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Why the fuck is Boris Johnson still Prime Minister?

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noblegiraffe · 26/05/2022 17:18

Fucksake. I mean seeing minister after minister wheeled out to defend the indefensible in the media rounds. Do they have no shame? Prattling on about how it was an 'essential part of leadership' to be a Toastmaster to an illegal piss-up. No, leadership was the Queen sat alone at a funeral, like so many of her subjects had to do. Not carrying on with your unprofessional boozy work culture and then have your team crow about how they 'got away with it' when they successfully didn't vomit in front of the cameras there for another press conference telling everyone how important it was to stick to the rules.

Johnson knew it wasn't right to have birthday parties when he personally wrote to a kid saying they were right to not have theirs, but then thought it was just fine to have one of his own and then announce that all rules had been followed to Parliament? (The police disagree, as does anyone who was forced to cancel their own celebrations).

Telling people that it was his duty to have a party for leaving colleagues while at the same time people couldn't be with dying family?

And now they are having the gall to say that he has accepted full responsibility? How? That sort of statement is followed by a resignation, not a 'now let's forget about it and move on'. How has he demonstrated that he has done anything apart from his utmost to weasel out of taking any sort of responsibility, to the point of asking Sue Gray to give up on her report? The report that that he told the rest of us that we had to wait months for the outcome of to find out what he already knew.

He says he wants to deliver what the British people want. Polls said yesterday that a majority want him to resign. Get the fuck on with it then.

But polls also showed that only a tiny minority of people actually believe he has the integrity to do the right thing (learned from bitter experience).

So what, the British people are stuck with this craven, corrupt liar as leader?

Well no. He could be no-confidenced by his MPs. What the fuck are they waiting for? Do they think it is to their benefit to have him shitting over public office every day? 'Oh but they can't think of anyone better'. What exactly does that say about the state of the Tory party if that's true?

Cannot stand seeing his face, hearing his pathetic lies, seeing his shitty schtick any more. JUST FUCK OFF BORIS.

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SleeplessInEngland · 27/05/2022 11:42

"He can't be held responsible for pissed up civil servants, as the Met indeed found."

He was fined at least once, lest we forget. He was also in the room when several others were fined for separate incidents.

I know the tory line has moved on from "he had no idea about any of this" to "he got the big calls on covid right", but let's not brush away irrefutable facts competely.

Calafsidentity · 27/05/2022 11:43

He can't be held responsible for pissed up civil servants, as the Met indeed found

Of course he can! The person at the top sets the tone! That is true of all organisations I have ever worked for anyway.

Remember Thatcher and the lack of British spring water at the party conference one year? Like her or loathe her, she was on top of the detail.

You get the impression that half of Johnson's popularity among his MPs is down to the fact that he turns a blind eye to misdemeanours both large and small. It helps that he has got rid of any with backbone or integrity. Life's a game; I get away with it and you can too! It's the ethos of many public schools; it's ok if you don't get caught, No personal responsibility required! And I'm afraid that leadership style is the refuge of incompetents. They can't lead by example or walk the walk so they bluff and subvert instead.

Noorandapples · 27/05/2022 11:44

I misread that as Toadmaster and that just about sums him up

Clavinova · 27/05/2022 13:14

noblegiraffe
Keir is right, guilty men should go

And guilty women?
Nicola Sturgeon broke her own Covid rules at least twice - she gave a public apology for one - she was warned by the police for another. She was lucky not to be fined like Rishi Sunak.

Not to mention these female leaders - they didn't resign either:

Finland's Prime Minister Sanna Marin has apologised for going clubbing after coming into close contact with a Covid-19 case.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-59577371

Norway’s prime minister, Erna Solberg, has been fined 20,000 kroner (£1,713) after breaking coronavirus social-distancing rules when organising a family gathering to celebrate her birthday.

www.theguardian.com/world/2021/apr/09/norway-prime-minister-erna-solberg-fined-breaking-covid-rules-birthday

Danish Prime Minister Mette Frederiksen has made a public apology after she was filmed shopping for clothes in central Copenhagen without wearing a face mask.

www.thelocal.dk/20211204/danish-pm-apologises-for-failing-to-wear-face-mask-in-clothes-shop/

countrygirl99 · 27/05/2022 14:14

SueSaid · 27/05/2022 10:36

God, they've just launched a site to highlight how folk can access financial help announced yesterday. How very dare they. I'm discusted.

Now they have finally decided to implement the Labour policies they previously whipped against.

SleeplessInEngland · 27/05/2022 14:16

In what's ubdoubtedly a complete conincidence, Johnson has just watered down the ministerial code - allowing ministers to break the rules without resigning - and blocked a bid to give his ethics advisor the power to investigate him.

www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/boris-johnson-waters-down-ethics-27083430

Clavinova · 27/05/2022 14:27

Now they have finally decided to implement the Labour policies they previously whipped against

Labour claim they thought of the idea 5 months ago -

September 2021 here:

Kwasi Kwarteng told MPs the government was considering “all options”, including looking at the Spanish government’s plan for a €3bn (£2.58bn) windfall tax on generators and energy traders that stand to gain from the energy crisis while homes and suppliers struggle.

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/sep/22/windfall-tax-on-firms-profiting-from-gas-price-rises-an-option-says-minister

ilovesooty · 27/05/2022 14:33

SleeplessInEngland · 27/05/2022 14:16

In what's ubdoubtedly a complete conincidence, Johnson has just watered down the ministerial code - allowing ministers to break the rules without resigning - and blocked a bid to give his ethics advisor the power to investigate him.

www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/boris-johnson-waters-down-ethics-27083430

Disgusting - but unsurprising.

SleeplessInEngland · 27/05/2022 14:34

Clavinova · 27/05/2022 14:27

Now they have finally decided to implement the Labour policies they previously whipped against

Labour claim they thought of the idea 5 months ago -

September 2021 here:

Kwasi Kwarteng told MPs the government was considering “all options”, including looking at the Spanish government’s plan for a €3bn (£2.58bn) windfall tax on generators and energy traders that stand to gain from the energy crisis while homes and suppliers struggle.

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/sep/22/windfall-tax-on-firms-profiting-from-gas-price-rises-an-option-says-minister

Interesting - someone should have reminded Kwarteng of this when he voted against a windfall tax only ten days ago.

I wonder what's happened since then that changed the party's mind.

AppleandRhubarbTart · 27/05/2022 14:42

SleeplessInEngland · 27/05/2022 14:16

In what's ubdoubtedly a complete conincidence, Johnson has just watered down the ministerial code - allowing ministers to break the rules without resigning - and blocked a bid to give his ethics advisor the power to investigate him.

www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/boris-johnson-waters-down-ethics-27083430

Funny that.

BringBackCoffeeCreams · 27/05/2022 17:38

I genuinely cannot comprehend how anybody, no matter what their political views, can continue to support this man. He is utterly devoid of integrity. Is this really the best representative of conservative values to conservative party has to offer? Really?

GladysEehmmanuel · 27/05/2022 17:46

BringBackCoffeeCreams · 27/05/2022 17:38

I genuinely cannot comprehend how anybody, no matter what their political views, can continue to support this man. He is utterly devoid of integrity. Is this really the best representative of conservative values to conservative party has to offer? Really?

Even the bots must be squirming.
Is there any doubt now that supporting him is mocking the entire establishment as well as the general public?

whoopsnomore · 27/05/2022 18:17

AppleandRhubarbTart · 27/05/2022 14:42

Funny that.

"Funny" in a chilling, fascist kind of sense, yeah.

It's shameful and deeply deeply worrying. The electoral commission now under Government control, constituency boundaries massaged, right to protest criminalised, editorial broadcast independence under attack (C4), police independence compromised, right to be in said Govt and lie in Parliament and be generally dishonest, self-interested and corrupt, yeah, fine with that.

newnamethanks · 27/05/2022 18:29

Finland. Denmark. Norway. Scraping an empty barrel.

bettbburg · 27/05/2022 20:26

bettbburg
"Larry the Downing Street cat could do a better job if being PM than Johnson."

The fleas on Larry could do a better job of being PM than Johnson.

"The turds dropped by the fleas on Johnson's cat would make a better PM."

The flies on the turds dropped by the fleas on Johnson's cat would make a better PM."

noblegiraffe · 27/05/2022 20:49

SleeplessInEngland · 27/05/2022 14:16

In what's ubdoubtedly a complete conincidence, Johnson has just watered down the ministerial code - allowing ministers to break the rules without resigning - and blocked a bid to give his ethics advisor the power to investigate him.

www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/boris-johnson-waters-down-ethics-27083430

Just like he did to get his mate Owen Paterson off the hook.

Hopefully this will end as badly for him as that did for Paterson.

What a crook Johnson is. Rewriting the rules that he's under investigation for breaking should put many more MPs in mind to send in their letters.

Sir Bob Neill who has just called for Johnson to resign said that he made his mind up after discussing with his constituents and reading his emails so it certainly seems worth contacting MPs about this.

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Plantlifeandsoul · 27/05/2022 20:55

Calafsidentity · Today 11:43
“He can't be held responsible for pissed up civil servants, as the Met indeed found”
**
Of course he can! The person at the top sets the tone! That is true of all organisations I have ever worked for anyway.
**
Remember Thatcher and the lack of British spring water at the party conference one year? Like her or loathe her, she was on top of the detail.
**
**
You get the impression that half of Johnson's popularity among his MPs is down to the fact that he turns a blind eye to misdemeanours both large and small. It helps that he has got rid of any with backbone or integrity. Life's a game; I get away with it and you can too! It's the ethos of many public schools; it's ok if you don't get caught, No personal responsibility required! And I'm afraid that leadership style is the refuge of incompetents. They can't lead by example or walk the walk so they bluff and subvert instead.

So true!

Plantlifeandsoul · 27/05/2022 21:00

EMAIL YOUR MPs.

Please! It’s so easy to find details. Just Google their name and you’ll find the email address. It takes five minutes. The more we communicate our dissatisfaction, anger and concern the better.

I would be calling for this no matter which party were in power. This is not good enough. We deserve better.

This government have no credibility left. Why would we listen to them again? We need proper leadership to get us through the incredibly stormy seas ahead and if we don’t fight now for what we need then we deserve everything we get.

noblegiraffe · 27/05/2022 21:06

You don't even need to google your MP's details, put your postcode into

www.writetothem.com

and it will bring up your MP, a template to make sure you have the right details like your address (which is needed for a response) - you just need to type your message.

It also checks with you a couple of weeks later to see if they responded.

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JanglyBeads · 27/05/2022 21:08

Tories asking that question also @noblegiraffe

JanglyBeads · 27/05/2022 21:09

New polling shows nearly all red wall seats would go

Why the fuck is Boris Johnson still Prime Minister?
Clavinova · 27/05/2022 21:09

In what's undoubtedly a complete coincidence, Johnson has just watered down the ministerial code - allowing ministers to break the rules without resigning

Watered down?

c. It is of paramount importance that Ministers give
accurate and truthful information to Parliament, correcting
any inadvertent error at the earliest opportunity. Ministers
who knowingly mislead Parliament will be expected to
offer their resignation to the Prime Minister;

www.gov.uk/government/publications/ministerial-code

Notonthestairs · 27/05/2022 21:16

Well The Times to think he's weakened the Code - removed a section on the ethics of government, removed sections regarding not bullying staff or having a conflict of interest and refused to give Lord Geildt independence of instigating investigations.

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/boris-johnson-changes-ministerial-code-so-rule-breakers-can-avoid-sack-sz68nskxm

TwinklingFairyLights · 27/05/2022 21:19

SirChenjins · 26/05/2022 17:23

I genuinely have no idea. Think what you like about the Tories, but they've been pretty quick in the past in jettisoning PMs whom they thought would lose them the next election. Quite why they all seem intent on defending this one is a mystery.

This has occurred to me too.

JanglyBeads · 27/05/2022 21:19

Even the Telegraph is shocked!