you (if you have the money - but your sanity is the most important thing always!). I've heard they are very useful. Good luck!

Spohn · 31/05/2022 09:43

It all sounds very tedious. Do you feel cherished, loved and respected by your boyfriend? If not, how long would you accept that?

rainbowstardrops · 31/05/2022 09:43

I think YABU sorry.
I appreciate that your MH isn't great right now and your partner's remarks would have upset me too but that aside, it sounds as if he's doing what he can.
Does your 1 year old wake up a lot during the night, or is it more that your stressful, mentally draining job is keeping you awake at night?
If it's mainly the job then I think it is you that should consider changing jobs, not your partner.
I assume he had this job and the unsociable shift patterns when you met and then had a child together?
I hope you're able to access more MH soon and that you start to feel better.

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