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Amber Heard is facing the "most voluminous" social media smear campaign ever

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CaptSkippy · 24/05/2022 23:11

I just came across this link on Github and I suppose it should not be shocked by this, but the sheer numbers do shock me. It's the number of posts, comments, tweets and accounts that have been used to spread misinformation about Amber Heard. Here is the link:

Amber-HeardDisinformationOperations_Bots

Am I being unreasonable to be shocked by this? Why on Earth is this woman targeted with so much hate? Why are MRA's scope-locked on her in particular?

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minutesturntohours · 29/05/2022 16:41

LetitiaLeghorn · 29/05/2022 16:26

Her legal team has been paid at least $6m. I can't feel that much sympathy for them really. They haven't done that great a job but to be fair maybe that because of the case, Amber Heard or just that $6m just isn't enough! How scary is that.

Theyve done a 'bad job' because she is lying!

minutesturntohours · 29/05/2022 16:41

LetitiaLeghorn · 29/05/2022 16:22

@Uptoongirl

Have you read her original article? It does not mention being sexually abused by JD or even mention half the things she is now saying.

She tweeted the article on 19Dec 2018 with the title, "I survived sexual violence". The whole point of the court case is that Depp believed that peoole would infer that she,was talking about him.

All of that info came out when he pursued her and the sun through the courts.

In the UK trial no one knew about the sexual violence complaints she'd made against Depp, as the judge heard them in private and no one was informed. They weren't even reported in the judges findings. We do know now that he dismissed the sexual assault at Hicksville.

Yes.

Like the kate moss incident

So she could say what she liked and then backtrack when challenged

Dangerous woman.

UpToonGirl · 29/05/2022 16:43

@LetitiaLeghorn I know that was the title but if you read the article the only sexual assault she alludes to was by the time she was college age. So way before JD. I absolutely agree if you didn't read the article or the way the media would react would not make JD happy because most people might assume it was him but I can't help thinking if he'd put out a statement, or done a bit of a publicity blitz to say that wasn't him most people would have believed him. Even at the time of their divorce breaking I would say the mood wasn't really against JD but it also wasn't hostile to AH like it is now.

I've seen some of the interviews AH did after the op-ed but before the case and the interviewers weren't overly taken with her. She's a bit awkward and not overly personable. I think most people after a while would have chalked it up to a volatile relationship but it wouldn't have received anywhere near as much attention and it would have been a minor bump in the road for JD.

I watch her testimony and for the most part I'm left cold, I usually get emotional when people recall awful experiences but I wasn't feeling that with her and all the recordings make me feel like she was a nightmare to live with. I just can't stand the SM shit she is taking. It's so one-sided and below the belt. People making fun of her lawyers hair/AH hair and make up/petitions to have her removed from AquaMan. When AM is released I can absolutely see idiots waving placards outside cinemas. I can also see AH and her daughters safety being at risk.

minutesturntohours · 29/05/2022 16:44

The thing that is genuinely worrying about Amber, in the article and the court stuff, is she genuinely believes herself to be some kind of inspirational woman who has fought through years of domestic abuse and should be held up as some sort of champion, while continuing to wail about Johnny not looking at her. Shes absolutely deluded. She implies things then plays the victim, has failed miserably at manipulation, and is now paying the price. Zero sympathy, and shes an insult to victims.

minutesturntohours · 29/05/2022 16:45

UpToonGirl · 29/05/2022 16:43

@LetitiaLeghorn I know that was the title but if you read the article the only sexual assault she alludes to was by the time she was college age. So way before JD. I absolutely agree if you didn't read the article or the way the media would react would not make JD happy because most people might assume it was him but I can't help thinking if he'd put out a statement, or done a bit of a publicity blitz to say that wasn't him most people would have believed him. Even at the time of their divorce breaking I would say the mood wasn't really against JD but it also wasn't hostile to AH like it is now.

I've seen some of the interviews AH did after the op-ed but before the case and the interviewers weren't overly taken with her. She's a bit awkward and not overly personable. I think most people after a while would have chalked it up to a volatile relationship but it wouldn't have received anywhere near as much attention and it would have been a minor bump in the road for JD.

I watch her testimony and for the most part I'm left cold, I usually get emotional when people recall awful experiences but I wasn't feeling that with her and all the recordings make me feel like she was a nightmare to live with. I just can't stand the SM shit she is taking. It's so one-sided and below the belt. People making fun of her lawyers hair/AH hair and make up/petitions to have her removed from AquaMan. When AM is released I can absolutely see idiots waving placards outside cinemas. I can also see AH and her daughters safety being at risk.

The aqua man petitions are a direct result of Johnny being cut from Pirates, which should never have happened.

The sad irony is he will work again and she wont, pre this case it was the other way round.

VladmirsPoutine · 29/05/2022 17:03

This case will have set DV back hundreds of years. I've actually never seen anything like it. Well done everyone.

minutesturntohours · 29/05/2022 17:07

VladmirsPoutine · 29/05/2022 17:03

This case will have set DV back hundreds of years. I've actually never seen anything like it. Well done everyone.

I dont think it has.

I think its proved that relationships can be toxic and abusive, that there doesn't need to be an abuser and a victim, and that women....drum roll...can lie.

If anyone, man or woman, doesn't lie, then there is no reason to worry here. Because why would there be wben Amber has been caught lying yet people still support her? She will win,con a technicality.

Menora · 29/05/2022 17:11

minutesturntohours · 29/05/2022 16:45

The aqua man petitions are a direct result of Johnny being cut from Pirates, which should never have happened.

The sad irony is he will work again and she wont, pre this case it was the other way round.

Disney denied this, they say it was a reboot. He also was not great on set and often late and drunk or high

I’m not sure either of them really have basis of a large claim of $$
she over inflated her career and his was failing for a while

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HRTQueen · 29/05/2022 17:31

I think some of his supporters are acting like love struck teenagers. It’s really not normal for middle aged women to be hanging about for hours just to get a glimpse of their idol. Have you not seen them they are all over the media. They talk about JD like they know him. It’s utterly bizarre how they talk about a 56 year old man. How he wasn’t really in love (why did he marry then) how he regrets leaving Vanessa (wasn’t apparent in those texts) now it’s how his true love is Kate Moss

Porcupineintherough · 29/05/2022 17:40

The thing about social media is you can just switch it off for a few months and not use it and in a few weeks the news has moved on. The twitterati have a very short attention span.

LetitiaLeghorn · 29/05/2022 17:41

UpToonGirl · 29/05/2022 16:43

@LetitiaLeghorn I know that was the title but if you read the article the only sexual assault she alludes to was by the time she was college age. So way before JD. I absolutely agree if you didn't read the article or the way the media would react would not make JD happy because most people might assume it was him but I can't help thinking if he'd put out a statement, or done a bit of a publicity blitz to say that wasn't him most people would have believed him. Even at the time of their divorce breaking I would say the mood wasn't really against JD but it also wasn't hostile to AH like it is now.

I've seen some of the interviews AH did after the op-ed but before the case and the interviewers weren't overly taken with her. She's a bit awkward and not overly personable. I think most people after a while would have chalked it up to a volatile relationship but it wouldn't have received anywhere near as much attention and it would have been a minor bump in the road for JD.

I watch her testimony and for the most part I'm left cold, I usually get emotional when people recall awful experiences but I wasn't feeling that with her and all the recordings make me feel like she was a nightmare to live with. I just can't stand the SM shit she is taking. It's so one-sided and below the belt. People making fun of her lawyers hair/AH hair and make up/petitions to have her removed from AquaMan. When AM is released I can absolutely see idiots waving placards outside cinemas. I can also see AH and her daughters safety being at risk.

@UpToonGirl

In 2018 Harvey Weinstein and Bill Cosby were arrested. People were losing tv shows. The Me Too movement was everywhere. Could Depp really have just put out a release saying, it wasn't me, she was talking about someone else? I think that would just have made it worse and people would have become more outraged. He was already fighting claims of being called a wife-beater, then to claim he never raped her, would just add fuel. Best will in the world, I just don't see how you could spin anything out of that.

Personally I don't believe he lost Pirates because of her, or she was downgraded on Aquaman because of him. He was on drugs and she's not a great actress. But I felt so sad for her when she was holding her head high while Hamada and Richard Marks were dissecting her career. I felt her embarrassment. It really has been a cruel trial. I can only say what I've said before really. They are just human beings and I don't know how we allow so much vile abuse, not reasonable critique, to be aimed at both of them at different times. Or at anyone really. It's beyond what most humans could stand, surely.

RufustheFloralmissingreindeer · 29/05/2022 17:46

My dad has literally just said to me ‘i thought youd be on depps side cos you’re a fan of his’

nope…thats not how it works daddy

minutesturntohours · 29/05/2022 19:15

RufustheFloralmissingreindeer · 29/05/2022 17:46

My dad has literally just said to me ‘i thought youd be on depps side cos you’re a fan of his’

nope…thats not how it works daddy

Quite. Dont get me started on John Barrowman

Bouledeneige · 29/05/2022 19:20

If you watch the trial at the beginning AH is asked why she's here in the courtroom and she replied 'because I wrote an op-ed about Jonny.' Later she changed that. If you listen to the testimony of the ACLU guy who placed the article they were disappointed that JD's name
was taken out of the article by the lawyers. It was clearly intended to be about him. On the stand AH said it was about her experience since JD.

AchatAVendre · 29/05/2022 19:24

Oh goodness, I am sick of the whole circus. What is happening to Amber Heard is appalling but its like the witch trials of the past. You can just imagine the same characters crying out for some random woman who has stood out in some way or offended some local worthy man to be drowned or burned, whipping themselves into a frenzy.

Theres no point in commenting any more, half the posters are consumed with fandom about a formerly hot Hollywood star and the cries of "but she said this" or "she had such and such a facial expression" are excrutiating. Its disturbing to see how many women cannot be neutral in the face of stardom.

minutesturntohours · 29/05/2022 19:25

AchatAVendre · 29/05/2022 19:24

Oh goodness, I am sick of the whole circus. What is happening to Amber Heard is appalling but its like the witch trials of the past. You can just imagine the same characters crying out for some random woman who has stood out in some way or offended some local worthy man to be drowned or burned, whipping themselves into a frenzy.

Theres no point in commenting any more, half the posters are consumed with fandom about a formerly hot Hollywood star and the cries of "but she said this" or "she had such and such a facial expression" are excrutiating. Its disturbing to see how many women cannot be neutral in the face of stardom.

Nothing to do with him being a celebrity.

Why would we be neutral?

Would you be neutral if Amber was winning her case? of course you wouldn't.

FWIW, I don't find Johnny remotely good looking. I don't think most people do.

minutesturntohours · 29/05/2022 19:27

The reason people are now wanting the "circus" to stop and backtracking (including Amber herself who has tried to have it thrown out) is becasue they think Johnny is going to win (which, incidentally, I don't think he will).

I'd be interested to see the posts of posters now in relation to when the trial began.

It's the MN equivalent of stopping playing something because you think you're going to lose.

And when he does lose, which I think he will because of the technicality of defamation, I feel sure the AH supporters will be back in full force.

Meraas · 29/05/2022 19:47

But the difficulty of proving defamation has been present from the start, it’s not a new realisation.

minutesturntohours · 29/05/2022 19:49

He's done what he set out to do though.

MoonKnight · 29/05/2022 20:09

minutesturntohours · 29/05/2022 19:49

He's done what he set out to do though.

Exactly. He’s won by the court of public opinion. It doesn’t matter what the jury decide.

minutesturntohours · 29/05/2022 20:10

Yep.

Which is sad, but it's how the world works.

People cannot say and write what they think without consequence.

AchatAVendre · 29/05/2022 22:17

minutesturntohours · 29/05/2022 19:27

The reason people are now wanting the "circus" to stop and backtracking (including Amber herself who has tried to have it thrown out) is becasue they think Johnny is going to win (which, incidentally, I don't think he will).

I'd be interested to see the posts of posters now in relation to when the trial began.

It's the MN equivalent of stopping playing something because you think you're going to lose.

And when he does lose, which I think he will because of the technicality of defamation, I feel sure the AH supporters will be back in full force.

You're not very accurate in your musings then.

Menora · 29/05/2022 23:23

I think he might lose too. But I am not convinced they won’t both lose

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