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Why the fuck is Boris Johnson still Prime Minister?

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noblegiraffe · 26/05/2022 17:18

Fucksake. I mean seeing minister after minister wheeled out to defend the indefensible in the media rounds. Do they have no shame? Prattling on about how it was an 'essential part of leadership' to be a Toastmaster to an illegal piss-up. No, leadership was the Queen sat alone at a funeral, like so many of her subjects had to do. Not carrying on with your unprofessional boozy work culture and then have your team crow about how they 'got away with it' when they successfully didn't vomit in front of the cameras there for another press conference telling everyone how important it was to stick to the rules.

Johnson knew it wasn't right to have birthday parties when he personally wrote to a kid saying they were right to not have theirs, but then thought it was just fine to have one of his own and then announce that all rules had been followed to Parliament? (The police disagree, as does anyone who was forced to cancel their own celebrations).

Telling people that it was his duty to have a party for leaving colleagues while at the same time people couldn't be with dying family?

And now they are having the gall to say that he has accepted full responsibility? How? That sort of statement is followed by a resignation, not a 'now let's forget about it and move on'. How has he demonstrated that he has done anything apart from his utmost to weasel out of taking any sort of responsibility, to the point of asking Sue Gray to give up on her report? The report that that he told the rest of us that we had to wait months for the outcome of to find out what he already knew.

He says he wants to deliver what the British people want. Polls said yesterday that a majority want him to resign. Get the fuck on with it then.

But polls also showed that only a tiny minority of people actually believe he has the integrity to do the right thing (learned from bitter experience).

So what, the British people are stuck with this craven, corrupt liar as leader?

Well no. He could be no-confidenced by his MPs. What the fuck are they waiting for? Do they think it is to their benefit to have him shitting over public office every day? 'Oh but they can't think of anyone better'. What exactly does that say about the state of the Tory party if that's true?

Cannot stand seeing his face, hearing his pathetic lies, seeing his shitty schtick any more. JUST FUCK OFF BORIS.

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GreekGod · 26/05/2022 18:01

Fully agree. I still can't believe that despite him lying and breaking the law, that people still want him as prime minister. It is so shocking to me. Everyone had family members or friends who died. But yet lots of people I know are just saying "move on". Johnson seems to have this "celebrity attraction". I just think he's awful and is never accountable. The word "sorry" has been so overused and has lost all meaning and is merely used to excuse bad behaviour it seems.

mbosnz · 26/05/2022 18:01

I imagine Clavinova and JaniieJones will be along momentarily to clear this up for you.

Siiiiigghhhhhhh.

MelonsMelonsMelons · 26/05/2022 18:02

I don’t get this “there’s no-one else” argument. It’s a truly dreadful reason to keep a moral vacuum like Johnson in office. Shows just how far we’ve slumped in our expectations of those in power.

Parky04 · 26/05/2022 18:04

SirChenjins · 26/05/2022 17:23

I genuinely have no idea. Think what you like about the Tories, but they've been pretty quick in the past in jettisoning PMs whom they thought would lose them the next election. Quite why they all seem intent on defending this one is a mystery.

You have answered your own question!

baroqueandblue · 26/05/2022 18:05

CraftyGin · 26/05/2022 17:33

Yawn

We keeping you up? 🙄

SomersetONeil · 26/05/2022 18:07

Boris is untouchable, and nobody is willing to vote for the alternative party.

So. You’re stuck with him.

AppleandRhubarbTart · 26/05/2022 18:08

MelonsMelonsMelons · 26/05/2022 18:02

I don’t get this “there’s no-one else” argument. It’s a truly dreadful reason to keep a moral vacuum like Johnson in office. Shows just how far we’ve slumped in our expectations of those in power.

We don't have the institutions or mechanisms to boot a PM out if his MPs are sufficiently craven, so it doesn't matter what we think of their reasoning. That's long been the case, we just never had such a backbone free bunch before. And I can't think of another time that a PM has deliberately removed so many of the potential opponents, not in recent years anyway.

There presumably would come a theoretical point when enough of them identified him as a liability, maybe if there were millions on the streets or something, but part of the problem is that our electoral system simply ignores so many of us. This is just another manifestation of it.

Oliveandbay · 26/05/2022 18:08

No clue, hideous man.

noblegiraffe · 26/05/2022 18:09

SomersetONeil · 26/05/2022 18:07

Boris is untouchable, and nobody is willing to vote for the alternative party.

So. You’re stuck with him.

Tory MPs could get rid of him.

Maybe their constituents should remind them of that fact. Because polls say that people are very much willing to vote for other parties.

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Theforest · 26/05/2022 18:09

I don't see why he is untouchable in wake of all this shit.
He must have something on people

RishiRich · 26/05/2022 18:12

YANBU. He should have gone days, weeks, months, years ago.

Lonelycrab · 26/05/2022 18:13

Because he’s morally bankrupt, always has been and always will be. Much like Trump, he’ll have to be dragged out kicking and screaming.

countrygirl99 · 26/05/2022 18:14

Because he has adopted the classic tactic of a second rater and filled the cabinet with lightweights to minimise the chances of a strong rival emerging. It's paying off for him now.

SomersetONeil · 26/05/2022 18:14

Tory MPs could get rid of him.

But they don’t.

I don't see why he is untouchable in wake of all this shit.

🤷🏻‍♀️ But he is.

noblegiraffe · 26/05/2022 18:14

Remember him saying he was angry about the Allegra Stratton video?

She resigned.

God, if he'd gone then, we would have been spared MONTHS of this.

Why the fuck is Boris Johnson still Prime Minister?
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Isitsixoclockalready · 26/05/2022 18:14

ilovesooty · 26/05/2022 17:24

We know why. The tory backbenchers are afraid of losing their majorities.

And sufficient numbers of people will say

He got Brexit done
We should move on
They're all as bad as each other
But Corbyn
But Starmer

Take your pick. It doesn't matter what he does. People with no moral compass, be it voters or backbenchers, will justify his remaining in power.

Of course by saying this I'm apparently preventing people from having a different opinion

Agree with this totally.

SomersetONeil · 26/05/2022 18:17

Isitsixoclockalready · 26/05/2022 18:14

Agree with this totally.

I agree with this so much that I’d even go so far as to say if there were an election tomorrow, Boris would be voted back in.

AppleandRhubarbTart · 26/05/2022 18:17

countrygirl99 · 26/05/2022 18:14

Because he has adopted the classic tactic of a second rater and filled the cabinet with lightweights to minimise the chances of a strong rival emerging. It's paying off for him now.

Yup.

And Rishi has clearly missed his moment too, so that helps Johnson.

SomersetONeil · 26/05/2022 18:17

Boris knows it. And everyone around him knows it.

Isitsixoclockalready · 26/05/2022 18:19

MelonsMelonsMelons · 26/05/2022 18:02

I don’t get this “there’s no-one else” argument. It’s a truly dreadful reason to keep a moral vacuum like Johnson in office. Shows just how far we’ve slumped in our expectations of those in power.

I totally agree with this. I can't be doing with the "they're all the same" and "there's no one else worth voting for" bollocks any more. They have literally just done what the opposition have been calling for them to do for weeks. Let's actually see what the 'others' can do, whether it be by one party or a coalition and then if they do turn our to be as bad then the point will be proven. Personally I couldn't see it being worse but there's every chance that it could be better.

Cherryana · 26/05/2022 18:26

I agree and I find the ‘move on’ strategy deeply offensive.

Can anyone answer what Johnson has going on behind the scenes - money/power/influence because this all ‘untouchable Boris’ stinks.

It can’t just be ‘old boys network’ sticking together.

JanglyBeads · 26/05/2022 18:29

How his lawyers may have helped him escape more fines

https://twitter.com/lawanddpolicy/status/1529761435538051072?s=21&t=wckYOkqi1DmWlF2eWybDg

balalake · 26/05/2022 18:31

Because Rishi Sunak was fined and all the fuss about his wife's tax affairs. So at least one of the likely successors is out of the picture.

Tara336 · 26/05/2022 18:31

Hes despicable and needs to go

thecatfromjapan · 26/05/2022 18:33

I'm surprised, frankly.

I think the fact TeamBoris effectively scuppered Sunak incredibly effectively has a lot to do with it.