to bring dog in supermarket

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I have name changed as I know that most people will be inclined to think that this is ridiculous proposition as its societally unacceptable. I know the cognizant is not to bring them in because they could get out and get into things and cause damage or irritate people with allergens or for hygiene reasons etc etc but surely this applies to dogs who are on leads and being held and not ones in enclosed baby-looking prams that cant get out or get close enough to people to irritate them. I honestly don't see the issue with well behaved dogs who cant bother anyone especially when no one will even know they are there. I saw someone in the supermarket who'd done this a while ago, they bothered no one and ever since I've been thinking that this is something id like to do as I have a hidden disability that is made just that bit more comfortable with my dog just being there but I haven't done it as I'm too ashamed and would be anxious the whole time about being found out! I dont want any "YABU for getting her a pram", its a separate issue, she requires one and I'm not getting into a debate about it. AIBU to go for it or should I leave it well alone and forget about it?

No dogs should not be allowed in supermarkets. The odd well-trained guide dog, of course. They gave tons of training and numbers are very low - I've literally never seen a guide dog in a supermarket.

If it were free rein there would be all sorts with their untrained and badly controlled dogs in there. It's bad enough when you go for a walk and people don't control their dogs. I don't want to be dealing with that when trying to do a food shop.

I love dogs, have four and they are all treated as family members but no, I don't want any dog other than a guide dog in supermarkets or any other kind of shop except a pet supplies store where it's expected. And please, don't buy a 'support animal' harness online and expect to be allowed bring your pet everywhere. If we start allowing people carry/push pets in food shops it will be restaurants next.

What about assistance dogs? Who are allowed in supermarkets. Is your child not allergic to these? Not goading, genuinely interested in how you deal with this situation.

Definitely showing off.
Poor Python.

I wish I could take my well mannered clean female dog into supermarkets, it would save a lot of time.
UK isn't like USA where basically any dog can be called a ''Service dog''.

Mine is well socialised, quiet and well behaved.
BUT there are plenty of dogs who aren't, and what was disappointing, I was in a small independent non~ food shop once, and a dog had crapped on the floor, and the owner left the sh*t there. {I only saw the mess, not the lazy owner}

Because some people who will claim their dog is 'well behaved' will do so when fifi is taking a shit on the floor, barking and trying to attack other dogs in the store. My dog gets attacked enough by idiot owners who say 'hes okay' when its clearly fucking not, or dont pick up their dog shit. I dont need to to be stepping in shit or slipping on puddles on piss in the supermarket. Its too hard to police

…I know you said don’t ask about the pram… but what’s with the pram?

So in summary is your question 'why can't I take my dog into the supermarket'?

Apologies for the question but it's late and I'm struggling to concentrate

My answer to that question would be that dogs lick their bums and then sniff or lick stuff, and I wouldn't want a Tesco wholemeal loaf for example that had dog sniff germs on it.

So yes...minimal grubby dogs in the supermarket please.

I may have completely missed the point though.
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Don't be ridiculous! A dog in a pram is not going to put anyone's life at risk! For Dog allergies to be severe, you'd need to get very close to them.

Leave it at home or get your products home delivered.

Totally agree. It's a food shop. I don't want dogs round food thank you. Not every dog is as well trained as the owners think they are.

Don't be ridiculous. Dogs don't pee in shops.. I've never witnessed that and the OP is talking about carrying hers in an enjoyed dog carrier bag. Calm the hell down.

my cat is well behaved in tesco express (in her backpack)

Actual humans have been banned from my local Asda for ‘haphazard use of the toilet’ so I very much doubt the OP would get permission to bring her untrained dog in from the manager of this store, pram or no pram.

Reasonable adjustment for disability = access for specially trained assistance dogs from recognised training programmes.

And the Sueing Sainsburys guy hasn’t got a cat in hell’s chance of winning his case.

I agree with a previous poster, I love dogs but really don't want them in the supermarket.

I fully agree. Either you NEED the dog, and it therefore is a support dog, or you don't. I would hate to have dogs in the supermarket. Since my (then) 6 month old was attacked by one when sitting in his pram, I've been incredibly wary of them and it's impossible to keep away from dogs out and about l. I do NOT want to have to deal with dogs in my local supermarket too! Obviously an exception should be made for guide dogs/ support dogs where there is a need, but they are trained for that role.

Unlike the dog hating Mumsnet community I see no harm in you bringing your dog to the supermarket. It’s hardly going to bother anyone enclosed in a pram is it? Go for it OP, if it makes you feel better.

Yes, I agree that the special training of dogs is the difference. This system of training has served our communities well for generations, engendering trust and goodwill.

I would support the setting up of a similar scheme for people with ASD and anxiety, as long as the training is properly regulated, the dogs are safe, and the owners are supported. This would probably require fundraising however, or fee payments for the compulsory training and certification; although it would not be as resource-heavy (and breed specific) as (e.g.) the Guide-dogs For The Blind charity.

Yabu. Dogs shouldnt be in supermarkets unless their assistant dogs.

No, don't just "get it one of those harnesses" (off eBay). Sick of unregistered pets getting access to places because their owner says it's an emotional support dog. All pets give us emotional support, because they're great, they improve our mood and we love them. It doesn't mean they should get the same access as a registered assistance or guide dog.

In this situation OP I would maybe get your shopping delivered instead.

Where does it say the dog is untrained?

Honestly so sick of the phrase ‘emotional support animal’ being used by people who just want to take their pets wherever they fancy.

The vast majority are not service dogs. They are simply a pet that people are attached to. My son has autisim. Our Cocker is amazing with him. Can sense a meltdown and goes and lays on him and calms him down. She does provide him with emotional support. But she isn’t a service dog, because she is trained to be one. And I know loads of people (I am in combed in a spaniel rescue) who rehire spaniels as they have bought them to be emotional support animals for children but don’t train them (either themselves or professionally) and don’t have the time so they just have a bonkers spaniel that’s bored out of its head causing more stress.

I would take both my dogs everywhere with me, I love being with them. However, not everyone likes dogs. Shit pet owners are responsible for a lot of people being afraid of dogs.

Actual service dogs, that have some sort of ID should be the only ones allowed in places like supermarkets imo. There’s a huge difference between service dog and a pet you just like to be around.

It would mean I sneezed and wheezed my way around the shop, unless I happened to have taken an antihistamine that day for other reasons. Not life threatening no, but unpleasant for me. And yes, just having a dog near me is enough to cause me problems - I’ve moved carriage on trains before now and lost my booked seat, as that was less bad than sneezing continuously and wheezing for the whole journey.

Absolutely agree and tbh I was very worried about that cat. It was not keen being in the lead and it’s stomach was really distended. It was either pregnant or has some sort of growth.

Though the fact a disability discrimination solicitor is helping him and the fact that they claim he has been in ‘many sainsburys stores’ with the cat, makes me think it’s a bit of a set up to try and test the law to see if they can force places to allow them to let people take their pets wherever they want. As long as they have a completely unofficial bought off Amazon ‘support animal’ harness.

God no.

The trouble is, most owners think their dog is well trained but they're really not.

I work in a Supermarket where staff multitask doing all roles - e.g. stacking, tills, refunds, customer orders, stock check and cleaning as needed and the idea of cleaning up dog piss, shit and hairs on top of everything we already do would make me quit. It's disgusting enough cleaning up after humans!