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7 days to leave the family home…

246 replies

Fearless5 · 22/05/2022 22:28

Firstly apologies for the length of this post, I’ve never told anyone about any of this and now I’ve written it… it’s a lot!

So first, some background… I’ve been married for 15 years and we have 4 children together aged 15, 9, 7 and 2.
DH had an awful childhood and has suspected adhd and autism, got together young, had a baby quickly and basically stuck it out, don’t get me wrong we have had good times scattered in it I’m ashamed to say I’ve made many excuses and allowed myself to be treated very poorly over the years, I’ve never told a soul what my real life is like….

Our middle two children were diagnosed with adhd and autism a few years ago now and are half at home, home schooled by myself and half in a mainstream school. I suspect my youngest is also on the spectrum and although they’re all amazing, nobody knows I do EVERYTHING alone. My DH wouldn’t even know where their clothes were. He flounces out of the house whenever he wants, to see friends, to go to the gym. Occasionally to work…. Me? I would have to ‘ask’ weeks in advance if he would look after his own children, then he would claim I didn’t ask and I would worry that he would loose his temper. So simply, wherever I am, they are. My mum is great and will have them but she often questions why my DH hasn’t had them… I lie and say he’s in work. I’m too embarrassed to tell the truth. I worked hard to get a degree and work part time (from home) ironically as I counsellor, I feel like a fraud when my life is one massive ball of anxiety and lies... my friends and family would swear I was happy, the only thing that gives me joy is my children.
I pay for EVERYTHING alone, any money he gets, he keeps and buys ridiculous things like a £600 remote control car, so many clothes… whilst I walk around in the same clothes I’ve had for years and struggle with bills.

Nobody knows I’ve had years of walking on egg shells and I’m ashamed to say so have my children. His temper, attitude, name calling (to me) and general disinterest in our children has recently been eating me up, I feel deep resentment and can’t get my head around why he can’t see how amazing they are. I hear them trying to talk to him, desperately trying to gain a connection, he’s looking at his phone barely even glancing up. It hurts me so much. I feel I’ve let him get away with so much due to his past and his own issues but where do I draw the line? They are the most precious gift and I put every ounce of my being into trying to be mum and dad, repair the damage he’s done in anger and I’m fed up. Countless meetings and appointments I’ve done alone, we go out daily and he hasn’t come out with us for literally years. We go to theme parks, the beach, the zoo… everywhere… without him. The kids are used to it now but I always feel embarrassed when people ask where he is, I just lie.
I go on holiday tomorrow (only 3 hours away to a lodge) and he’s decided last week he’s not coming! He has a few days of work he just can’t possibly get out of… My child mentioned this to my mum
today and she was so shocked and perplexed (she has no idea we aren’t the perfect team) It makes no difference to me because I do it all alone anyway. In fact I’m looking forward to not being on edge all the time, worried about what mood he’s in or his reaction to the slightest thing. Why do I stay? The truth is, sometimes he can be amazing, he listens and understands and I’m tricked into thinking all will be ok. The next day, BAM. Ignored and left to struggle alone, all the promises already broken.

So… Today my disabled child who is 7 was arguing with their sibling who is 15, just a bit of winding up as siblings do. Well DH lost it. He was shouting so much he lost his voice, I was out packing my car for tomorrow and heard shouting, when I rushed in my 7 year old was being screamed at to wipe up a drink he had accidentally knocked over when leaving the room after being separated from his sibling, my DS calmly said he was getting kitchen roll to clean it but his dad just kept shouting louder and saying ‘clean it now!!!!’ Creating more and more anxiety my sweet son was confused and upset and I stepped in and said ‘what is happening? You need to step out of this situation, you’ve lost control’
Then my son shouted ‘I’m doing it now!’ In pure frustration and DH grabbed him by the neck off the t shirt, pushed him back and shouted whilst pointing in his face not to be cheeky or he would take him upstairs and ‘give him a good hiding’….
I am completely against hitting children and have NEVER done this, DH has many years ago having been hit himself as a child, but thankfully saw the error of his ways after I persuaded him seek psychological help (not by me!) to deal with his own anger, which leads to him taking it out on a child.
Anyway at this point I guided my poor son to his room to safety and calmly (but seething inside) told my DH that I’m going away for one week with the children and when I get back, I don’t want him in the house. I am absolutely disgusted that he could do this to our poor defenceless child and no matter how many years, children and history we have, I’m no longer going to make excuses for this behaviour.

He said I’m a heartless scumbag for giving him just a week, and he’s going to tell everyone so. I said I wonder what everyone will say when they find out why… our marriage has been dead for years, no intimacy, just pure resentment. I own the house, bought just before we met with inheritance money. It’s in my name only but it’s always been our home. He has no money or family to rely on and I’ve said in the past I would help him to get a place, that still stands. I just feel like I can’t have him around the children, who are now even more anxious around him than ever. I never once said he needs to take his things etc, we just need him physically gone. I used to worry myself sick about what would happen to him if he wasn’t at home but I now realise I have four children to care for, he is not one of them.

He has since walked out of the house without a word, who knows when or if he will return?! I haven’t contacted him and certainly won’t… I couldn’t care less at this point…

Am I being unreasonable?!!

OP posts:
saraclara · 22/05/2022 22:32

Nor remotely unreasonable.

Lilmissm · 22/05/2022 22:36

I’m sorry you are having to deal with this. Honestly reading it sounds a lot like my situ. I feel the exact same way and somehow any disagreements seem to roll around to being my fault. That sort of aggression around the kids would be a dealbreaker for me too. Hope things get resolved for you in some sense

HalfShrunkMoreToGo · 22/05/2022 22:39

If he's walked out can you change the locks now?

Send him a message or email letting him know that youre ok with Him arranging a time to collect a bag of stuff to keep him going or that you'll drop it somewhere for him but that he's not welcome back to stay. That you'll hold onto his belongings for a maximum of 3 months so he has time to find a more long term solution and that you'll be reasonable in allowing him visitation with the kids either at your house or at a family members. That you have concerns about his recent behaviour that mean you would prefer at least with the youngest 3 that the visits take place somewhere that you or a family member you trust can be present.

SgurrNaCìche · 22/05/2022 22:40

You need to contact a solicitor asap and start talking to family and friends about why you're leaving him
Do you have any accounts in joint names? Is so make it a priority to try and safeguard them

JohannSebastianBach · 22/05/2022 22:40

Of course not. You know you aren't.
Stay strong and don't fall for the inevitable emotional blackmail.

Stop making excuses for him.

ThreeLittleDots · 22/05/2022 22:40

No and good for you. Keep it up.

I would tell your parents at least what has been going on. If someone is up to it I'd want them to check he is not in the house and change all of the locks for your return.

Do you think he would damage the house / your belongings whilst you're gone?

23Elfie · 22/05/2022 22:41

Oh my goodness, this sounds like it has been such a long time coming, well done you for standing up to him and telling him to leave. He's taken the piss for years and although he had a tough time when he was young that's no excuse for the way he treats you and his children.
Go and enjoy your holiday, I'm sure a week of not dealing with horrible moods and massive laziness will help you to see you've absolutely made the right decision. Only other thing I would possibly do is book a locksmith to change the locks once you're back so you have complete control of the house again xx

ThreeLittleDots · 22/05/2022 22:42

Whilst he is out you need to gather any evidence of his income etc, for child maintenance application

newnamethanks · 22/05/2022 22:43

Stick a couple of shirts, socks, etc in a suitcase and sling it out of the window onto the front path. Never let him in again, he's a contemptible creature. Bloody, bloody men. So many of them are like this; so many damaged mothers and children as a result. I'd better shut up now. Good luck.

Motheranddaughtertotwo · 22/05/2022 22:43

He’s been abusing you for years. Good on you, you’ve done so well already and I’m sure will be much happier without him. YANBU.

YarnHoarder · 22/05/2022 22:43

Congratulations, you've done the right thing for you and your children. Don't look back, don't beat yourself up for not doing it last week or last year etc. You've made the rights steps in the right direction. Get a locksmith booked for an hour after you expect to return and get the locks changed when you return. Make sure you change any correspondence with the school, GP, council tax, banks etc and allow him to update his own info when he never gets round to it.

You've done the right thing, you know you can do this and no doubt everyone will be much happier on holiday and once you return home. Hope you all have a lot of fun on holiday.

Eddiesferret · 22/05/2022 22:43

No you can't change the locks !

Just as women in this situation are not powerless neither is your DH !

The starting point on separation is 50/50. He has EQUAL RIGHTS to everything.

Whilst I usually advise DIY to save lawyers fees ... now I would get myself a SHL (shit hot lawyer ) !!

negomi90 · 22/05/2022 22:46

You've absolutely done the right thing.
But you need a lawyer asap (find one while you are away). If you are married and have been for a while, he may have a claim on the house. The finances may be more complicated than you think.

RagzRebooted · 22/05/2022 22:46

Not at all unreasonable, well done you! It will be hard, but you won't regret it.

AnyFucker · 22/05/2022 22:46

Start talking. To your family and your friends. Don’t be surprised if they are more clued up than you think about your abusive relationship. Don’t think they cannot see the effect it has been having on your children, even if you have managed to convince yourself you have presented a wonderful front. You haven’t.

It stops. Now. Your children do not deserve this life, and neither do you. First thing tomorrow contact a family solicitor and start taking the legal steps to get this man out of your life. It’s not too late to show your children that no one should live like this.

ThreeLittleDots · 22/05/2022 22:46

No you can't change the locks

Of course she can, it's her house and not a marital asset

HollowTalk · 22/05/2022 22:47

I'm really glad you're having that week on your own away from him. It must be a real relief for you. Don't start to panic about people saying he'll get 50-50 and so on. He's capable of working. There's no way he'll be wanting the children 50-50 or that they would want to be with him. It's your house and I cannot imagine a judge telling you that you have to sell it so that this abusive man can have half the money.

I do think you will end up having to pay for him in terms of putting a deposit down on a flat but please don't even think about being his guarantor. He has absolute contempt for you and he wouldn't pay his rent, so you would have to pay it for him. Just be very very careful about that.

Cherrysoup · 22/05/2022 22:50

Stick to your guns, don’t let him worm his way back. Your life and that of your children will be far better.

Allthegoodusernamesareused · 22/05/2022 22:55

If the house is solely in your name, you absolutely can kick him out, and you should. I did it, and I never looked back.

You need to start talking to those closest to you, start with your Mum, about how things have really been all these years, she's going to want to support you but she can't really unless she knows what is going on.

Good luck 💐

StageRage · 22/05/2022 22:55

YANBU in getting rid of him. He is a terrible partner and father, and who wants to live in misery?

However. 15 years ago you became a legal partnership and your assets became the property of the partnership.

See a lawyer FAST. Because he will seek advice and discover that the starting point is 50/50 , no matter whose name is on the deeds.

With 4 kids, including SEN and a very young one, you should be able to argue for much better than 50/50….but you need a lawyer ASAP.

theonlygirl · 22/05/2022 22:56

No you're not unreasonable. What you describe is abuse. Stay strong and remove this person from your life. You can do it, because you're already doing it. Imagine how much easier life will be without this dead weight pulling you down. Do it for yourself and your children. Life is short, be happy. ❤

BrunoMadrigal · 22/05/2022 22:58

It’s not often I read a post on MN where I end up feeling so proud of the OP…this is one of those moments.

Well done on putting you and your children first! You are amazing!!

Eightiesfan · 22/05/2022 22:58

ThreeLittleDots · 22/05/2022 22:46

No you can't change the locks

Of course she can, it's her house and not a marital asset

The house might be in her name, but they are married so he will be entitled to half. If OP can prove he had not financially contributed to the house she might get a higher percentage but it will not be easy.

Op you need to see a solicitor for advice.

LeavesOnTrees · 22/05/2022 23:01

Don't worry about what anybody will think. I'm sure lots of friends / family know you've been covering for him and doing everything anyway.

Your children deserve to live in a happy home. Keep going and don't let him back in.

StageRage · 22/05/2022 23:04

The house is a ‘non matrimonial asset’ in that it was bought before the marriage, but ‘non matrimonial assets’ can be part of a divorce settlement if they have been used within the marriage (it has been his home for 15 years!) or if dividing up the other assets does not give both parties enough to live on / have another home.

Hence: lawyer up!