AIBU to think that the Met Police have "Saved" Boris Johnson?

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Just at the very moment when the Sue Gray report on Partygate was about to be released, the police suddenly decided to investigate partying at Downing Street themselves. This was after months of saying they don't investigate historic breaches of lockdown rules. Can't help thinking that they were persuaded to do this to stop the Sue Gray report being released.

The Met then proceed to spend months investigating Partygate offences, thus taking the heat out of the original fury about revelations about lockdown breaches. No doubt this was entirely their intention.

The sum total of the police investigation was one £50 fine for the Prime Minister, for one of the more minor breaches of lockdown rules. Begs the question why he was not fined for any of the other events he attended?

It just smacks of a stitch up, doesn't it?

How much would it cost to reinstate the cut in Universal credit that one of the parties voted in favour of because they want to exacerbate the Cost of Greed crisis, whilst the other, which apparently has no polices voted against?

I'll give you a clue, it is a similar amount to that which would be raised by a windfall tax.

Wine time Fridays that Johnson did not stop, but partook of.

twitter.com/BBCPolitics/status/1529072707299684353?s=20&t=KTG1yNbJdbat6a_Y6BHT4w

These people had been working extremely hard by 4pm for many hours since their long lunchbreak that ended at about 2.30pm, so they were in need of a break.

Hard to deny this was an ingrained culture at downing st. But I'm sure the boris bots will be along soon to say labour's just as bad.

The fact of the matter is that Boris by his hard work saved the NHS which was on the brink of collapse due to previous governments which he supported failing to fund it sensibly and plan for anything.

Also don't forget the vaccine roll out that would not have happened without Boris, and if we had still have been members of the EU Boris may not have been able to have had a photo opportunity with the first person in Europe to be vaccinated. That photo op was very important, never mind that after that he lost interest in vaccines.

May I try.

Remember that Michael Foot might have lied about being a Soviet agent.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6172299/Michael-Foot-went-grave-protesting-innocence.html

Yeah, Labour had a one off working dinner with a BEER. And "Sharon" Rayner was at the same place earlier in the day, campaigning. Outrageous. How dare any Labour politician have the gall to criticise Our Beloved PM, the much revered 🛒?

(An actual shopping trolley would make a better PM).

And what about Kinnock falling in the sea. AND he had the temerity to be Welsh. The cheek of it. Johnson is a saint by comparison.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-politics-31993510

And his son has a foreign wife. Shocking.

What I would really like to know, is how many bottles of wine one can fit into the shopping trolley before it starts going straight and stops crashing into things.

My Tory-voting in-laws are disgusted that this shower were having a piss-up in their office on the very day that most of their large extended family were unable to attend the funeral of their brother, my partner, because we were restricted to 30 people max. They are even more disgusted that we couldn't have a wake. But worst of it all is that because they were already in a "bubble" with other people, their poor mum had to grieve for her son all alone for weeks on end.

They are so disgusted that they've vowed never to vote Tory again while the fat bloviator is in charge.

Few people voted FOR Johnson. They voted AGAINST Corbyn.

Wrong. Our electoral system is such that you vote for someone. You can vote for any different candidate. You can spoil your vote. You can just not bother to vote. What you cannot do is vote against anyone.

Labour have milked Partygate for all it is worth but most voters are sick to the back teeth of Labour and the BBC banging on about it.

Many, if not most of the citizens of the UK care very much indeed. They suffered bereavement, illness, loneliness, devastating mental health, abuse, stress and pain. And they had to do it in isolation because of the laws passed by this Tory government.

They care because they deserve a government they can trust. And a police service that they trust. Instead of this bunch of corrupt, immoral, liars who don't give a shit about anyone but themselves and their rich and powerful friends.

I recognise that there's a distinction between being "offended" and finding something offensive @Clavinova .

Did you feel that his references to "tank-topped bumboys" or "picanninies with watermelon smiles" were offensive, or women wearing burqas looking like letter boxes were offensive?

LakieLady
Did you feel that his references to...were offensive

I found one of those references very offensive - I have already alluded to it. As far as I am aware, Boris Johnson has not repeated the reference in 24 years and his stance towards gay rights was much more liberal when he became an MP - we have probably discussed this already;

Defying the Conservative leadership at the time, Johnson voted in 2003 to abolish Section 28, which banned the “promotion” of homosexuality in schools, and voted in 2004 to permit civil partnerships for same-sex couples. Alongside George Osborne and John Bercow, Johnson was one of just a handful of Tory MPs who were willing to back the Labour government’s LGBT+ reforms.

www.pinknews.co.uk/2019/06/18/boris-johnson-lgbt-rights-record-anti-gay-slurs-liberal-stance/

What I am amazed at is the number of self-righteous Labour/Lib Dem MPS, left wing media hosts and social media users who repeat the reference 24 years later to score political points - seemingly oblivious to the young men they pretend to be concerned out.

The other references (two of them 20 years old) I find regrettable but not offensive. Boris Johnson has apologised for all three - despite Angela Rayner claiming he had not. Rayner's (false) 'get out of jail free card' for not apologising herself - until she was forced to after the tragic death of Sir David Amess.

Alexandra2001
We don't know the exact figure any windfall tax would raise, high fuel costs & profits may be here for several more years
£400 to those on benefits/working benefits
£200 for all families - not repayable

Labour are saying approximately £3 billion for the windfall tax, but it would be a one-off tax - it won't be repeated the following year;
BBC Opposition parties are calling for a one-off tax after BP and Shell both reported big increases in profits as oil and gas prices surge around the world.

There are roughly 28 million households in the UK (including those on benefits) - a share of £3 billion is only £107 per household.

jgw1
How much would it cost to reinstate the cut in Universal credit
I'll give you a clue, it is a similar amount to that which would be raised by a windfall tax.

£6 billion a year stated here;

leftfootforward.org/2022/01/government-pressed-to-reinstate-20-universal-credit-uplift/

Labour need to let this go. The people that care about it are already dyed in the wool Labour voters, and to everyone else it just comes across as hypocritical as Labour weren't following all the rules either. There are actual problems in the country at the moment, why aren't Labour concentrating on things that matter?

Oh look, clavs pal has joined in

Maybe if Labour had spent more time announcing their policies I'd be better informed

Where do you think the windfall tax idea came from? The mainstream media don’t cover Labour policies, blame them. Here are some for you.

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/apr/12/labour-winning-policies-party-keir-starmer-public

The problem with increasing benefits is that when it's time to cut them again, the left start howling at the moon about how "evil" the government is. The rise in Universal Credit was explicitly stated to be only temporary when it happened during Covid. And now it's being portrayed as an "evil cut". If Benefits were increased to £1 million a week and then cut to £999999 a week the left would be screaming blue murder about that as well. I'd be more impressed if they were making plans to get everyone into work that paid well enough that there was no need for benefits. "Labour" used to mean work, people used to march protesting for the right to work and protesting against unemployment. I don't know what happened.

If that’s true, how to you explain the downturn in support for the Conservatives in opinion polling that commenced around the time ‘Partygate’ first became news, and from which they’re yet to recover?

Obviously a large majority of Conservative voters haven’t indicated a change in their voting preference, but the number who have could absolutely be electorally significant. I don’t see why Labour should back away from the topic.

It's disgusting - what has happened to this country in the last 5 years? Boris' cabinet have been guilty of a raft of offences that in past times would have resulted in him resigning. Yes he seems to think he can just lie his way out of anything.

His pathetic sycophantic yes-men are making fools out of themselves defending him every day on TV. He would throw any of them under a bus in a heartbeat to save himself.

And now junior cabinet office staff are coming out to say they were gobsmacked to hear PM deny knowledge of parties when he attended several and was very much aware of the culture.

Labour were following the rules! You've swallowed the bullshit that the Daily Mail feeds you. Let me explain it to you.

The 'Rules' or as it is also known 'the LAW' was that it was illegal to hold a gathering of more than two people without a reasonable excuse. Election campaigning was specifically listed as exempt from this law.

All this talk of cake, or parties, or beer, or curry is completely misleading. It wasn't illegal to have cake, beer, wine or curry. And Johnson can legitimately claim that none of the events were 'parties'.

But what his events were, with abundant evidence, were gatherings of more than two people without a reasonable excuse.

Was there a good reason for all of those people to gather at any of those events? No. Was there a good reason to send out an invite to dozens of people to invite them to come to Downing St? No. Was there good reason for Boris, his wife, their child, their interior designer to attend those gatherings? No.

I'll remind you that the covid laws were there to prevent the spread of covid. The clue is in the name. As we were all painfully aware - covid spread through mixing with people. Hence mixing with people was banned. But Johnson held the rest of us in such utter contempt that he didn't take his own laws seriously. He doesn't care about you, or me, or any of us.

I hope this clears it up for you.

It is NOT about beer, or curry, or wine, or cake.

You see people going on and on about homelessness and rising costs on the news. They repeatedly say that, that matters more than party gate. They fail to critically understand that it’s the same party fucking the country over on both counts. We need to invest far more in education.

We need more integrity in politics… probably in the country as a whole actually. It’s revolting what’s happening. The Met is a disgrace.

I’m still very angry about it all.

Our latest representative of the Nasty party @Florenz says you need to let it go, because it is damaging Big Dog to keep going on about his lies.

Please be good, doff your cap and let it go.

What a very realistic scenario you set out. AND you include a subtle touch of benefit bashing. Nice job.

"Conservative" used to mean respect for the rule of law. I wonder what happened.

Ah! I know what happened! The Tories elected a petty criminal as leader.