Amber Heard is facing the "most voluminous" social media smear campaign ever

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I just came across this link on Github and I suppose it should not be shocked by this, but the sheer numbers do shock me. It's the number of posts, comments, tweets and accounts that have been used to spread misinformation about Amber Heard. Here is the link:

Amber-HeardDisinformationOperations_Bots

Am I being unreasonable to be shocked by this? Why on Earth is this woman targeted with so much hate? Why are MRA's scope-locked on her in particular?

Should read "but she refused to press charges"

Well the fact that a uk judge found that 12 of the 14 accusations against depp were true is pretty compelling evidence that he's abused her in some way, don't you think?

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-54779430.amp

Victims don't have to act a certain way in order to be a victim. She doesn't have to be an angel to be a victim. Abusers are very good at charming people, especially male, high profile, famous ones with loads of money.

If it's ok to judge one woman for not being enough of a victim, then all women are fair game for those comments.

The question isn't whether amber abused him. Maybe she did, maybe she didn't. The question is whether he abused her. A uk judge already found that he did, in the libel trial against the sun. So why are you all so sure he's done nothing wrong? Because he used to be good looking and he's rich and famous?

We're clearly watching different trials then

She destroyed his career so he is doing the same to her with this court case. Before only her side of the story was really heard, now everyone has heard both sides, and she is coming off a lot worse.

Tbf they both sound as bad as eachother, it was clearly a toxic relationship, and i think they both abused eachother, so to me her career should be ruined like his

AH is no saint but she was definitely abused in her marriage. The jury should find for AH in my view.

She should have walked away a long time before she did.

I’m worried she is going to commit suicide when the trial ends :(

Last week I was in the belief that they were both as bad as each other. However, after making the effort to read it properly, including timelines of events. JD was abusive in the beginning. Then AH reacted to his abuse. Not all abused people are scared and timid. Sometimes people snap and I truly believe AH snapped and started her pay back.

I believed her when the trial started but, having watched live, no longer do.

I think he will lose the trial but it is clear that he has won in the public eye.

They were in a very unhealthy relationship with fault on both sides. Yet she was the one positioning herself as a domestic abuse survivor to gain publicity and credentials. I am pleased it backfired.

He destroyed his own career - he was on the slide long before Amber Heard because of his drug taking and being an unreliable old bloater. “Hell raiser” as someone else has already described is just a euphemism for “scruffy, coked up twat who won’t turn up on time for filming”.

I also think it’s very clear he was abusive to her, likely partly due to alchohol and drug abuse. The fact he’s a drug addict is no secret. And living with an addict is never easy and can easily be abusive because of what the substance abuse does to them.

it’s also clear Johnny is abusive in the way he reacts, and she is struggling to be heard.

does this mean she wasn’t also abusive at times, no it doesn’t. It was clearly a toxic relationship, but I think anyone who thinks this is as simple as she’s a liar and he is as clean as a whistle is deeply foolish.

on balance, due to his drink and drug addiction, his more powerful position, he was late forties she was early twenties, much more successful, it was a huge power imbalance, I strongly suspect she was abused.

Yep not surprised at all. I keep seeing absolutely horrible social media posts about her. Definitely a smear campaign going on.

If anything should prove JD is abusive it's this.

The question isn't whether amber abused him. Maybe she did, maybe she didn't. The question is whether he abused her. A uk judge already found that he did, in the libel trial against the sun. So why are you all so sure he's done nothing wrong?

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ive not been paying much attention but i have been reading some of the mumsnet threads

he started the court case against the sun and lost, he has now gone after her directly

he promised her total global humiliation and he is delivering on that

I know that’s what I’m worried about. The hate for her is unreal. Caroline Flack did it, and she didn’t receive the level of hatred AH did.

I don’t like AH, I think she goaded JD but I don’t hate her, I don’t think he’s a saint either. She’s clearly messed up. It can’t be nice all the bad stuff from your marriage shown for the world to see and judge.

Its so weird that people do hate her so much, I haven’t known any man receive this much hate who has abused women.

My very basic opinion is that both of them are bad, Amber is worse.

I struggle to get on board with the sympathy. She tore his career down, and in doing so tried to make herself a face of domestic abuse survival, and come across noble by 'donating' her settlement.

She's done just as bad things, in fact worse as everything shown so far it definitely suggests she was the perpetrator and gas lighter, her ex also reported amber abused her too.

He is just doing the same back. I don't think he's attempting to clear his name, but if his career suffered for being an abuser then its only fair hers should suffer for being an abuser too.

I am however, not on board with the name calling.

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Im no fan of either of them and no doubt they both did things. But she’s is being publicly eviscerated.

“The relationship was wrong on many levels and clearly his addictions wouldn't have helped things. But she's a manipulative, nasty piece of work. To deny that just shows you haven't watched the evidence yourself, to me.”- she still doesn’t deserve this.

Do u really think that, if it was ur son falsely accused surely ud want justice,
I agree this does hurt true women of abuse but that's Amber's fault and any other men and women who lie about this.
Same punishment should be given to false accuser as the accused would have got,

@Allycat1989 - a uk high court judge found that he had physically assaulted her on 10 occsssions??

JD is not being falsely accused. He abused her. That is why he lost his first case. Secondly, both cases is JD trying to prove he is not an abuser but actually he is. AH reacted to his abuse after being ut through hell. He will more than likely lose this one too and he knows it. The only gain is that the public have turned against AH. Which I think was his aim.

I agree. From the bits of the trial that I've actually watched, I am inclined to believe her over him; and I don't particularly like her. I used work as a criminal defence lawyer, I think I'm pretty good at spotting the bullshitters, ive spent enough time listening to them and defending them; if I had to come down one side right now, it would be with her. I think they're both toxic - but her account is more plausible than his. They are both actors but he's doing a better job of acting, in my opinion. The level of vitriol directed at her is just terrifying. And the fawning over him, "ahh look he's so sad.." etc. is just sickening.

Also, there has already been a court case here in the UK and the judges found in her favour. I hate the Sun "newspaper" but they would have had to prove, on the balance of probabilities, that JD abused her. The judges that heard all the evidence are very experienced and used to hearing bullshit. They believed her over him. I am quite sure that JD will "win" this case in the US because they are using a jury who will undoubtedly be influenced by all the social media hype. I trust the UK Court overbthis trial in the US.

The whole thing is very worrying.

*Someone could very easily say the same about you, and then how would you feel? If you told someone about the abuse and they said:

"I don't believe her, she doesn't look like a victim, she's lying. He's a good man, he wouldn't do that. He might like a drink but he wouldn't hit a woman. I don't believe a word she says".

What makes you as a victim more worthy of sympathy than her as a victim?*

Wow. I'd hate you to be on jury service for a victim of DV.

I think his record of violence and the absolutely state of me might say something. What a foul ignorant, nasty thing to say, hang your head.

I think a lot of people are angry. Unfortuantly her truth is clearly not the whole truth and the damage this has done to domestic violence as a whole is horrendous.

Having been involved in a UK fact finding "balance of probabilities" hearing, I don't.

Yes I think that's a sad possibility.