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Protections needed to stop monkeypox?

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Like · 23/05/2022 19:58

With news today that 57 cases of money pox have been discovered in the U.K., should we be putting some protections/mitigations in place to slow the spread and make sure the NHS can cope?

I don’t think lockdown would be appropriate at this stage but should the government be implementing things like mask mandates, social distancing, the rule of 6 and bans on indoor socialising and large events?

Surely we’ve learned from covid that it’s important to act early to prevent the need for more restrictions later?

OP posts:
Puzzledandpissedoff · 24/05/2022 11:08

In fact it’s not even in the news today

Probably the media were hoping for a large increase in numbers to really make a thing of; as you suggest, 53 cases is hardly panic-worthy

Come to think of it, what happened to the threads about hepatitis in children? Has that been forgotten about now there's something new, or again were there just not enough numbers to create ongoing online angst?

Oblomov22 · 24/05/2022 11:08

Of you do get it aren't you supposed to / recommended to isolate for 21 days. That's a lot longer than ever was for Covid.

Pyewhacket · 24/05/2022 11:10

It may not be life-threatening but the lesions will leave significant scarring on the face.

AlternativePerspective · 24/05/2022 11:15

Pyewhacket · 24/05/2022 11:10

It may not be life-threatening but the lesions will leave significant scarring on the face.

Well that’s obviously a shame for the .0000000000000000001% of the population who it seems might get it.

If you’re in a car crash you run the risk of being disfigured as well, and that’s a very real possibility, as opposed to monkeypox which you’re highly, highly unlikely to catch in the current climate.

0pheIiaBalls · 24/05/2022 11:34

Suzi888 · 24/05/2022 10:56

I know it’s mild. But it’s going to be disfiguring- that’s a certainty.

I didn’t fear covid, but as a mother I fear monkey pox. I don’t think we should lockdown, but I 100% want a bloody vaccine and I want it now.

I‘m seriously astounded people don’t care about the level of scarring that children and adults will get if they catch it. Chicken pox can be bad, but not usually that bad. MP is next level!

It's not always disfiguring. It can be, but it's not a certainty.

Lots of infectious illnesses can cause disfiguration but we don't impose restrictions for them. Even ones which are far more transmissible than monkeypox.

Personally I'd rather run the (very low) risk of a few scars rather than fucking up livelihoods/MH/education again.

Suzi888 · 24/05/2022 11:34

@AlternativePerspective let’s hope you are right shall we.

0pheIiaBalls · 24/05/2022 11:35

And there is a vaccine/treatments. Demanding you have it now is pointless though because you're not at risk.

Reallyreallyborednow · 24/05/2022 11:37

It may not be life-threatening but the lesions will leave significant scarring on the face

can you point me to your source please? I’ve had a google and can’t find anything saying “may” cause scarring, and similar to chicken pox.

AlternativePerspective · 24/05/2022 11:56

Suzi888 · 24/05/2022 11:34

@AlternativePerspective let’s hope you are right shall we.

Well thus far there is 0 evidence to suggest I’m not. What with us only having 53 cases and all and with it having dropped out of the news already.

But as it stands and I’m not, I don’t really care if I catch it.

In the past 5.5 years I’ve had the flu which attacked my heart and left me in heart failure. Have had 3 cardiac arrests (all in the same day), have had to be shocked back into normal rhythm, had heart surgery to get me well enough to go on the transplant list when my heart fails again, had pneumonia 3 times, shielded for nearly a year and caught COVID anyway but fortunately I had it relatively mildly having been vaccinated.

Frankly a bit of scarring, should it even happen, and actually there is very little evidence to suggest that either, isn’t something which concerns me in the slightest.

But crack on and panic if it makes you feel better. But somehow I don’t imagine it does.

AlternativePerspective · 24/05/2022 12:03

Also, on this site there are posters whose husbands, children, parents have died from cancer, COVID, heart failure, stroke, and many other conditions.

Others who have given birth to severely disabled children.

Frankly panicking about a bit of scarring based on some obscure google reference against the backdrop of 53 cases out of 65 million people is insulting to those people who have real problems.

0pheIiaBalls · 24/05/2022 12:13

AlternativePerspective · 24/05/2022 12:03

Also, on this site there are posters whose husbands, children, parents have died from cancer, COVID, heart failure, stroke, and many other conditions.

Others who have given birth to severely disabled children.

Frankly panicking about a bit of scarring based on some obscure google reference against the backdrop of 53 cases out of 65 million people is insulting to those people who have real problems.

This.

The slight possibility of a bit of scarring pales into insignificance when compared to many other conditions. And perhaps we shouldn't be so fearful of 'disfigurement' anyway.

UseOfWeapons · 24/05/2022 12:31

Hahaha, no.

daisy46 · 24/05/2022 12:35

🙄Just stop. 🙄

SexyLittleNosferatu · 24/05/2022 12:41

AlternativePerspective · 24/05/2022 12:03

Also, on this site there are posters whose husbands, children, parents have died from cancer, COVID, heart failure, stroke, and many other conditions.

Others who have given birth to severely disabled children.

Frankly panicking about a bit of scarring based on some obscure google reference against the backdrop of 53 cases out of 65 million people is insulting to those people who have real problems.

Very well said.

Hadjab · 24/05/2022 12:42

Like · 23/05/2022 20:42

We know that monkey pox spreads through close contact so surely social distancing would help prevent people being close together?

No one is calling for full lockdown but surely putting in a few light touch mitigations and asking people to limit indoor mixing and close contact would help?

Please stop.

ThettaReddast · 24/05/2022 12:47

It’s not necessary or appropriate at this stage, but even if it were this government has lost all authority when it comes to introducing restrictions so couldn’t/wouldn’t be listened to. Not an issue with monkey pox but worrying if we do find ourselves in need of public health restrictions in the future.

HoppingPavlova · 24/05/2022 12:52

We know that monkey pox spreads through close contact so surely social distancing would help prevent people being close together?

Realistically though, how many situations are there where you are rubbing yourself up against others? That’s what’s needed with this.

Sure, if you can’t back away from rubbing yourself against others or believe they may rub themselves against you (may be relevant in childcare for example), then put yourself in lockdown. Don’t expect others who can interact with others without such carry on to join you though.

Interestingly, you started from a position of mandatory masks and have now moved on to social distancing but you still don’t seem to have a great grasp of the mode of transmission with this one.

milkyaqua · 24/05/2022 14:56

Realistically though, how many situations are there where you are rubbing yourself up against others? That’s what’s needed with this.

It is also spread by coughing and sneezing. Or you could be on a plane, or on public transport next to an infected person. No rubbing required.

HesterShaw1 · 24/05/2022 15:30

milkyaqua · 24/05/2022 14:56

Realistically though, how many situations are there where you are rubbing yourself up against others? That’s what’s needed with this.

It is also spread by coughing and sneezing. Or you could be on a plane, or on public transport next to an infected person. No rubbing required.

No, I still don't think further "protections" (aka restrictions) are warranted. Not even to save the NHS. It's had enough saving the last few years.

milkyaqua · 24/05/2022 15:56

HesterShaw1 · 24/05/2022 15:30

No, I still don't think further "protections" (aka restrictions) are warranted. Not even to save the NHS. It's had enough saving the last few years.

Have you quoted the wrong person by mistake? I've said nothing about further protections... The simplest would be wearing a mask, though.

Beautifulmonster87 · 24/05/2022 15:59

Like · 23/05/2022 19:58

With news today that 57 cases of money pox have been discovered in the U.K., should we be putting some protections/mitigations in place to slow the spread and make sure the NHS can cope?

I don’t think lockdown would be appropriate at this stage but should the government be implementing things like mask mandates, social distancing, the rule of 6 and bans on indoor socialising and large events?

Surely we’ve learned from covid that it’s important to act early to prevent the need for more restrictions later?

This is a joke right? We can’t have bloody lock downs and masks etc every time there is a virus ffs!

RoonilWazlibb · 24/05/2022 16:03

Be right back. I've got toilet roll to buy

PinkSparklyPussyCat · 24/05/2022 16:28

I knew my bargain pack of 32 Cushelle would come in handy!

HesterShaw1 · 24/05/2022 16:38

milkyaqua · 24/05/2022 15:56

Have you quoted the wrong person by mistake? I've said nothing about further protections... The simplest would be wearing a mask, though.

If you'd like to, go ahead. It would probably be more effective against larger droplets than against Covid aerosols.

I did mean to quote you

mmmmmmghturep · 24/05/2022 17:40

Wow the nudge unit are busy.

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