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Partner has really upset me - is it him or me being sensitive??

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stressedmum22 · 31/05/2022 08:31

I've NC because there's a lot of personal information in this post.

The gist of the problem is I don't feel my DP is massively supportive with helping to maintain a work family balance and sees me as the default childcare, expecting me to fit in with the demands on his job and never have the status quo upset for him with his job.

We have a 1 year old. We both work. My job is a 9-5 with some flexibility around times worked so long as I work my hours. I work 4 days a week. His job is a nightmare - FT, long shifts, unsociable hours inc evenings and nights and weekends. We have lots of arguments about how his job impacts on me and means I end up with the bulk of the childcare around my own job (we have no family support so I'm very much solo when he's not around to help).

Last night we spoke about this yet again, because he has recently finished a week of night shifts and has to do more night shifts in July. Nights impact particularly on me because DD doesn't sleep well and sleep deprivation causes a significant deterioration in my MH (DP copes a million times better than I do so he tends to most of the night wakings when I'm at work). We spoke about it a while ago and he agreed to speak to work and try and swap these shifts with colleagues who don't have children (there are usually people willing to swap as they get a week off after a week of nights). Last night I asked if he had made progress with trying to swap these shifts. He said not yet but he's asked a few colleagues. I said what's the plan if they all say no - he said I don't know. I said could you speak to your manager to see if there's any flexibility given the situation?

He then snapped at me saying "what would you do if you were a single mum? You'd have to just get on with it". I said yes but I'm not. And there's no need to snap, I'm only asking what the plan is if no one can take your night shifts.

This is part of an ongoing problem where DP hates to "rock the boat" at work - he'd rather let me and the family down than ask for support or flexibility with his manager at work. He puts work and their priorities first, all the time. He often isn't even willing to ask at work what can be done to support his family situation.

I said I don't feel that you are supporting me here; you seem annoyed by me raising this. He said yes, he is annoyed, because he doesn't want to sacrifice his week off after his July night shifts, because it precedes 2 weeks of annual leave and it would mean he got 3 consecutive weeks off. Now he will only get 2 weeks off. I said Ok, but we need to work this out as a family and what we all need, not just what you want (ie 3 weeks off). My MH could decline quite significantly with that week of nights on my own, and I might end up off work sick. But as long as you get your 3 weeks off? Seems a bit selfish.

He then said "don't say I don't support you - I took time off work when you got admitted to hospital". Two weeks after giving birth I got admitted to an MBU in an mental health crisis situation. He referenced the fact he came home from work and asked for a few extra days off on top of his paternity leave, as an example of how he supports me. I was a bit stunned tbh. He thinks this is worthy of special mention? Isn't this just what any loving partner would do? I wouldn't hesitate to ask for time off work if he was admitted to a hospital, especially 2 weeks postnatally. Maybe I'm unreasonable there and should feel grateful, who knows ...

Also, by raising the MBU experience he's rehashed a lot of trauma that I have tried to bury. I drove to work this morning with it all whirling round my mind. He knows mentioning this is triggering for me.

Who is unreasonable? Is this my problem?

I'm willing to accept AIBU if that's the majority opinion. Please, please just find a way to say it as nicely as possible. I'm not in a good place. 🙁

OP posts:
PaddingtonBearStareAgain · 01/06/2022 07:40

EverydayIsPJday · 01/06/2022 07:11

Think you are just out for a scrap now tbh. You're not even taking on board what people are saying. I guess you got the result you wanted (this time). People are trying to help you figure out what the long term solution is, as I said, you don't have one that is remotely sustainable. This is 'the new norm' having a young family, unless you get something to change. You seem focused on your partner's job as a solution to make things better for YOU. I ask again, what are YOU going to do to get the relationship/family to work. Or is it just a case your partner caves in to you every time until he leaves his job and probably resents you.

Sorry but like others have said you are starting to just sound controlling.

Yep. I agree. No matter what he does it won't be enough.

XelaM · 01/06/2022 07:42

Honestly, if I was the OP's partner I would leave. It sounds like he has the patience of a saint and OP sounds like really hard work. It all looks miserable for the partner. I left my ex-husband because he was making me miserable (he was also permanently depressed despite endless help and support from me) and I was much happier bringing up our child as a single mum. If the partner was on mumsnet, that's the advice I'd give them. Life is too short to put up with all this crap.

gamerchick · 01/06/2022 07:49

XelaM · 01/06/2022 07:42

Honestly, if I was the OP's partner I would leave. It sounds like he has the patience of a saint and OP sounds like really hard work. It all looks miserable for the partner. I left my ex-husband because he was making me miserable (he was also permanently depressed despite endless help and support from me) and I was much happier bringing up our child as a single mum. If the partner was on mumsnet, that's the advice I'd give them. Life is too short to put up with all this crap.

Going on the OPs last post and her expectations of what she wants him to do, it's probably just a matter of time. Wanting your bloke to ask his boss to help out to make sure she gets enough sleep is so overwhelmingly unreasonable I'm wondering if the OP is pulling our leg a bit here.

SchoolThing · 01/06/2022 07:50

XelaM · 01/06/2022 07:42

Honestly, if I was the OP's partner I would leave. It sounds like he has the patience of a saint and OP sounds like really hard work. It all looks miserable for the partner. I left my ex-husband because he was making me miserable (he was also permanently depressed despite endless help and support from me) and I was much happier bringing up our child as a single mum. If the partner was on mumsnet, that's the advice I'd give them. Life is too short to put up with all this crap.

That’s a very cruel post. Why would you write that?

OP has been very clear about her health struggles. A partnership is meant to be for better and for worse, not just when things are hunky dory.

Innocenta · 01/06/2022 07:59

@SchoolThing There are limits to what it's reasonable to expect from your partner. I'm the one in my relationship with major health issues; my partner is my carer (no shame in that), and it can be difficult and many on the thread have pointed out. There still had to be give and take, and the other person's needs can't always come last.

In view of OP's posts, I think highlighting this is perfectly reasonable.

Innocenta · 01/06/2022 08:00

(Sorry about my typos!)

stressedmum22 · 01/06/2022 08:03

It all looks miserable for the partner.

Oh yeah it all looks really grim for him. So grim in fact that he wants us to go on a date night tomorrow and have some time together. So grim that we had a real laugh and some intimacy this morning. Yeah. Grim as fuck. Poor bloke.

🤣

OP posts:
SpeckofDustUponMySoul · 01/06/2022 08:05

The more you post, OP, the more intransigent and self-absorbed you sound. It's al "me, me, me" not "we, we, we". You speak about a partnership, but solely on your terms.
I had severe PND with my twins and went through a really traumatic experience to add to already unresolved trauma. I didn't realise at the time just how difficult it was for my ExH, working absolutely ridiculous hours, looking after the twins as much as possible, and contending with/supporting a mentally unwell wife.
I wish I had been kinder towards him at the time and seen just how hard he was trying, instead of only seeing things from my own self-absorbed perspective.
Your partner sounds as though he is doing everything he can. He snapped and later apologised. I think your sleep deprivation and MH issues are warping your perspective.

stressedmum22 · 01/06/2022 08:06

you can't unilaterally decide he isn't allowed to speak about your MH in general,

I haven't. I've been speaking about it voluntarily for a entire year to both him and professionals. I am asking him not to raise something that he knows is deeply traumatic for me, particularly in the context of an argument. He has accepted that and apologised. We've moved on. All good.

OP posts:
Dinotour · 01/06/2022 08:09

XelaM · 01/06/2022 07:42

Honestly, if I was the OP's partner I would leave. It sounds like he has the patience of a saint and OP sounds like really hard work. It all looks miserable for the partner. I left my ex-husband because he was making me miserable (he was also permanently depressed despite endless help and support from me) and I was much happier bringing up our child as a single mum. If the partner was on mumsnet, that's the advice I'd give them. Life is too short to put up with all this crap.

But having a child is a huge change for both parents, perhaps his jobbefore having a family is no longer compatible with family life. Women make changes all of the time because they have to as the man doesn't want anything to change. Not saying he should in this case, but carrying on as is and thinking taking a few days off when your partner is in hospital is some heroic feat worthy of praise, or highlighting how someone struggling with their mental health would have to make do if they were alone doesn't sound that supportive.

I agree it's give and take and it shouldn't be that he bends and breaks to accommodate OP, but the reality if one partner is struggling and there's a child in the mix why shouldn't there be discussions? How often when someone is struggling do people say reach out, talk to your partner about how you feel?

stressedmum22 · 01/06/2022 08:13

IWentAwayIStayedAway · 01/06/2022 07:21

can you take a week unpaid leave when he is doing nights and decamp to your family. then make up hours when he is off for 3 weeks?

Yeah. Funnily enough my partner suggested a weeks unpaid leave.. it's quite a loss though for us financially and not a long term option.

OP posts:
EverydayIsPJday · 01/06/2022 08:14

So what IS the problem OP??? He wants a date night, he's still romantically into you blah blah blah. You've been throwing your toys out of the pram, getting what you want then telling us actually how lovely things are. WTAF.

Poor bloke indeed. You really think this is sustainable? You don't think he will wake up one day and question why you are just making demands and he's playing the fiddle to your tune? I honestly think you are over exaggerating the vast majority of what's on here or you are quite naive.

Innocenta · 01/06/2022 08:14

You seem to have no empathy for his side of this tbh. And as I said, in my marriage I'm the one with higher needs.

stressedmum22 · 01/06/2022 08:16

The more you post, OP, the more intransigent and self-absorbed you sound. It's al "me, me, me" not "we, we, we". You speak about a partnership, but solely on your terms.

Have you considered that this may be perhaps a response to being at the end of my tether with my partner's approach to work being exactly this for quite a while now? Just doing his own thing - agreeing to overtime and shift extensions with no discussion etc - assuming I'll just pick up at home? Seeing me as the default person to manage home life? Feeling on my own so much of the time with so much of the load?

I'm done with it. Maybe my response is now to overcompensate. Who knows. I'd have asked my (amazing) therapist but she ditched me 🤣 (lighthearted).

OP posts:
Karwomannghia · 01/06/2022 08:18

He shouldn’t have dealt such a low blow purely because he was ready to go to work and probably tired and felt burdened already. Sometimes they go straight to the jugular because it’s there. Those things are so easy to throw out but can be so hurtful for the recipient.
Glad it’s sorted now.
Also, having read through your responses on this thread you’ve held your own very well despite having lots of criticism. You’re coming across as resilient which is great.

stressedmum22 · 01/06/2022 08:19

@EverydayIsPJday

Now? There is no problem. Yesterday the problem was as described in my OP. A part of that is now resolved from a practical perspective, and the other comment has been apologised for.

It's an argument. You have them; and you resolve them and move on.

Of course we are still romantically into each other, whatever made you think not?

You do realise it's not just a case of amazing relationship versus shit relationship, right? There are shades of grey. Some days we have bumps in the road and disagreements and other days things roll smoothly. Life, right?

OP posts:
Innocenta · 01/06/2022 08:21

Your therapist didn't 'ditch' you; your eligibility for the service ended. I think you should urgently prioritise private talk therapy. It would be incredibly helpful for you to have a safe, structured space to process these emotions without the variability of response you get on MN. I'd cut any other elective expenses in favour of therapy if I were you.

Innocenta · 01/06/2022 08:22

But it's very telling that you feel there is no problem because you got your own way and you got an apology.

stressedmum22 · 01/06/2022 08:23

Poor bloke indeed. You really think this is sustainable? You don't think he will wake up one day and question why you are just making demands and he's playing the fiddle to your tune? I honestly think you are over exaggerating the vast majority of what's on here or you are quite naive.

🤣**
Do I think our almost 10 year relationship is sustainable? Yes, I do. Because here we are almost 10 years and a baby later, having struggled and disagreements and resolving them with discussion and intimacy and moving on.

Making demands and playing fiddle? I'm not even gracing that with a reply. You know nothing about me or my relationship except a snapshot of one issue on one day that I've posted anonymously online.

You can think what you like. It means precisely nothing to me. So you crack on.

OP posts:
EverydayIsPJday · 01/06/2022 08:24

Lol you're telling me what 'life is like' 🤣 I have two kids and another on the way. I know what it's like and we manage it just fine thank you. YOU came on here whining about your partner and now you've won and argument, you think that's it....you have no plan....you change something going forward or you will be back here again in a few weeks when he does something else you don't like.

Meh..you aren't listening. Goodluck to your partner I say.

stressedmum22 · 01/06/2022 08:24

Your therapist didn't 'ditch' you; your eligibility for the service ended.

Yes. I know. Hence me following that up with "lighthearted" and a laughing emoji.

OP posts:
Innocenta · 01/06/2022 08:25

stressedmum22 · 01/06/2022 08:24

Your therapist didn't 'ditch' you; your eligibility for the service ended.

Yes. I know. Hence me following that up with "lighthearted" and a laughing emoji.

The 'casual' language a person uses is often still very telling.

stressedmum22 · 01/06/2022 08:25

Innocenta · 01/06/2022 08:21

Your therapist didn't 'ditch' you; your eligibility for the service ended. I think you should urgently prioritise private talk therapy. It would be incredibly helpful for you to have a safe, structured space to process these emotions without the variability of response you get on MN. I'd cut any other elective expenses in favour of therapy if I were you.

I've said previously that I've asked to be referred elsewhere. Im waiting on the outcome of that before I seek private therapy. But I wouldn't rule it out

OP posts:
Buttercupsx · 01/06/2022 08:27

@stressedmum22 Any thoughts about my previous post

Innocenta · 01/06/2022 08:27

NHS therapy will almost always be a limited number of sessions, vs private where you can build a trusting relationship with the therapist for much longer. That's why I suggested the latter. Up to you, of course, but private therapy truly is amazing. Best of luck with whichever you do x

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