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Amber Heard is facing the "most voluminous" social media smear campaign ever

253 replies

CaptSkippy · 24/05/2022 23:11

I just came across this link on Github and I suppose it should not be shocked by this, but the sheer numbers do shock me. It's the number of posts, comments, tweets and accounts that have been used to spread misinformation about Amber Heard. Here is the link:

Amber-HeardDisinformationOperations_Bots

Am I being unreasonable to be shocked by this? Why on Earth is this woman targeted with so much hate? Why are MRA's scope-locked on her in particular?

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orangeisthenewpuce · 25/05/2022 07:04

I'm seeing all the memes too but I think the reason is because were shown the most popular ones and anything with amber heard is very popular at the moment. They are very mean though no matter what you think of her and I agree the amount of them is staggering

Countrydiary · 25/05/2022 07:06

I’m another person who isn’t really following the case yet all I’m seeing is anti Amber Heard clips across social media. I think it’s targeted at demographics of women who would often be sympathetic to abuse victims (in terms of age etc.) and to me that is really really sinister.

erikbloodaxe · 25/05/2022 07:23

She's been called Amber Turd for good reason. I've followed the trial. I wasn't a fan of either beforehand and I'm not now but she is dreadful.

I think she needs serious help and soon.

BobbinHood · 25/05/2022 07:29

YANBU. It amazes me that I can be seeing the same things as someone else and they are coming to the absolute opposite conclusions. She’s clearly awful, but how anyone (particularly younger people who you’d think would have less investment in JD, having missed out on the years before he demonstrated himself to be nothing but a druggy, talentless, derivative creep) can still see him as anything but awful too amazes me.

RincewindsHat · 25/05/2022 07:39

Yes, right wing media had stepped in and has spontaneously spent $35,000 promoting anti-Amber Heard videos to people on FB (and if we know about that, how much else out there do we not know about?). When people are saying things about what she said and did wrong, her body language, her attitude etc, a lot of that comes from snippets they saw on FB that are purposely edited to discredit and mock Heard while ignoring Johnny Depp's antics in the courtroom. I suspect they were both guilty of some crappy behaviour but I cannot believe the sheer hatred against Heard for daring to speak out against a powerful man's treatment of her. He's doubling down on the abuse, setting out to ruin her for having a voice and an opinion on his behaviour (plenty of examples that he is no angel and treats people like sh*t) and somehow he's coming out of this well.

ProclivityForPyrotechnics · 25/05/2022 07:49

Is it a smear campaign when her lies are being exposed?

I do genuinely fear for her afterwards though.

Badqueen · 25/05/2022 07:53

threecupsofteaminimum · 24/05/2022 23:57

No offence OP but that link is the least legitimate website I've seen in some while!

I don't think Amber Heard is well.

Johnny Depp may well be a hell raiser but that does not make him an abuser.

I couldn't face my abuser like that in court now and what happened to me was over 20 months ago. She's the hide of a rhino, I don't believe a word she says.

Someone could very easily say the same about you, and then how would you feel? If you told someone about the abuse and they said:

"I don't believe her, she doesn't look like a victim, she's lying. He's a good man, he wouldn't do that. He might like a drink but he wouldn't hit a woman. I don't believe a word she says".

What makes you as a victim more worthy of sympathy than her as a victim?

Momicrone · 25/05/2022 07:53

I agree op, it's very sinister

VitaminB34 · 25/05/2022 07:57

I never watch celebrity news and have no interest in either of them, yet my Youtube recommended is full of videos of the trial.

AlternativePerspective · 25/05/2022 08:02

I have no idea why anyone watches or reads any of it. That or the other one, wagatha Christy or whatever it’s been dubbed.

From what I see the whole thing is a grab for attention. On all sides. They all seem toxic as the next one but wtf they all have to play this out in public is beyond me. As is why anyone actually wants to watch it.

BashfulClam · 25/05/2022 08:21

I don’t believe her but I think the relationship was highly toxic and damaging, his ex partners Winona Ryder and Vanessa Paradis said when AH first made her claims that he was never violent to them. From what I know an abuser is always abusive.

she must have ordered her legal team from Wish.com as they are utterly useless. One objected to his own question. One read out tabloid headlines without allowingJD to respond, one used the term ‘mega pint’ Erm a pint is a fixed amount.

what worries me is that if she has lied and is proven to have done so it makes it harder for other victims in future.

CaptSkippy · 25/05/2022 08:22

threecupsofteaminimum · 25/05/2022 00:23

I'm not sure you understand what I meant.

I still had nightmares from what I endured at the hands of my abuser up until 18 years afterwards. Her entire demeanour contradicts everything I know about fear of someone you loved who has hurt you very badly.

It's really harmful to assume that your reaction to abuse would be the same as that of another victim. This is why so many women are not believed.

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CaptSkippy · 25/05/2022 08:25

DontLookBackInAnger1 · 25/05/2022 01:01

I've been watching the LIVE court case. And she isn't being truthful. Do I believe he hasnt at least been verbally abusive? No. But I do think, when violence was involved, she was the aggressor. It's clear from the tape recording that she goaded him and would physically prevent him leaving a situation and at time, admits to being violent and then tries to manipulate/gaslight him into thinking it was something less major ("I didn't hit you Jonny, I pushed you. Come on, be a man...")

The relationship was wrong on many levels and clearly his addictions wouldn't have helped things. But she's a manipulative, nasty piece of work. To deny that just shows you haven't watched the evidence yourself, to me.

He is bigger and stronger than she is. How can she physically prevent him from doing anything he has decided to do?

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CaptSkippy · 25/05/2022 08:26

Gingerkittykat · 25/05/2022 01:24

I didn't understand the data from the original link, how many attacks of her have been made by bots?

The whole thing is disturbing, Johnny Depp is elevated to god like status and Amber Heard will likely never work again.

On Twitter alone, it's over 1.7 million made by close to half a million bot accounts.

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CaptSkippy · 25/05/2022 08:28

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Boby language analyses are junk-science. In not a single controlled study could they produce reliable results.

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monicagellerbing · 25/05/2022 08:29

@CaptSkippy you're delusional and I suggest you watch the court case where AH can't keep up with her own lies.

lemongreentea · 25/05/2022 08:30

JD is not a good man. He is however a great actor with a huge amount of money surrounded by yes men and women. When I look at him sitting in court he comes across as a bloated, washed up alcoholic with more money than sense who does drugs and has a temper. Any man who marries a woman with such a huge age gap screams red flags to me. Hes also lost his looks badly so that must be a dent to his ego.

AH is just an awful person and not a very good liar if the trial is anything to go by. She doesnt seem mentally well and needs to get urgent help. She also looks awful. Its either drugs or alcohol in both their cases that are making them both so bloated. Or possibly botox.

Two disgusting, entitled toxic (literally) morons suffering from problems of their own making.

lemongreentea · 25/05/2022 08:31

Forgot to add that Kate Moss being in court today will be interesting - another druggie loser.

CaptSkippy · 25/05/2022 08:31

monicagellerbing · 25/05/2022 08:29

@CaptSkippy you're delusional and I suggest you watch the court case where AH can't keep up with her own lies.

I suggest you take your own advice.

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MayDaze · 25/05/2022 08:31

Disneydatknee88 · 25/05/2022 00:59

This case has little to do with who was most at fault and all to do with who has the better lawyer. They are both at fault and all I can deduce from this is that they were both in a toxic relationship. Other than than its not for the general public to start picking sides or throwing abuse at either party. This has become sickeningly voyeuristic.

Exactly this and I think that it should never have been televised because it has become "entertaining" for a lot of people.

monicagellerbing · 25/05/2022 08:32

@Badqueen what makes you so sure she's a victim? Just because she's a woman doesn't mean she isn't capable of lying. Some of you seem to have the opinion she has been abused yet clearly haven't watched the trial

knittingaddict · 25/05/2022 08:35

I'm not on twitter, Instagram or Facebook. My daughter was the victim of domestic abuse. I think AH is lying and that she was the most abusive out of the two of them.

It's hard for me to say that because I want to believe women and the implications of AH lying are immense for women everywhere.

monicagellerbing · 25/05/2022 08:35

@CaptSkippy I have. I've been watching the trial. Time and time again she has been shown to lie, saying she was repeatedly punched yet photos show no injuries is just one example. This is exactly what she was relying on. People like you blindly believing her because she's female

MayDaze · 25/05/2022 08:37

I've adored Depp since I was a teen. This is hard to watch because he is not coming across well and the social media cacophony is akin to "burn the witch" and I fear they'll not stop til she's no longer here.

Re Kate Moss. I don't understand the "he never hit me therefore he never hit her" being taken as red.

My aunt was beaten so badly by her first husband in the late 70s that the police wanted to charge him with attempted murder (but he refused to press charges). He went on to marry again and had been happily married for 40 years - his current wife refuses to believe that he was ever violent because he is so gentle and kind, couldn't hurt a fly. Yet he did 40+ years ago.

danny735 · 25/05/2022 08:37

DontLookBackInAnger1 · 25/05/2022 01:01

I've been watching the LIVE court case. And she isn't being truthful. Do I believe he hasnt at least been verbally abusive? No. But I do think, when violence was involved, she was the aggressor. It's clear from the tape recording that she goaded him and would physically prevent him leaving a situation and at time, admits to being violent and then tries to manipulate/gaslight him into thinking it was something less major ("I didn't hit you Jonny, I pushed you. Come on, be a man...")

The relationship was wrong on many levels and clearly his addictions wouldn't have helped things. But she's a manipulative, nasty piece of work. To deny that just shows you haven't watched the evidence yourself, to me.

100% agree.