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Who will win between Johnny Depp and Amber Heard defamation case

681 replies

Egtermekaar · 25/05/2022 14:49

If you were jury in this case, how would you decide?

I think Johnny Depp will win because he had strong, reliable and consistent evidence of "his" case

I hope MN will allow debate about a matter of public interest.

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BobbinHood · 03/06/2022 15:15

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mynamesnotMa · 03/06/2022 15:17

Many are suggesting restraint as it's so painful and triggering.

minutesturntohours · 03/06/2022 15:18

Aspiringmatriarch · 03/06/2022 15:06

@minutesturntohours You are VILE. Just vile. Spewing misinformation for the hell of it. Hoping some of it gains traction or people are misinformed and believe you I guess? She had NO CHOICE but to take part in this trial as you damn well know. She never said he raped her with a broken bottle, never encouraged him to self harm. You are the Donald Trump of this thread, you don't even pretend to care about what's true and what's false. I hate that this is what society has become.

Oh sorry - she said he raped her with a bottle and she 'didnt know' if it was broken. Is that any better?

She is on fucking tape telling him to use a sharper knife.

No choice? Is that why shes on IG yesterday morning wanting another trial?

No - everything I've said is true. Could you quote my misinformation?

As for Trump and your rambling about me being vile, I can't even be arsed addressing that.

minutesturntohours · 03/06/2022 15:19

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"a druggie cunt" nice.

mynamesnotMa · 03/06/2022 15:23

Midlifemusings · 03/06/2022 15:03

Johnny has been playing music and in a band and touring since before he as an actor. He is and has always been a musician. He is also an artist / painter.

He didn't fly to England to pretend to be a rock star. He flew to England because he likely had a contractual commitment as a musician.

This trial is mostly harmful to men or women who intended to make false allegations. This trial and verdict has really put truth and honesty at the forefront and said - to those of you tleling the truth about being abused - we hear you, we see you. To those of you making up lies or flipping the scrip to try and make your victim out to be abusive - we won't stand for that.

Johnny is an imperfect victim, far from an angel or a hero. We all know victims can be imperfect and can act in many different ways. We also know Johnny had childhood trauma and has had to deal with addiction since he was a child. These both absolutely impact him and his life in varying ways.

It seems there is a debate as to whether a victim should be called an abuser when they react to the abuse directed at them. Some think that yes - any action regardless of the dynamic makes you an abuser and so Johnny is an abuser and not just a reactive victim. Others think that reactions are not abusive as they are not motivated by abuse but more out of furstration and helplessness - in that case Johnny is not an abuser. Whether or not Johnny is an abuser comes down to your view on mutual abuse. We know Amber is an abuser - is her victim also an abuser when he reacts? When he expresses frustration or anger? When he has had enough of the abuse and wants out?

Is he bollix an accomplished musician. He thinks he is.

A surprise impromptu visit isn't a planned visit.

I didn't read the rest of your dribble.

minutesturntohours · 03/06/2022 15:25

Odd response to an excellent, measured, well thought out post

Liorae · 03/06/2022 15:42

Then he flues to England gets on stage and has the terminity to perform like a rock star.
And get standing ovation while "off his face" according to you. Where did you get the information about his being "OFF HIS FACE"?

HRTQueen · 03/06/2022 16:07

A few years ago when he started his band he was ridiculed by the music press and laughed at

Now we are in the full force of a misogynistic wave of press because he is the man who stood up to women he is suddenly a talented musician to be taken seriously

minutesturntohours · 03/06/2022 16:14

HRTQueen · 03/06/2022 16:07

A few years ago when he started his band he was ridiculed by the music press and laughed at

Now we are in the full force of a misogynistic wave of press because he is the man who stood up to women he is suddenly a talented musician to be taken seriously

It's not bloody misogynistic! He proved one woman to be a liar, how is that misogynistic?

HRTQueen · 03/06/2022 16:23

Read my post

I said the full force of misogynistic press

unless you are claiming there has been absolutely none of this in the press and on sm

Aspiringmatriarch · 03/06/2022 16:29

Oh sorry - she said he raped her with a bottle and she 'didnt know' if it was broken. Is that any better?

Yes it is better when you don't lie.

She is on fucking tape telling him to use a sharper knife.

And repeatedly begging him not to cut himself. But you left that out, because lying is apparently your thing.

No choice? Is that why shes on IG yesterday morning wanting another trial?

If she has grounds to appeal, she's entitled to do so. It doesn't necessarily mean there would even be another trial, and appealing a judgement that is from her point of view disastrous does not mean wanting to go through a public trial. She never wanted the trial filmed in the first place.

mynamesnotMa · 03/06/2022 16:51

Liorae · 03/06/2022 15:42

Then he flues to England gets on stage and has the terminity to perform like a rock star.
And get standing ovation while "off his face" according to you. Where did you get the information about his being "OFF HIS FACE"?

Where did I say he was off his face if anything it shows how calculated and measured he is.
Please don't misquote me to suit your narrative

Supersimkin2 · 03/06/2022 19:46

Terminity 😁

minutesturntohours · 05/06/2022 13:26

Aspiringmatriarch · 03/06/2022 16:29

Oh sorry - she said he raped her with a bottle and she 'didnt know' if it was broken. Is that any better?

Yes it is better when you don't lie.

She is on fucking tape telling him to use a sharper knife.

And repeatedly begging him not to cut himself. But you left that out, because lying is apparently your thing.

No choice? Is that why shes on IG yesterday morning wanting another trial?

If she has grounds to appeal, she's entitled to do so. It doesn't necessarily mean there would even be another trial, and appealing a judgement that is from her point of view disastrous does not mean wanting to go through a public trial. She never wanted the trial filmed in the first place.

Youte playing word games. And you've fallen for Amber's tactics - the good ole imply and retract. She didnt know if it was broken, she didnt know if the Kate rumour was true...leaving her grounds to plant the seed and retract. Common tactic by abusers.

Re the knife-the fact she said that is irrelevant.

Aspiringmatriarch · 06/06/2022 18:25

Oh, hi minutes. Still busy being wrong about everything I see!

minutesturntohours · 06/06/2022 19:35

Aspiringmatriarch · 06/06/2022 18:25

Oh, hi minutes. Still busy being wrong about everything I see!

Which part?

Oh yes I forgot. The judge is wrong, Iohnnys wrong, we are wrong, only you are right....

felineweird · 06/06/2022 20:09

@Aspiringmatriarch 🤦‍♀️

minutesturntohours · 06/06/2022 20:13

HRTQueen · 03/06/2022 16:23

Read my post

I said the full force of misogynistic press

unless you are claiming there has been absolutely none of this in the press and on sm

I am.

MIsogynistic implies because she's a woman.

People don't like her because shes a liar.

Tonka2 · 14/06/2022 04:53

I kind of thing the whole sordid thing stopped being so contentious when she lied. Her credibility was gone. Period. Yes she may have been a victim of DV, but we will never know. She lied on the stand multiple times and most, if not all, of her "mountains of evidence" was disproven.

Butitsnotfunnyisititsserious · 14/06/2022 06:35

mynamesnotMa · 03/06/2022 15:05

Now he is releasing an album to capitalise on his infamy. You couldn't make it up.

No doubt he will give the proceeds to a domestic abuse charity. Might even dedicate a song to victims.

Look up machiavellian. This is him.

Good for him if he does. Maybe he'll actually donate not just pretend to for likes. You know, like AH.

Tonka2 · 14/06/2022 07:21

Butitsnotfunnyisititsserious · 14/06/2022 06:35

Good for him if he does. Maybe he'll actually donate not just pretend to for likes. You know, like AH.

But she pledged! That's just as good as donate isn't it?? 😂

BigFatLiar · 14/06/2022 10:50

Tonka2 · 14/06/2022 07:21

But she pledged! That's just as good as donate isn't it?? 😂

Or find a wealthy boyfriend to donate on your behalf.

Now he is releasing an album to capitalise on his infamy. You couldn't make it up.

He's been in bands for years. It won't be the first album he's been on.

Midlifemusings · 14/06/2022 11:39

The album is being released in July and one of the single is already out. This album was in the works and likely mostly complete well before the trial and likely would have been released win or lose.

Johnny has been playing music and touring and putting out albums well before any trials. Many people don't seem to know he is a musician.

AliceMcK · 16/06/2022 09:05

Midlifemusings · 03/06/2022 15:03

Johnny has been playing music and in a band and touring since before he as an actor. He is and has always been a musician. He is also an artist / painter.

He didn't fly to England to pretend to be a rock star. He flew to England because he likely had a contractual commitment as a musician.

This trial is mostly harmful to men or women who intended to make false allegations. This trial and verdict has really put truth and honesty at the forefront and said - to those of you tleling the truth about being abused - we hear you, we see you. To those of you making up lies or flipping the scrip to try and make your victim out to be abusive - we won't stand for that.

Johnny is an imperfect victim, far from an angel or a hero. We all know victims can be imperfect and can act in many different ways. We also know Johnny had childhood trauma and has had to deal with addiction since he was a child. These both absolutely impact him and his life in varying ways.

It seems there is a debate as to whether a victim should be called an abuser when they react to the abuse directed at them. Some think that yes - any action regardless of the dynamic makes you an abuser and so Johnny is an abuser and not just a reactive victim. Others think that reactions are not abusive as they are not motivated by abuse but more out of furstration and helplessness - in that case Johnny is not an abuser. Whether or not Johnny is an abuser comes down to your view on mutual abuse. We know Amber is an abuser - is her victim also an abuser when he reacts? When he expresses frustration or anger? When he has had enough of the abuse and wants out?

Very well said 👏👏👏

DysonSphere · 16/06/2022 18:36

minutesturntohours · 05/06/2022 13:26

Youte playing word games. And you've fallen for Amber's tactics - the good ole imply and retract. She didnt know if it was broken, she didnt know if the Kate rumour was true...leaving her grounds to plant the seed and retract. Common tactic by abusers.

Re the knife-the fact she said that is irrelevant.

How on earth would a person not know if a bottle supposedly used on them sexually was broken? I'd jolly well know. I'd wagar most women would.

Oh yes, if you're Amber Heard, you wouldn't know.

Lol how ridiculous, yet it seems some believe this?

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