Page 4 | AIBU to think that the Met Police have "Saved" Boris Johnson?

BorisisaLune · 23/05/2022 19:20

Clavinova · 23/05/2022 19:12

We couldn't see our Nan, nor attend her funeral in November '20

Up to 30 people could attend funerals in England in November 2020.

Whats your point? Do you suppose less than 30 wanted to attend?

Might be more salient to point out to you that social gatherings indoors were banned in November 20.... i know this because night after night BJ et el came out and told us.

Looks like he and Whitty were lying about the risks and it was all a jolly jape

ilovesooty · 23/05/2022 19:22

Bretonbear · 23/05/2022 18:58

People who care, care. People with empathy care, people with morals care. Decent people care.

People with some kind of moral compass care. People who don't see any problem with the PM lying to the people and to Parliament don't care.

BorisisaLune · 23/05/2022 19:24

@Clavinova He lied, you know it, i know it and BJ knows it.

Fuck my Dog knows it!

You popping up under orders from Tory HQ don't change that.

FrecklesMalone · 23/05/2022 19:26

sashagabadon · 23/05/2022 15:28

I can’t believe people are still going on about this. Fines were issued, that’s the punishment. So many of the grrr Boris types have driven themselves insane over this. Some previously sensible types have lost all perspective and need to get off Twitter imo!

It's lying in parliament that is so fucking wrong.

ilovesooty · 23/05/2022 19:28

Of course it's very wrong - but some people will contort themselves into claiming he didn't lie, or simply not care that he did.

VladmirsPoutine · 23/05/2022 19:30

I'm really enjoying people earnestly shocked at the conduct of the police. In my honest opinion there is not a single such thing as a good police officer. Not even one.

ssd · 23/05/2022 19:31

@Clavinova , you can always be relied on to pop up on threads with your lengthy posts full of copy and paste, designed to close the thread down.

Always the same....

TooBigForMyBoots · 23/05/2022 19:33

I care. My best friend's dad died alone,of Covid. There were more people at those parties than were allowed into the chapel for his funeral.😡😡😡

But of course the Tory faithful don't care. They don't give a fuck that they voted in a corrupt, lying, sleazy cunt to head their corrupt, lying, sleazy party. Nor do they give a shiny shit about the incompetent, corrupt police force that turned a blind eye. One rule for them, another for the rest of us.

If there is any silver lining to this, it's that public trust and compliance with the law has plummeted. Just as well considering many will have to shoplift in order to eat.

lemmein · 23/05/2022 19:42

Teapot55 · 23/05/2022 19:07

If he thought there was a genuine risk, he wouldn't have had the party.

We've been stitched up by falling for the fear-mongering and complying like sheep.

Two of the parties were within the first month of their son being born - you'd think with a deadly pandemic you'd be a little more cautious with your PFB (her not him, for him it's more like P50thB!) and not have unnecessary gatherings.

A timeline of bullshit:

5th April - Bojo hospitalised

6th April Bojo sent to ICU

12th April - discharged from hospital

29th April - Wilfred born

15th May - garden party attended by Carrie and Dominic Cummings.

20th May - 100 people invited to No 10 for drinks.

Around the same time Boris was hospitalised Cummings and his wife contracted covid (apparently!) and their 4 year old son was taken to hospital with covid symptoms. With everyone in your inner circle allegedly dropping like flies to this killer disease would you be arranging parties? If your boss had experienced such a traumatic time would you be arranging social gatherings at his house? 🤔

eatingapie · 23/05/2022 19:44

Clavinova · 23/05/2022 19:18

BJ was also asked directly if there was a party on the 13th November and he said NO.

Full Fact

What did Mr Johnson actually say on 8 December?

On 8 December 2021, during Prime Minister’s Questions, Ms West asked Mr Johnson: “Will the Prime Minister tell the House whether there was a party in Downing Street on 13 November?”
Mr Johnson replied: “No, but I am sure that whatever happened, the guidance was followed and the rules were followed at all times.”

While some people appear to have taken Mr Johnson’s “no” as a denial that a party was held on 13 November, it’s not clear from his response that that was the case. The way that Ms West’s question was asked could mean that Mr Johnson was instead declining to “tell the House whether there was a party”.

Furthermore, Ms West asked Mr Johnson specifically about a “party”. The report collated by Ms Gray describes all the events she investigated as “gatherings”, including the two listed on 13 November—so even if Mr Johnson had said on 8 December that there was no party, that would not necessarily have been contradicted by Ms Gray’s findings.

fullfact.org/news/boris-johnson-downing-street-party-13-november-2020/

Ah the old ‘is it a gathering or is it a party’ question… the preoccupation of teenagers inviting friends round the land over. What DO you wear to a ‘gathering’? So hard to know when you’re 14. Hopefully Sue Gray will be able to tell all.

jgw1 · 23/05/2022 19:46

SueGray54321 · 23/05/2022 14:52

Just at the very moment when the Sue Gray report on Partygate was about to be released, the police suddenly decided to investigate partying at Downing Street themselves. This was after months of saying they don't investigate historic breaches of lockdown rules. Can't help thinking that they were persuaded to do this to stop the Sue Gray report being released.

The Met then proceed to spend months investigating Partygate offences, thus taking the heat out of the original fury about revelations about lockdown breaches. No doubt this was entirely their intention.

The sum total of the police investigation was one £50 fine for the Prime Minister, for one of the more minor breaches of lockdown rules. Begs the question why he was not fined for any of the other events he attended?

It just smacks of a stitch up, doesn't it?

YABU

The Met's creation of Schrodinger's parties where some attendees get fined, but lo Boris does not, has just kept this in the news for longer and will have made people angrier.

It might buy Boris a few months longer from the useful idiots in his parliamentary party, but that just means the general public are even less likely to vote Tory any time soon.

Clavinova · 23/05/2022 19:47

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jgw1 · 23/05/2022 19:48

@Clavinova ITV news are leading with a picture that looks a lot to me like any regular essential work meeting, would you agree?

Kendodd · 23/05/2022 19:57

TulipsGarden · 23/05/2022 15:04

Yes, of course it is. With Boris Johnson comes institutional corruption.

Just about sums Johnson up.
I actually think the lying is a bigger issue and Johnson lies about everything. This was obvious long before he was voted into No 10 by the public. People who voted for him either didn't care about the lying and corruption or were stupid enough to STILL believe what he says, either way it's not a great lookforf the British electorate.

Clavinova · 23/05/2022 19:57

15th May - garden party attended by Carrie and Dominic Cummings

That was the 'cheese and wine' meeting not investigated by the police.

20th May - 100 people invited to No 10 for drinks

Far fewer than 100 people attended - 30/40?

Daily Mail 20 May 2020
'It's madness, like everyone's forgotten about coronavirus!' Traffic wardens run out of tickets as tens of thousands of locked-down Brits cram onto packed beaches all over the country as temperatures soar to 82F on hottest day of the year.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8339235/Britain-hits-beach-bask-82F-sunshine-today-hottest-day-year-far.html

L1ttledrummergirl · 23/05/2022 19:58

If you lie to the police while in receipt of a solicitors advise, I believe that's perverting the course of justice. Which carries a potential custodian sentence.

If the met failed to investigated properly they are either inept and it should be relooked at, or they are corrupt.

If the photographs are real then it stinks. Which is it?

jgw1 · 23/05/2022 19:59

Clavinova · 23/05/2022 19:57

15th May - garden party attended by Carrie and Dominic Cummings

That was the 'cheese and wine' meeting not investigated by the police.

20th May - 100 people invited to No 10 for drinks

Far fewer than 100 people attended - 30/40?

Daily Mail 20 May 2020
'It's madness, like everyone's forgotten about coronavirus!' Traffic wardens run out of tickets as tens of thousands of locked-down Brits cram onto packed beaches all over the country as temperatures soar to 82F on hottest day of the year.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8339235/Britain-hits-beach-bask-82F-sunshine-today-hottest-day-year-far.html

@Clavinova Do you agree with me that the picture that ITV are showing of Boris Johnson in Number 10 looks like just like any other essential work meeting?

jgw1 · 23/05/2022 20:00

@Clavinova did you know that Keir once had a beer and owns a field? You could try that one instead if the current one doesn't seem to be working.

KeepYaHeadUp · 23/05/2022 20:00

Dillydollydingdong · 23/05/2022 15:11

What about Starmer? " No we didn't have a party", even though food for 40 people was delivered and KS was filmed swigging beer out of a bottle. "No, Angela Rayner wasn't there", even though they had to admit later than she was! Unmissable with her red hair and gobby mouth. Was KS suddenly blind and deaf that night? No, of course not. He thought he could get away with lying. Will he resign if he's fined? No, of course not. He'll find some excuse. He's as bad as Boris.

🥱 🥱 🥱

AmbushedByCake1 · 23/05/2022 20:00

Everyone I know in real life, not mumsnet, is appalled by the behaviour of the this lying excuse for a PM who wouldn't know the truth if he tripped over it.

The amount of Tory shills that turn up on these threads to claim that no one cares never ceases to amaze me. They must really be desperate.

KeepYaHeadUp · 23/05/2022 20:01

Lavenderlast · 23/05/2022 15:22

Yep. Plus at the time these offences occurred, the police were handing out fines to members of the public of £10,000 and telling us all that’s what you get if you’re naughty. So who organises the events at Downing St, and why have the fines only been £50?!

The police have been complicit in this since the beginning. They literally stood on Boris’ doorstep throughout lockdown listening to the party music inside and watching the drunk people come and go eithout lifting a finger to stop it. It is corruption.

We see you, Downing Street and the Met.

We see you.

This.

And the shit policing of the Sarah Everard vigil.

jgw1 · 23/05/2022 20:02

AmbushedByCake1 · 23/05/2022 20:00

Everyone I know in real life, not mumsnet, is appalled by the behaviour of the this lying excuse for a PM who wouldn't know the truth if he tripped over it.

The amount of Tory shills that turn up on these threads to claim that no one cares never ceases to amaze me. They must really be desperate.

I think that this is part of Downing Street's problem. They think that very few people care and that as long as they keep going look a squirrel and have a few useful idiots on SM doing the same people will forget.

Kendodd · 23/05/2022 20:02

BorisisaLune · 23/05/2022 19:24

@Clavinova He lied, you know it, i know it and BJ knows it.

Fuck my Dog knows it!

You popping up under orders from Tory HQ don't change that.

Actually I don't think Clavinova does know it. I genuinely believe that she believes everything Johnson says and that he doesn't lie.

lemmein · 23/05/2022 20:02

Far fewer than 100 people attended - 30/40?

Imagine thinking that was a legitimate response? 'Oh only 30-40 people attended during lockdown' 😂

100 invites were sent out - the fact that 60-70 people declined is not the big win you think it is!

Wear your blue rosette with pride, you've clearly earned it 🤣

AmbushedByCake1 · 23/05/2022 20:04

And Clavinova, I hope Tory HQ pay you well.

If you actually do this for free you may want to take some self reflection upon what kind of person you are, and what you are trying to uphold.