Who will win between Johnny Depp and Amber Heard defamation case

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If you were jury in this case, how would you decide?

I think Johnny Depp will win because he had strong, reliable and consistent evidence of "his" case

I hope MN will allow debate about a matter of public interest.

Except the evidence wasn't clear that he abused her, else the case would have gone very differently. What a massive own goal.

His career was on the decline due to his behaviour on set drug taking and alcoholism fact. Plus hes no longer a sexy anti hero. His method acting playing a drunken pirate no longer that appealing.

But also - why would Kate Moss testifying change anything? There absolutely was rumours for years that that had happened, Kate Moss saying it didn’t doesn’t magically erase those rumours and blind items that were all over for years.

I wasn’t public knowledge and I don’t think there is anything in the public domain about this rumour prior to when AH said it in 2020 so I have no idea where her ‘friends’ heard it from, let alone to tell her about it just before a stair incident of her very own where it was ‘fresh in her mind’. More likely JD mentioned what really happened at some point in their relationship and she re wrote history. Happy to be corrected if anyone can find anything.

I hope that's not directed at me - given I was the one on the receiving end!

PP would have accepted the verdict if Amber won, that's the annoying thing!

The evidence of violence was clear enough for a legally trained judge though.

@minutesturntohours Correct, and that's the part that undermines their arguments.

More abuse. Thanks.

I think it's foul that you think you're a better person than someone because they have an addiction.

in the UK.

You can't accept one verdict and not another. We wouldn't be having this conversation if Amber won.

There are indie movies people see and indie movies people don’t. He’ll probably have to resign himself to the latter.

(And as for Disney, he was happy enough to take their money so… shrug.)

I think I’m a much better person than someone who has admitted to head butting and kicking their spouse and who has put drugs ahead of their kids, yes. Didn’t think that would be a controversial view, let alone “foul”, but we are fully through the looking glass here.

I'd rather believe someone legally trained to look at evidence in a fair and objective manner. So yes I can.

But you didn't say that.

You are of course better than someone who assaults someone, but you are not "better than" someone wiht an addiction. It's not as easy as "putting drugs before their kids", and I'm not really talking about Johnny here. The way you talk about addiction is foul, yes.

The thing is though, not every legal decision is sound and reasonable. In my 10 years of analysing case law, a lot of things stood out to me that are just legally justifiable. Judges in the U.K. are not held to account over their judgments and can basically decide what they want with no recourse for the parties to challenge the decision unless they have erred in law.

Nor would we be having this conversation if he didn't use the courts to continue to abuse her.

As for Kate Moss they werent married he didn't have a close relationship. They had a long distance relationship. Her wooden statement was utterly staged

eh?!

the same Amber who the morning after being done for defamation was on Instagram again painting herself as a victim and planning to appeal and go through another case?

If you've just been in a trial and it finishes, you're going to get back to normal life asap. You see it on all the news broadcasts and how much interest it excited, so of course you're going to go online to see what's being said and whether your opinion was reflected in wider society. Blimey, I can do that in under two minutes. Watch a few videos. Say 4-5 hrs. Set up a new tik tok account. 10 minutes. And you're good to go. He could have done all that on Wednesday evening after the trial ended. Then he's got Thursday to sort out his content. Maybe you're just not very up to date on how quickly and adeptly young people incorporate SM into their lives?

Kate whos expression completely changed when they asked about her feelings for Johnny, Kate who has never spoken on it publicly, Kate who was cut off by Amber's lawyer because she was just about to say he'd never been abusive. Okaydokie.

Your determination and investment into a proven, abusive liar is interesting, fair play to you, but I just don't understand it.

Kate who yesterday was getting of her face with her ex. Yep totally unbiased.
Questioning her was pointless.

minutesturntohours
Why do you keep using the statements I make are you unable.
to form your own opinion?

They’re filmed in a car, saying today was the last day of the trial...and heavily encouraging their new unrelated Instagram account.

Seems totally legit.

I did, you just didn’t read it properly. And as someone who unfortunately has addicts in their family, the way I talk about them and the impact they have on people is realistic and based on experienced, not foul. I am a better person than them. I am a better person than Jonny bloody Depp.

You can't accept one verdict and not another.

Everyone lauding JD on this thread is doing just that.

So you don't believe anyone who was friends with Johnny or Amber? Of course anyone who is friends is biased - but biased people can still tell the truth or tell lies.

That doesn't really leave any witnesses for Amber at all. And we know at least one of Amber's friends already lied during her deposition in an effort to defend Amber. They are definitely not trustworthy.

Johnny still had a number of witnesses who weren't his friends.