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AIBU to think that the Met Police have "Saved" Boris Johnson?

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SueGray54321 · 23/05/2022 14:52

Just at the very moment when the Sue Gray report on Partygate was about to be released, the police suddenly decided to investigate partying at Downing Street themselves. This was after months of saying they don't investigate historic breaches of lockdown rules. Can't help thinking that they were persuaded to do this to stop the Sue Gray report being released.

The Met then proceed to spend months investigating Partygate offences, thus taking the heat out of the original fury about revelations about lockdown breaches. No doubt this was entirely their intention.

The sum total of the police investigation was one £50 fine for the Prime Minister, for one of the more minor breaches of lockdown rules. Begs the question why he was not fined for any of the other events he attended?

It just smacks of a stitch up, doesn't it?

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HalfwomanHalfcookie · 25/05/2022 07:13

Florenz · 24/05/2022 21:54

The problem with increasing benefits is that when it's time to cut them again, the left start howling at the moon about how "evil" the government is. The rise in Universal Credit was explicitly stated to be only temporary when it happened during Covid. And now it's being portrayed as an "evil cut". If Benefits were increased to £1 million a week and then cut to £999999 a week the left would be screaming blue murder about that as well. I'd be more impressed if they were making plans to get everyone into work that paid well enough that there was no need for benefits. "Labour" used to mean work, people used to march protesting for the right to work and protesting against unemployment. I don't know what happened.

The problem is Florenz, there are many many jobs that don't pay enough for people not to need a benefits top up.
Do you think these jobs should pay more or that the ones doing these jobs should find one that does? If the latter, who will do the low paid jobs then?
It's not so simple as you seem to think.

Knittingchamp · 25/05/2022 07:21

I think the Met TRIED to save him but have now gotten dragged into the shit themselves after it took the press only about 5 minutes to find photos and incriminating evidence. So clearly they are corrupt just as he is. Hopefully that means they are all held accountable.

For anyone saying who cares anymore, there's been a lot of campaigns by Tory spin to make you give up,.give in, or feel stupid for caring. You absolutely should care because we're facing a historic recession with energy costs, Brexit fallout, and cost of living crises that we've never experienced before. We need socially oriented politicians who CARE in charge of resources at this moment, not Johnson and Rees Mogg who feel that we are all stupid fools, who can't be arsed to do a good job, who despise poor people, who send refugees to Rwanda, and who give away billions on crooked contracts.

Alexandra2001 · 25/05/2022 07:23

@Florenz Since Thatcher, the right to strike for higher wages has got harder and harder to do, doubtless supported by you.
Austerity has led to pay freezes over the last 12 years and greater use of in work benefit support.

Moving to the private rental sector for social housing means higher rents, poor quality, more housing benefits and less spending power.

Unfortunately the 'right has presided over ensuring work doesn't pay.

jgw1 · 25/05/2022 07:24

Florenz · 24/05/2022 21:46

Labour need to let this go. The people that care about it are already dyed in the wool Labour voters, and to everyone else it just comes across as hypocritical as Labour weren't following all the rules either. There are actual problems in the country at the moment, why aren't Labour concentrating on things that matter?

@Florenz Lets work on your basis that your assertion that it is only dyed in the wool Labour voters who care about the rule of law. (Since I am neither dyed in the wool or a regular Labour voters I might disagree, but we shall leave that).

How do you explain that 68% of the population think Boris Johnson is doing badly as Prime Minister?

www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1611950/Boris-Johnson-approval-rating-Keir-Starmer-evg

If it is not partygate, (which actually is just a symptom of how little Boris cares about the UK and the general public) what is leading to this unpopularity?

jgw1 · 25/05/2022 07:27

Alexandra2001 · 25/05/2022 07:23

@Florenz Since Thatcher, the right to strike for higher wages has got harder and harder to do, doubtless supported by you.
Austerity has led to pay freezes over the last 12 years and greater use of in work benefit support.

Moving to the private rental sector for social housing means higher rents, poor quality, more housing benefits and less spending power.

Unfortunately the 'right has presided over ensuring work doesn't pay.

@Alexandra2001 I have to disagree with you. The right has presided over a highly successful time where their greedy mates have got richer, which is the main aim of the current Conservative party. If other people are not clever enough to be greedy and selfish and exploit others like they do, well that is their fault.

A caller to Any Answers very intelligently I thought said that this is not a Cost of Living crisis, it is a Cost of Greed crisis.

ClaudineClare · 25/05/2022 09:06

For anyone saying who cares anymore, there's been a lot of campaigns by Tory spin to make you give up,.give in, or feel stupid for caring. You absolutely should care because we're facing a historic recession with energy costs, Brexit fallout, and cost of living crises that we've never experienced before. We need socially oriented politicians who CARE in charge of resources at this moment, not Johnson and Rees Mogg who feel that we are all stupid fools, who can't be arsed to do a good job, who despise poor people, who send refugees to Rwanda, and who give away billions on crooked contracts

Great post.

L1ttledrummergirl · 25/05/2022 10:06

One of the biggest problems is that they seem to think that they are cleverer than the general public so they judge us by there own intelligence.

Unfortunately they are actually as thick as pig shit so we ain't buying what they're pedalling.

L1ttledrummergirl · 25/05/2022 10:07

Their

jgw1 · 26/05/2022 18:13

@Florenz Does this poll suggest that most of the public are bored of partygate?

twitter.com/RedfieldWilton/status/1529857407333146624?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

Kendodd · 26/05/2022 21:50

Can you imagine how bad it would have been if they hadn't had covid limiting their partying.

ssd · 26/05/2022 22:28

Kendodd · 26/05/2022 21:50

Can you imagine how bad it would have been if they hadn't had covid limiting their partying.

I know. If they are like that during a lockdown what the hell are they like now? No wonder they are making such a hash of everything, they must be permanently hung over and knackered.
I still can't believe people voted for them.

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