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to bring dog in supermarket

324 replies

Name2change · 28/05/2022 00:18

I have name changed as I know that most people will be inclined to think that this is ridiculous proposition as its societally unacceptable. I know the cognizant is not to bring them in because they could get out and get into things and cause damage or irritate people with allergens or for hygiene reasons etc etc but surely this applies to dogs who are on leads and being held and not ones in enclosed baby-looking prams that cant get out or get close enough to people to irritate them. I honestly don't see the issue with well behaved dogs who cant bother anyone especially when no one will even know they are there. I saw someone in the supermarket who'd done this a while ago, they bothered no one and ever since I've been thinking that this is something id like to do as I have a hidden disability that is made just that bit more comfortable with my dog just being there but I haven't done it as I'm too ashamed and would be anxious the whole time about being found out! I dont want any "YABU for getting her a pram", its a separate issue, she requires one and I'm not getting into a debate about it. AIBU to go for it or should I leave it well alone and forget about it?

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Eeksteek · 28/05/2022 12:16

So, no. Don’t take your dog. An occasional few hours alone should be ok for a dog, even if you have to work up to it. No dog should be routinely left alone for long periods. They’re packs animals and require company most of the time.

Lockheart · 28/05/2022 12:17

hangrylady · 28/05/2022 11:24

To be fair we don't usually shit on the floor and run off with some sausages.

Not typically (although my godson would certainly have given you pause for thought when he was younger!), but we all shed hair and skin, a shocking number of us don't wash our hands after using the toilet according to various surveys / studies, it's not rare to see people coughing / sneezing without covering their mouth, wiping their nose on their hand, or sneezing into their hand and then not washing it, chewing their nails, spitting in the street, urinating in public places (usually children and men). And to top it off our mouths contain more bacteria than most other animals. Remember, humans are the ones picking up and touching all the produce in shops, dogs would (by and large), stay on the floor away from it all.

And the thing is, the vast, vast majority of "dirt" isn't actually going to harm you. People are horrified at the thought that dogs are dirty and somehow their mere presence in a shop is going to instantly cause toxic filth to settle on every surface, but humans aren't hygienic either. We just operate under the illusion that our muck is somehow better or doesn't count, which I find strange.

KarmaStar · 28/05/2022 12:19

The dog haters out in force again...but will vehemently deny being one....🙄😀
Crack on take your dog in.

toastedbagiel · 28/05/2022 12:19

KarmaStar · 28/05/2022 12:19

The dog haters out in force again...but will vehemently deny being one....🙄😀
Crack on take your dog in.

As opposed to what? The people hater?

knickersniff · 28/05/2022 12:20

Super market managers will not be able to help you . They are very small fish in a very huge ocean .

Crankley · 28/05/2022 12:33

I'm pro dogs but don't believe they belong in prams or supermarkets, so YABU.

pigsDOfly · 28/05/2022 12:34

LuckySantangelo35 · 28/05/2022 11:21

I guess one thing I don’t get is…why can’t you just leave your dogs at home whilst you go to supermarket? Or if you’re wanting to do a bit of shopping on the way home from a walk with them then leave them in the car with window down or if no car tie them up outside and just do quick shop. Or if you’re not happy leaving them outside, well tough shit, you will just have to do without those items then

what I’m saying is there’s ways round it. The best thing being to leave your dog at home when you do your food shop.

The dog doesn’t have to come home absolutely everywhere with you!! I don’t get it!

can any diehard dog lovers explain to me??

I've asked this question several times on different threads about taking dogs in shops and the only sort of answer I've every received is 'because I want to'.

I have a dog, apart from taking her to the pet shop, she doesn't go shopping with me because she's a dog, it's not necessary, nor desirable for her to be in food or clothe shops.

When she's out with me it's because we're going for somewhere for her benefit. I do my shopping when I'm not walking my dog.

I was in my local Waitrose some time ago when a man came in with a small terrier type dog that he put on the trolley seat and pushed around while he did his shopping.

The dog, as far as I could see, wasn't wearing an 'assistance dog' type vest or lead but as no one queried it, I assumed he was known to the staff.

I think I would have found it more acceptable if the dog had been walking and hadn't been sitting on the trolley seat.

bbgx · 28/05/2022 12:50

@Blarting
Very few people smell worse than a dog, that's the point. And how is that an odd thing to ask? The whole site is made up of anecdotes.

You can't even think of anyone hence why you made the sarcastic James remark.

BertieQueen · 28/05/2022 13:14

pigsDOfly · 28/05/2022 12:34

I've asked this question several times on different threads about taking dogs in shops and the only sort of answer I've every received is 'because I want to'.

I have a dog, apart from taking her to the pet shop, she doesn't go shopping with me because she's a dog, it's not necessary, nor desirable for her to be in food or clothe shops.

When she's out with me it's because we're going for somewhere for her benefit. I do my shopping when I'm not walking my dog.

I was in my local Waitrose some time ago when a man came in with a small terrier type dog that he put on the trolley seat and pushed around while he did his shopping.

The dog, as far as I could see, wasn't wearing an 'assistance dog' type vest or lead but as no one queried it, I assumed he was known to the staff.

I think I would have found it more acceptable if the dog had been walking and hadn't been sitting on the trolley seat.

I have said on threads before about dogs and further up this thread. My dog requires 24/7 care. She can not be left alone for even 5 minutes. It’s not a case of I am bringing my dog because I’m a diehard dog lover and can’t be separated from my pooch. For me to go out without her it’s takes a lot of planning.

As I have already said further up thread it’s great places are becoming more dog friendly for us , but I do also agree I wouldn’t take her to a supermarket with so many food products down low it’s just not hygienic to have my dog sniffing them as she walks pass. Shops/pubs etc yes but not a supermarket.

Blarting · 28/05/2022 13:14

bbgx · 28/05/2022 12:50

@Blarting
Very few people smell worse than a dog, that's the point. And how is that an odd thing to ask? The whole site is made up of anecdotes.

You can't even think of anyone hence why you made the sarcastic James remark.

Don't be so ridiculous, you do realise that homeless people often frequent supermarkets and use the wax facilities? Or do you live in that idealistic world that everyone washes and sanitises every 10 mins?

LuckySantangelo35 · 28/05/2022 13:15

KarmaStar · 28/05/2022 12:19

The dog haters out in force again...but will vehemently deny being one....🙄😀
Crack on take your dog in.

@KarmaStar

im a dog lover doesn’t mean I endorse them being allowed absolutely everywhere in places that lots of other people myself included wouldn’t like them to be

LuckySantangelo35 · 28/05/2022 13:17

BertieQueen · 28/05/2022 13:14

I have said on threads before about dogs and further up this thread. My dog requires 24/7 care. She can not be left alone for even 5 minutes. It’s not a case of I am bringing my dog because I’m a diehard dog lover and can’t be separated from my pooch. For me to go out without her it’s takes a lot of planning.

As I have already said further up thread it’s great places are becoming more dog friendly for us , but I do also agree I wouldn’t take her to a supermarket with so many food products down low it’s just not hygienic to have my dog sniffing them as she walks pass. Shops/pubs etc yes but not a supermarket.

@BertieQueen

why does your dog require 24/7 care??

BertieQueen · 28/05/2022 13:18

LuckySantangelo35 · 28/05/2022 13:17

@BertieQueen

why does your dog require 24/7 care??

All health related sadly.

Flaxmeadow · 28/05/2022 13:34

YABVU
Maybe you might be able to control your dog but many others do not.
Dog attacks hospitalise on avergae 25 people a day in the UK, most of them children. That is people admitted onto a hospital ward, not including A&E

Many people, understanbly, are afraid of dogs. Many are allergic to them.
Official guide dogs for the disbabled are acceptable, because genuine assistance dogs are not that high in numbers and not much of a risk to others. But we now have a situation, as in the USA, where any dog owner claims a dog is with them for support. This is often a scam.

Then there is the hygiene issue. Dogs are extremely unhygienic. They will lick their own backsides, they will eat faeces and vomit if allowed to. They carry many parasites and diseases that can be passed onto humans, including worms.

So no, unless they are a genuine guide dog, please keep them out of public spaces were there is food

emuloc · 28/05/2022 13:42

The last place I wish to see dogs, is in the supermarket, unless of course they are assistance dogs.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 28/05/2022 13:47

I honestly don't see the issue with well behaved dogs who cant bother anyone especially when no one will even know they are there

IME the "issue" is that so many insist theirs is well behaved - they're hardly going to say otherwise when they want something - right up to the point when it isn't, and then you get "Something must have stressed him, "Ooooo she's never done that before" and all the rest

If there's a guaranteed way to tell one from the other I've never found it, which is presumably why so many places stick with service animals only (which really are trained to the nth degree)

Lockheart · 28/05/2022 13:48

Dog attacks hospitalise on avergae 25 people a day in the UK, most of them children. That is people admitted onto a hospital ward, not including A&E

Any source for this steaming pile of shite? Because recent data only indicates an average of 4 children seen (not admitted) a day: www.google.com/amp/s/www.nationalworld.com/news/uk/dog-bite-hospitalisations-how-serious-bite-injuries-increased-england-hospitals-2021-2022-3703475%3famp

CounsellorTroi · 28/05/2022 13:51

Then there is the hygiene issue. Dogs are extremely unhygienic. They will lick their own backsides, they will eat faeces and vomit if allowed to. They carry many parasites and diseases that can be passed onto humans, including worms.

Not if they are properly and regularly wormed.

HikingforScenery · 28/05/2022 13:51

LuckySantangelo35 · 28/05/2022 12:14

@HikingforScenery

whats so funny?

What you think when dogs yap at each other because I think the same. In more ‘polite’ words but I think the same!

newnamethanks · 28/05/2022 13:55

Dogs pee when they feel the need. You may consider your dog well trained. So do I with my dog. But other people's dogs may not be. I don't want dogs peeing on my dinner, thanks, so they can remain outside food shops.

Flaxmeadow · 28/05/2022 14:03

CounsellorTroi · 28/05/2022 13:51

Then there is the hygiene issue. Dogs are extremely unhygienic. They will lick their own backsides, they will eat faeces and vomit if allowed to. They carry many parasites and diseases that can be passed onto humans, including worms.

Not if they are properly and regularly wormed.

And you can guarantee that? That every dog out there is properly wormed? Or that every dog has not just spent the morning licking its own arse before the dog owner takes it sniffing around down a food aisle at lunchtime?

Dogs repeatedly get worms, look at how big the pet industry is in the treatment of parasites and fleas and the formula has to be changed because the treatments over time stop working . It isn't a case of whether or not a dog has worms, it's how many it has.

yellowsuninthesky · 28/05/2022 14:08

Marblessolveeverything · 28/05/2022 00:25

Well that's great another place my child can't go due to severe allergies. Strange how dogs come before childrens lives .. leave the dog outside!

I totally agree.

Not read the full thread but Sainsburys is being sued because it refused to allow someone to take their "assistance cat" in with them. I sincerely hope that it reaches court and a precedent is set that only recognised guide (and at a push, hearing, I say at a push because they are nowhere near as well trained as guide dogs) will be allowed in to supermarkets/similar venues.

Reasonable adjustments need to be made for disabilities, but the reasonable adjustment is providing free delivery for online shopping.

Flaxmeadow · 28/05/2022 14:10

Lockheart · 28/05/2022 13:48

Dog attacks hospitalise on avergae 25 people a day in the UK, most of them children. That is people admitted onto a hospital ward, not including A&E

Any source for this steaming pile of shite? Because recent data only indicates an average of 4 children seen (not admitted) a day: www.google.com/amp/s/www.nationalworld.com/news/uk/dog-bite-hospitalisations-how-serious-bite-injuries-increased-england-hospitals-2021-2022-3703475%3famp

Interesting choice of words 'steaming pile of shite'. Are you a dog owner?
Even if it was 4 day, which it isn't its much higher, do you think 4 is an acceptable number?

The Times , May 2022
Animal welfare experts have warned about an epidemic of dog attacks after the number of people requiring hospital attention for dog bites more than doubled in 15 years. NHS data shows that more than 10,000 people a year need hospital treatment after an attack, a rate of 15 cases for every 100,000 of the population

yellowsuninthesky · 28/05/2022 14:11

I honestly don't see the issue with well behaved dogs who cant bother anyone especially when no one will even know they are there

Because they can be left outside/at home/in the car (when it's not hot). Or you can order your supermarket shopping online.

lljkk · 28/05/2022 14:12

Most dogs are house trained so don't just pee indoors.

This thread is reminding me of story someone told about a customer who crapped herself in the bank. Her clothes did not contain the mess. People can produce unhelpful bodily effluent in wrong places, too.