to bring dog in supermarket

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I have name changed as I know that most people will be inclined to think that this is ridiculous proposition as its societally unacceptable. I know the cognizant is not to bring them in because they could get out and get into things and cause damage or irritate people with allergens or for hygiene reasons etc etc but surely this applies to dogs who are on leads and being held and not ones in enclosed baby-looking prams that cant get out or get close enough to people to irritate them. I honestly don't see the issue with well behaved dogs who cant bother anyone especially when no one will even know they are there. I saw someone in the supermarket who'd done this a while ago, they bothered no one and ever since I've been thinking that this is something id like to do as I have a hidden disability that is made just that bit more comfortable with my dog just being there but I haven't done it as I'm too ashamed and would be anxious the whole time about being found out! I dont want any "YABU for getting her a pram", its a separate issue, she requires one and I'm not getting into a debate about it. AIBU to go for it or should I leave it well alone and forget about it?

I personally am not bothered about dogs in supermarket am more bothered about human beings with poor hygiene standards TBH !

Whats great about it? Sounds rubbish to me. Unhygienic and I hate it when you have a pub with dogs in and they start yapping at each other. I just think fuck off. Pubs and restaurants and supermarkets etc are places for people, not dogs.

It's great going for a long walk with my dog in the woods or on the beach and then finishing it off with lunch, brunch etc. or better still an early dinner and a glass of wine.

I think some people are much more unhygienic than dogs.

You of course can avoid dog friendly places in you wish, but you don't get to say that for some people they're not great!

YABU, I'm afraid. If your dog isn't a trained support dog then there are places s/he will not be welcome.

Especially the ones that use those salad bar things !

Exactly this

Regarding humans vs dogs and hygiene-

In Waitrose there were two “ Not under control “ kids ( over 10 by the looks)running riot who then began taking tubs of ice cream out if the freezer and licking them.
The mother was just ignoring them.
I did mention the licked Ice cream to staff, but they took one look at the kids and didn’t really look as if they wanted to get involved in asking them not to lick the ice cream tubs.

It really was gross.

I know what you mean. People are gross too.

The other day I saw a bloke do a proper wet sneeze into his hands, then blows his nose with skanky tissue then pick up a food item with the same hand the snotty tissue was in, he had a good look at it and then put it back for some other poor bastard to put in their trolley. Vom 🤢

People are bad enough we don’t need dogs to add to the minging-ness

That’s shocking!

I guess one thing I don’t get is…why can’t you just leave your dogs at home whilst you go to supermarket? Or if you’re wanting to do a bit of shopping on the way home from a walk with them then leave them in the car with window down or if no car tie them up outside and just do quick shop. Or if you’re not happy leaving them outside, well tough shit, you will just have to do without those items then

what I’m saying is there’s ways round it. The best thing being to leave your dog at home when you do your food shop.

The dog doesn’t have to come home absolutely everywhere with you!! I don’t get it!

can any diehard dog lovers explain to me??

To be fair we don't usually shit on the floor and run off with some sausages.

If he does, it will absolutely open the floodgates for everyone to buy an “ Assistance animal, do not distract “ harness or whatever.
America has instances of
“Service dogs” who are put into electric shock / prong collar duos.

No genuine Service dog would need such severe methods of “ Restraint .

I think it's the whole shift in the last 20 years or so from seeing a dog/cat/rabbit as a pet to "one of the family". Because people now think of their dog/cat as "one of the family", just the same as granny or a child, then of course they want to take the dog anywhere the rest of the family are going. Sunday lunch at the pub? Well we wouldn't leave granny at home in the kitchen, so why would we leave Rover? He's just as much part of our family as Granny!

And I see the doggy people have now moved on from whatabouting guide dogs to whatabouting children. Yes some children are manky and badly behaved and that is the fault of the parents. However, you cannot put a lead around a child's neck and leave it attached to the railings, or locked up in a cage at home. Which you can with an animal.

Some children being badly behaved in shops is no justification for an animal free for all.

Well, from memory, just in my local Asda, on the low shelves a few inches off the floor: bread rolls, bread, wraps, salads, Dove Farm gluten free flour, children's sweets, tinned goods and ... cleaning products.

or if no car tie them up outside and just do quick shop.

Too many dog thefts round here for people to want to do that. Best leave them at home or order online.

I agree that there is too much whataboutery on this thread @Stroopwaffels.

I think some people are much more unhygienic than dogs.

Like who?

Unless your dog is a highly-trained assistance dog, keep it out of shops. Some people are so selfish. I don't want to have to navigate everyone who chooses to bring their pet out for the day whilst trying to shop. Where does it stop if they let your dog in? People are going to start copying you if it's deemed ok. It'll be an absolute disaster and a health hazard.

I see this in France all the time, and no one bats an eye. As long as they are not where food is packaged or prepared I personally dont have a problem but voted YABU because it will cause you a world of problems over here, and if you already get anxious I think it will make things worse.

James, he's really unhygienic, never washes his hands when he uses the toilet, uses the back of his hand to wipe his nose. Disgusting!

Do you know James? How does it help you asking who is more unhygienic?

Very odd question.

PS - I work in mental health and am not a fan of emotional assistance animals either although I love animal assisted therapy.

I'd be surprised if the supermarket allow it, unless you have a harness that says assistance dog.
The majority of supermarkets say no dogs unless they are assistance dogs. It is pretty disgusting and unhygienic. What about people or children who are scared of dogs?

I couldn't figure out why I was having an allergic reaction in the supermarket a few weeks ago and then realised that the idiot behind me in the long queue had a dog in a pram. I ended up leaving DH with the shopping and having to go outside. This is despite taking strong antihistamines twice a day everyday to control my allergies. Some dogs are worse than others and I have trouble with fur and dander. I have reacted to people sitting next to me on the bus or beside me in the queue before (although that is sometimes their perfume).
As for guide dogs, I usually just get out of the road, change train carriage, get off wait for the next bus. Decide to go to the next cafe or finish up quickly. Their need is greater than mine. But I hardly ever come across one despite living in a large city.

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I was in an upmarket town this week and happened to go into White Stuff. There were two women shopping with two small fluffy dogs which were wandering around going under the rails of long skirts and trousers. I was really surprised the dogs were allowed to just wander round, the assistants didn't seem bothered. If I'm buying new clothes I wouldn't want dog hairs on them, it just seemed a bit gross but I'm not a dog lover.

Guide dogs (and hearing dogs and dogs for the disabled) are VERY highly trained and tested to a rigorous standard of behaviour in all sorts of settings. So they rarely cause problems (except for phobias and allergies, which is unfortunate, but an example of two valid needs competing).

The same cannot be said of all dogs, and it isn’t all down to owners. Many dogs fail assistance dog training. My previous dogs would have been fine in the supermarket and I took them everywhere I could. People mostly didn’t notice. My current dogs would not, and I don’t take them anywhere, because they are loud and exuberant and while I know they are lovely, other people do not, and they deserve to have their space respected. Aldi, most people places are pretty frustrating or stressful for dogs.

Unless you cannot shop without your dog, and it has been trained to these standards, you shouldn’t be competing with other people’s needs. The assistance dog standard should not be diluted by dogs which are less well trained.

I’m completely in favour of well behaved dogs being allowed in non-essential places. There’s room for dog friendly and no-dog cafes, but probably not supermarkets. There will always be places pets can’t go, and they should be able to stay home for a few hours.

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